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9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

This is one of the reasons why i feel like Beane will make a bigger move if he can - the not moving up much for Addison (they may have had Kincaid rated higher though) and the Elam pick - being patient cost us McDuffie and let KC jump us. I'm just hoping we have someone who is willing to move

They are really high on Van Dermark, I'm not sure we will pay 2 tackles either as it is Brown's last year on his rookie contract...That is the only reason I am going there. There luterally is no one else on this team we can toss in. Elam is about as worthless as Zack Wilson

 

 


Spencer Brown was a whipping boy until last year. Most of us wanted an upgrade at RT.  It’s possible Joe Schoen would have a value of a 3rd round pick on Spencer Brown

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Jeremiah has Worthy BTJr and Mitchell all making it to 28.

 

Hard to imagine no WRs get picked from 11 to 27 but this would be a dream scenario. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Estro said:

I predict Franklin is on the board at #60. I don't think he's going as high as a lot of people think. 


The Bills brought him in for #60 — and the billboard message to the league that they’d deal down to get him in the 2nd. Soooo, now Beane gets a call from Arizona about #35, and by the end of that conversation green Gannon is giving the Beanester #4, and Nabers is sizing up his draft night Bills cap.

25 minutes ago, Process said:

Jeremiah has Worthy BTJr and Mitchell all making it to 28.

 

Hard to imagine no WRs get picked from 11 to 27 but this would be a dream scenario. 

 

 


Now we’re getting somewhere. Wait til one or two of the Big 3 make it to #10 🤯

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


Spencer Brown was a whipping boy until last year. Most of us wanted an upgrade at RT.  It’s possible Joe Schoen would have a value of a 3rd round pick on Spencer Brown

Offensive line is the hardest position to develop in the modern NFL.. there is a complete lack of NFL quality lineman coming from college to the pros compared to 20 years ago 

 

The schemes colleges run make it harder to transition to the NFL game... It generally takes two three four years for a non Blue Chip lineman to get it

 

Spencer also lost a year of football in college due to covid... And battled through injuries in the pros early in his career which hampered development 

 

Physically he has every single thing you want... Including a strong work ethic 

 

He might not peek till he is 29 or 30... But he looks like a guy who could be a future All pro due to his traits which is why you definitely don't give up on him 

 

he can definitely be Josh's bookend right tackle because he has a mean streak and protects Josh.. and he's a phenomenal athlete who can move the pocket with Josh

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Offensive line is the hardest position to develop in the modern NFL.. there is a complete lack of NFL quality lineman coming from college to the pros compared to 20 years ago 

 

The schemes colleges run make it harder to transition to the NFL game... It generally takes two three four years for a non Blue Chip lineman to get it

 

Spencer also lost a year of football in college due to covid... And battled through injuries in the pros early in his career which hampered development 

 

Physically he has every single thing you want... Including a strong work ethic 

 

He might not peek till he is 29 or 30... But he looks like a guy who could be a future All pro due to his traits which is why you definitely don't give up on him 

 

he can definitely be Josh's bookend right tackle because he has a mean streak and protects Josh.. and he's a phenomenal athlete who can move the pocket with Josh

Complete lack of judgment in those who want to add Brown to the mix in order to get the WR they covet. Who is going to plausibly replace him in the lineup? The Bills invested the time to develop him, and now they should what, put La'el Collins in there to replace him? Van Demark did not look good on the right side in the snaps he took at RT. 

 

I've yet to hear an intelligent reply to these concerns from the enthusiasts for pay any price to get a top 3 WR.

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2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

This is one of the reasons why i feel like Beane will make a bigger move if he can - the not moving up much for Addison (they may have had Kincaid rated higher though) and the Elam pick - being patient cost us McDuffie and let KC jump us. I'm just hoping we have someone who is willing to move


Slightly off topic, but we were never going to take McDuffie regardless. He’s a slot corner, not a boundary corner, and we already had an excellent one in Taron Johnson.

 

In fact the 2 all pros this season for the slot corner position were Taron Johnson and McDuffie.

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52 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Complete lack of judgment in those who want to add Brown to the mix in order to get the WR they covet. Who is going to plausibly replace him in the lineup? The Bills invested the time to develop him, and now they should what, put La'el Collins in there to replace him? Van Demark did not look good on the right side in the snaps he took at RT. 

 

I've yet to hear an intelligent reply to these concerns from the enthusiasts for pay any price to get a top 3 WR.

Agreed... Van demark is another very good athlete who was very raw 

 

He needed two or three years of development at least... Which a lot of NFL teams don't have the patience for... The bills on the other hand have shown they will give players two plus years of development 

 

But as you said I think he is built for the left side not the right... And putting in Collins for Brown or trading brown would be 3 years of hard development gone to waste 

 

When he's finally turning a corner 

 

He has height , length , he has a boxer straight to engage and reroute pass rushers... He is a Mauler in the run game... He could run block zone or man schemes and he is athletic enough to learn pass protection with reps

 

I know it's hard developing linemen over two or three or four years... But he could potentially be a perennial pro bowler and Future all pro with his traits

 

If anything you resign him now to a four or five-year deal way cheaper before he really ascends... Which I will predict is this year

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6 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

This is one of the reasons why i feel like Beane will make a bigger move if he can - the not moving up much for Addison (they may have had Kincaid rated higher though) and the Elam pick - being patient cost us McDuffie and let KC jump us. I'm just hoping we have someone who is willing to move

They are really high on Van Dermark, I'm not sure we will pay 2 tackles either as it is Brown's last year on his rookie contract...That is the only reason I am going there. There luterally is no one else on this team we can toss in. Elam is about as worthless as Zack Wilson

 

 

I know they like what they have seen of him on the left side, not so much the right. Where that takes this, nobody knows😂😆🤣

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5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Offensive line is the hardest position to develop in the modern NFL.. there is a complete lack of NFL quality lineman coming from college to the pros compared to 20 years ago 

 

The schemes colleges run make it harder to transition to the NFL game... It generally takes two three four years for a non Blue Chip lineman to get it

 

Spencer also lost a year of football in college due to covid... And battled through injuries in the pros early in his career which hampered development 

 

Physically he has every single thing you want... Including a strong work ethic 

 

He might not peek till he is 29 or 30... But he looks like a guy who could be a future All pro due to his traits which is why you definitely don't give up on him 

 

he can definitely be Josh's bookend right tackle because he has a mean streak and protects Josh.. and he's a phenomenal athlete who can move the pocket with Josh

Which is why I personally extend him now before that contract really explodes. I always knew his back is what hampered him early and if that is an issue of the past (hopefully the Bills medical have a good beat on this) this guy is still nowhere near his ceiling. At his height he could still fill out and easily play over 350 without losing any athleticism. Pay two tackles please!

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6 hours ago, Process said:

Jeremiah has Worthy BTJr and Mitchell all making it to 28.

 

Hard to imagine no WRs get picked from 11 to 27 but this would be a dream scenario. 

 

 

 

Not that hard for me to imagine to be honest. My view has always been the maximum that go before the Bills is the top 3 and 1 other. 

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8 hours ago, Estro said:

I predict Franklin is on the board at #60. I don't think he's going as high as a lot of people think. 

If Worthy is being mentioned as a 1st rounder, I think Franklin is right behind him so I still think 60 is no way. The draft is crazy but I think he goes top 40, 45ish at the lowest. See all you crazies tonight😆

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

He names roughly a third of the league. Thanks, Pete. 

more outstanding reporting....the same people who say the Bills may trade up, trade back or just stay at 28

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2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

He names roughly a third of the league. Thanks, Pete. 


Daniel Jeremiah also said Denver is more likely a trade back candidate as well 

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8 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Complete lack of judgment in those who want to add Brown to the mix in order to get the WR they covet. Who is going to plausibly replace him in the lineup? The Bills invested the time to develop him, and now they should what, put La'el Collins in there to replace him? Van Demark did not look good on the right side in the snaps he took at RT. 

 

I've yet to hear an intelligent reply to these concerns from the enthusiasts for pay any price to get a top 3 WR.

Spencer Brown is going nowhere.  Why would the Bills want to create a gaping hole at one of the most important and difficult positions to fill?  They aren’t nearly that foolish.

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Count me in with the group that would be extremely annoyed to see Spencer Brown traded in any fashion.  

 

Downside:  

 

Contract Year and Back Injury History

 

Upside:

 

Was an average to above average RT last year, who has unlimited potential

 

I'm certainly ok with taking a wait and see approach with him this season, even if it ends up costing us a few million more per year, but unless someone is blowing us away with an offer, you don't trade a good young RT with tons of untapped potential. 

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https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-thursday.php

 

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For months, I have had the Jets taking Georgia tight end Brock Bowers with the 10th-overall pick, and that outcome sounds like is a real possibility for the Jets. However in speaking to sources with the team, it sounds like drafting Bowers at No. 10 is actually Plan C. Jets general manager Joe Douglas badly wants to trade down in the first round. Douglas wants to acquire a second-round pick, and if the Jets trade down, it sounds like their top target would be LSU wide receiver Brian Thomas Jr. The Jets want to get a second-round pick to add depth to their offensive line, or possibly take another wide receiver.

 

If the Jets are forced to stick at pick No. 10, they would prefer to draft Washington wide receiver Rome Odunze, who the decision-makers like more than Bowers. The Jets feel they need another wideout because Mike Williams is coming off an injury, plus they want another playmaker to attack defenses. They feel they would be in serious trouble if Garrett Wilson were to go down with an injury, and in a critical year, they would prefer to not be lacking depth at a critical position. That being said, the Jets do not expect Odunze to make it to the 10th pick of the 2024 NFL Draft.

 

If Odunze is off the board and the Jets are unable to trade down, Bowers is likely to be their pick. It sounds like the Jets are comfortable with his medical, and they feel he could be an excellent weapon for Aaron Rodgers. They like the tight ends they have, so they do not feel they are desperate at the position. Hence, the Jets prefer Odunze if both would be available. It will be fascinating to see if the Jets can pull off Plan A with a trade down, manage to exeucte Plan B by selecting Odunze, or are forced into Plan C and take Bowers.

 

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Some team sources think Alabama edge rusher Dallas Turner could slide some in the first round of the 2024 NFL Draft. Some franchises had some medical issues come back on Turner, which could lead him to going lower than the consensus has been during the pre-draft process.

 

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Sources said the New York Giants are unlikely to take a quarterback in the early rounds 2024 NFL Draft. That would be different if the Giants were in position to land one of the top three: Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Drake Maye. All three are expected to be gone after the opening three selections. It sounds like the Giants do not value J.J. McCarthy that highly. Michael Penix Jr. would be a potential pick if he got to the Giants’ second-round pick, but Penix is not expected to make it close to pick No. 47 on Friday night. Sources said the Giants are very unlikely to take other possible second-day quarterbacks like Bo Nix or Spencer Rattler. It sounds like the Giants plan to fill other positions over taking Nix or Rattler on Day 2 of the 2024 NFL Draft.

 

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Did this information come out before or after Daniel Jeremiah mocked Odunze to the Jets saying they have a lot of interest in him?

 

Because colour me skeptical 

 

Charlie Campbell has been reporting for a while now that the Jets pick is down to Bowers or Odunze.

 

I really don't understand the amount of pushback I get on his reports. Is it just because Walter Football as a website kind of sucks? Because I get that, but his track record is his track record.

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