NFL draft rumors 2024

[BarleyNY]

5 minutes ago, DJB said:

Did this information come out before or after Daniel Jeremiah mocked Odunze to the Jets saying they have a lot of interest in him?

 

Because colour me skeptical that this website had it first 

Not coincidentally, among the players that could reasonably make it to 10 Odunze is the player that would have the highest trade value. Basically they’re telling the NFL to come get him if he makes it to 10. 
 

For the Bills it means they have to get to 9 if they want him - if he makes it there. 

Edited April 25 by BarleyNY

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, DJB said:

Did this information come out before or after Daniel Jeremiah mocked Odunze to the Jets saying they have a lot of interest in him?

 

Because colour me skeptical that this website had it first 

To echo Happy, Campbell is good and plugged in.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Charlie Campbell has been reporting for a while now that the Jets pick is down to Bowers or Odunze.

 

I really don't understand the amount of pushback I get on his reports. Is it just because Walter Football as a website kind of sucks? Because I get that, but his track record is his track record.

Walter Football has had a bad rep for like 10 years. Some of their stuff back in the day was laughable.
 

Charlie Campbell has had some very accurate mock drafts recently but it’s hard to forget the old, bad stuff.

 

They are like the Bo Nix of NFL media.

[SCBills]

I've watched Bowers quite a bit living in Atlanta.  He's really good, but more in the Kittle sense (IMO).

 

Where we drafted Kincaid to be a Kelce type.. route running, hands and spatial awareness in zone coverage.  Bowers doesn't strike me as a "feel" Tight End, more of a bruiser/athlete who has speed and power. 

[mannc]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-thursday.php

 

 

 

 

Jets would be very foolish not to go OT with that first pick…no way their tackles hold up for 17 games, much less beyond 2024.  
 

And the Alabama CBs are hugely overrated.  Would not be surprised if they both fall out of round 1.

[nedboy7]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Charlie Campbell has been reporting for a while now that the Jets pick is down to Bowers or Odunze.

 

I really don't understand the amount of pushback I get on his reports. Is it just because Walter Football as a website kind of sucks? Because I get that, but his track record is his track record.

While Walter football does look like it was built in 1998 I find his info very reliable. 

[HappyDays]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Walter Football has had a bad rep for like 10 years. Some of their stuff back in the day was laughable.
 

Charlie Campbell has had some very accurate mock drafts recently but it’s hard to forget the old, bad stuff.

 

They are like the Bo Nix of NFL media.

 

It isn't just his mocks. His hot press rumors consistently come true. Off the top of my head one example I can think of is Jermaine Johnson. He was commonly mocked in the top 10 by most people, at worst top 15. The day before or of the draft Charlie Campbell reported Johnson was likely to slide to the bottom of the 1st round because of major character concerns. Nobody else was reporting this. Lo and behold he slid to #26.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It isn't just his mocks. His hot press rumors consistently come true. Off the top of my head one example I can think of is Jermaine Johnson. He was commonly mocked in the top 10 by most people, at worst top 15. The day before or of the draft Charlie Campbell reported Johnson was likely to slide to the bottom of the 1st round because of major character concerns. Nobody else was reporting this. Lo and behold he slid to #26.

Consistently? You mean like when they reported Sam Darnold/Lamar Jackson were gonna stay in school and not declare?

 

https://walterfootball.com/NFL-Teams-Hear-Darnold-and-Jackson-Inclined-to-Return-to-School_NHP.php

 

Spoilers… they both were drafted in the first round after that “rumor.”

 

GTFOH with that “consistently come true” bs

[Gregg]

Another mock draft. Steve Serby. NY Post. 

 

https://nypost.com/2024/04/25/sports/nfl-mock-draft-4-0-vikings-take-j-j-mccarthy-in-stunning-trade/

[DJB]

16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It isn't just his mocks. His hot press rumors consistently come true. Off the top of my head one example I can think of is Jermaine Johnson. He was commonly mocked in the top 10 by most people, at worst top 15. The day before or of the draft Charlie Campbell reported Johnson was likely to slide to the bottom of the 1st round because of major character concerns. Nobody else was reporting this. Lo and behold he slid to #26.

Many of their rumors are common sense type information. 
 

Were they right about Johnson? Maybe or maybe they threw something against the wall and got lucky.

 

These  guys aren’t anything more than a couple of dudes hanging in moms

basement “reporting” and piggybacking more reputable sources 

[LLCoolCy]

If the Bills top 5 WRs are gone this could be the trade back partner. Moving 28 to 36 and getting a 3rd? seems sensible business. 

 

[djp14150]

My two cents…..

 

the problem in trying to move up high is test you are going to have to match QB pricing for picks becsuse other teams are looking to trade up for QB.  There could be 6 QBs drafted in top half of the draft

 

it seems like the top 3 are also in the top of the draft then others may be in  25-40 range.

 

buffalo could trade up a few spots to get the player they want. I don’t see the fantasy trade up occuring.

 

 

 

[boyst]

i just talked to a trusted source in the league. they're predicting 32 picks tonight. i was shocked to hear him say this but i trust him.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, LLCoolCy said:

If the Bills top 5 WRs are gone this could be the trade back partner. Moving 28 to 36 and getting a 3rd? seems sensible business. 

 

 

This has been my best case scenario all along. Trade back with Washington since they desperately need a LT, in exchange get one of their 3rds. Then double dip at WR in the 2nd, trading up from #60 if necessary to make sure we get our guy.

 

Trade could look something like this to match the draft value chart:

 

Washington receives:

#28

#128

#144

 

Buffalo receives:

#36

#67

 

Come away with something like Legette & Franklin, and still have a high 3rd round pick plus a full complement of day three picks to fill out the roster.

[dave mcbride]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This has been my best case scenario all along. Trade back with Washington since they desperately need a LT, in exchange get one of their 3rds. Then double dip at WR in the 2nd, trading up from #60 if necessary to make sure we get our guy.

 

Trade could look something like this to match the draft value chart:

 

Washington receives:

#28

#128

#144

 

Buffalo receives:

#36

#67

 

Come away with something like Legette & Franklin, and still have a high 3rd round pick plus a full complement of day three picks to fill out the roster.

Good plan. If the Commanders are desperate, though, I'd drive a little harder of a bargain: I'd offer 28, 144, and 160 for 36 and 67. Moving up 8 is substantial. I'd then trade 67 and, say, 128 to move to the 50s and get the second receiver that we should be drafting. We can take Cole Bishop or D-line at 60 (depending on our plan for Justin Simmons); CB/LB at 133 and 163 (CB depth scares me; sequence depends on who is available); and developmental o-line/d-line in the sixth and 7th. 

Edited April 25 by dave mcbride

[HappyDays]

5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Good plan. If the Commanders are desperate, though, I'd drive a little harder of a bargain: I'd offer 28, 144, and 160 for 36 and 67. Moving up 8 is substantial. I'd then trade 67 and, say, 128 to move to the 50s and get the second receiver that we should be drafting. We can take Cole Bishop or D-line at 60 (depending on our plan for Justin Simmons); CB/LB at 133 and 163 (CB depth scares me; sequence depends on who is available); and developmental o-line/d-line in the sixth and 7th. 

 

My thought process all along has been using the 2025 2nd we got in the Diggs trade to move up into the low 50s. I think that would be enough to get it done. The idea being that you use the pick we got for a WR to draft his replacement. There are like 7 WRs that are worth being picked between 28 and 55. I want two of them.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

My thought process all along has been using the 2025 2nd we got in the Diggs trade to move up into the low 50s. I think that would be enough to get it done. The idea being that you use the pick we got for a WR to draft his replacement. There are like 7 WRs that are worth being picked between 28 and 55. I want two of them.

I'd save that 2025 second if possible because next year looks to be a GREAT edge draft, and they'll need one -- and presumably ammo to move up given that they have Josh freaking Allen as their qb. But I'm not averse to trading it either for the right deal.

Edited April 25 by dave mcbride

[MikePJ76]

I am fully down with trading back with washington if they have not moved up by 28.  I bet they only give 40 and 78 though and buffalo would give 28 and 144

 

this allows them to take two wr, an O an D lineman, Corner, Running back and a kicker by the end of the weekend.

 

if they blow out the whole draft for 1 wr I will see it as a major bummer.  If they use next years 1 I will be sick.  That is insanity for a wr.

4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'd save that 2025 second if possible because next year looks to be a GREAT edge draft, and they'll need one -- and presumably ammo to move up given that they have Josh freaking Allen as their qb. But I'm not averse to trading it either for the right deal.

amen to that.

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

My thought process all along has been using the 2025 2nd we got in the Diggs trade to move up into the low 50s. I think that would be enough to get it done. The idea being that you use the pick we got for a WR to draft his replacement. There are like 7 WRs that are worth being picked between 28 and 55. I want two of them.

The only thing that makes me want to keep that 2025 2nd is that it would make for excellent insurance should we need to make a move at the trade deadline to cover for injuries for a key player. Beane has made moves the last 2 years. 

 

Would also be a great asset to keep in case the rookie WR isn't quite ready and we need more help there in season. Having 2 2nd rounders is money in the bank IMO.

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I am fully down with trading back with washington if they have not moved up by 28.  I bet they only give 40 and 78 though and buffalo would give 28 and 144

 

this allows them to take two wr, an O an D lineman, Corner, Running back and a kicker by the end of the weekend.

 

if they blow out the whole draft for 1 wr I will see it as a major bummer.  If they use next years 1 I will be sick.  That is insanity for a wr.

amen to that.

To be fair, if Rome Udonze gets past 10 (unlikely, in my view, but we'll see), I would have no problem using our 2025 first to move up and get him. He's going to be great, I think.