dave mcbride Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) Some interesting quotes from anonymous GMs in here: https://wapo.st/3TXKgyG (I made this a gift article and it should be accessible to all). 'Brandon Aiyuk/Deebo Samuel (49ers) “One of them won’t be back there,” the GM said. The exec said: “Personally, I’d be shocked if they don’t move one. When you study the model of how they roster build and structure their contracts, and with the quarterback being up in a year, I don’t think they will pay them both. … And if Deebo was the guy to go, I think he’d already be gone.” Another GM opined that he believes Aiyuk would have already secured his new contract if it was going to come from San Francisco. “I think Aiyuk is the one to watch,” that GM, also sniffing around on wide receivers, said. Another exec said: “I don’t think they’re going to get everything they’ll want for him [Aiyuk] because of what you’re going to have to pay him. But they have to listen.”' Edited April 15 by dave mcbride 3 4 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Interesting article especially about teams not wanting to give WR’s long term deals. That would suggest Metcalf would be more desirable than Aiyuk and it might be cheaper draft capital wise to get them than people think. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Interesting article especially about teams not wanting to give WR’s long term deals. That would suggest Metcalf would be more desirable than Aiyuk and it might be cheaper draft capital wise to get them than people think. Eagles just gave DeVonta Smith 3 for 75 mil & if the Bills got DK Metcalf, I'd do laps around my house. One of my favorite players. Believe he'd be a complete monster with Allen Edited April 15 by Warriorspikes51 1 8 2 Quote
Logic Posted April 15 Posted April 15 I tend to think that with as expensive as WR contracts are getting, and as many good ones as are coming out in the draft each year, and as quickly as many of them seem to be able to hit the ground running... WR may become the next position where it's smart to "turn and burn". Draft a guy, pay him on a rookie wage scale for four years (or five if he's a first rounder), then trade him or let him walk and get a compensatory pick. Wash, rinse, repeat. Only the elite guys will merit those mega-extensions. If the supply of good, draftable WRs continues to go up, and the cost to re-sign them continues to climb, the wave will crest, and they'll eventually start going the way of RBs. Maybe. Just maybe. 6 17 1 Quote
K D Posted April 15 Posted April 15 I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position. 3 19 Quote
Robert Paulson Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Logic said: I tend to think that with as expensive as WR contracts are getting, and as many good ones as are coming out in the draft each year, and as quickly as many of them seem to be able to hit the ground running... WR may become the next position where it's smart to "turn and burn". Draft a guy, pay him on a rookie wage scale for four years (or five if he's a first rounder), then trade him or let him walk and get a compensatory pick. Wash, rinse, repeat. Only the elite guys will merit those mega-extensions. If the supply of good, draftable WRs continues to go up, and the cost to re-sign them continues to climb, the wave will crest, and they'll eventually start going the way of RBs. Maybe. Just maybe. This is the way 3 Quote
BigBadBills Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position. Bingo Quote
Beck Water Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Eagles just gave DeVonta Smith 3 for 75 mil & if the Bills got DK Metcalf, I'd do laps around my house. One of my favorite players. Believe he'd be a complete monster with Allen There were a number of folks here - IIRC I think @BADOLBILZ was one - who were salty over trading up to Cody Ford in the 2nd when DK Metcalf was still on the board. Though, if we're playing 2019 Draft "do over", I call dibs on AJ Brown. Edited April 15 by Beck Water 3 1 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position. They didn't dump Diggs because of the contract. They dumped him IN SPITE of the contract. His attitude and declining play were the top 2 factors. I don't think they want another big contract at ANY position. But I suspect that's a fluid situation depending on the player. I don't think guys like Aiyuk and Higgins would be appealing enough to pay $30M aav. They have never been the primary option for the good iterations of their current teams but will command contracts that might look like 80%-90% of Justin Jefferson value. 9 5 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Beck Water said: There were a number of folks here - IIRC I think @BADOLBILZ was one - who were salty over trading up to Cody Ford in the 2nd when DK Metcalf was still on the board. Though, if we're playing 2019 Draft "do over", I call dibs on AJ Brown. Yeah AJ Brown has separated from Metcalf but DK is still really good. If they could get him for a second round pick...........that would be a great get, IMO. If the draft were to go the way the mock community expects then the part of the WR group that drops way off by 60 is definitely the boundary WR. DK is a legit boundary option and he's been a better player in the playoffs than the regular season. Likely because of his physicality. Good fit for late season games in Highmark stadium, IMO. Edited April 15 by BADOLBILZ 4 Quote
dave mcbride Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: They didn't dump Diggs because of the contract. They dumped him IN SPITE of the contract. His attitude and declining play were the top 2 factors. I don't think they want another big contract at ANY position. But I suspect that's a fluid situation depending on the player. I don't think guys like Aiyuk and Higgins would be appealing enough to pay $30M aav. They have never been the primary option for the good iterations of their current teams but will command contracts that might look like 80%-90% of Justin Jefferson value. It appears that despite the numbers being thrown around, no WR is getting close to $30 million per, at least yet. From Florio, who is good on this sort of issue (althoug certainly not every type of issue): https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/top-receiver-deals-definitely-arent-what-they-seem-to-be. Quote
H2o Posted April 15 Posted April 15 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Get JJ, not Aiyuk Only if you're good with paying him more than Tyreek Hill annually, as well as having to give up multiple high end draft picks. Great player, but pass. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted April 15 Posted April 15 There are a couple of names on that list I could get behind … but until the Bills free up some cap space I’ll keep the powder dry … Quote
Aussie Joe Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position. To be going into this season paying their most expensive receiver $8m is crazy … if this is the plan… they better hit on two big names in the draft … Picking a guy at 28 and the fourth round isn’t good enough in my view 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: To be going into this season paying their most expensive receiver $8m is crazy … if this is the plan… they better hit on two big names in the draft … Picking a guy at 28 and the fourth round isn’t good enough in my view It depends. What does Joe Brady have to say about his scheme? And it's time for Josh to make his WR's better. Buy who knows what Beane is thinking. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: It depends. What does Joe Brady have to say about his scheme? And it's time for Josh to make his WR's better. Buy who knows what Beane is thinking. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken you know what 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken you know what Wow. I like Kincaid, Samuel and Shakir and don't feel they are ****. I also think a 1st or 2nd round WR won't be **** either. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Wow. I like Kincaid, Samuel and Shakir and don't feel they are ****. I also think a 1st or 2nd round WR won't be **** either. It won’t be enough 2 1 Quote
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