DJB Posted April 23 Posted April 23 3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze. He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him. This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here. There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right? https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft 12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze. Florio is very very well known to make up rumours and stir the pot. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 22 hours ago, QLBillsFan said: Mark Andrews TE Ravens and a couple other lesser players currently in the NFL. I don’t mean to downplay the disease and a player certainly can be impacted during a game. But they and the staff will have a very manageable plan. i think the bigger concern, and it could be smoke screen, is that he sucks at taking care of it. doesnt check it enough, diet concerns, and that they believe its directly caused him to be difficult to work with at times...... ^^^thats the rumor anyway. the 'difficult to work with' thing was kinda vague though..... did they mean, 1)he gets HANGRY'ish and becomes a jerk bc his sugars low and he doesnt know. orrrrrrrrr 2) the team tried to get him to eat better/check more frequently, and hes stubborn and is just going to do it his way/unapproachable about the topic if that rumor is true, then i get the concern. i had a type1 diabetic roommate at 18, dude drank booze and regular Redbull, and ate BS constantly..... i had to call 911 for him several times bc he was just dumb about it. hed mix up his medications. there was insulin, and something else hed only take in the morning, was supposed to help keep him in a tighter range in between insulin shots. dude woke up one day, hadnt ate, meant to take the 'stabilizer' (not a doctor i might be a lil off), but hit himself within insulin pen, when he was already low sugar..... not only was he already low, but it was more insulin then hed normally take even after eating.... legit thought dude was gunna die. turned 'dead body white', unconscious, seizing, while im trying to squirt whip cream down his face hole. dude didnt learn a thing, was drinking Yager bombs with classic Redbull 48hrs later at the bar lol anyway, if hes a younger dude who wants to try and live like someone without diabetes, at minimum hes gunna be less than optimal performance, might have foot problems more than most wr's, mentally unsharp in film room/practice. obv we dunno the extent, if any, but teams are gunna take a deep dive into it and very easily could push him down. this 2nd/3rd tier WR group is so tightly clustered already, wouldnt shock me if he was last to go in those tiers 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Brandon said: I wouldn't be surprised if Worthy goes as early as to the Dolphins at 21. Even if he goes in the 2nd, the Bills would have to blow their draft pick load to get Odunze and wouldn't have much left in this draft or the next to use to acquire another 2nd. While its possible they do take him at 21...I would say that if the Dolphins draft Worthy at 21 they should immediately fire the GM before their next pick. Lets Recap: Dolphins have one of the best, and some would say arguably the best, WR duos in the NFL in Hill and Waddle. Dolphins are the fastest team in the NFL both at WR and RB and fastest offense overall. Elite speed at both positions. Despite all of this, in the last years the Dolphins have failed to win their division, even with a 4 game lead late in the season, have failed to win a playoff game, and have only won 2 games against teams with a .500 or better record in 2 seasons. So why is that? Despite all that speed, most in the NFL, the offense is easily defensible by simply disrupting Tua's early reads. There is no way adding Worthy makes any difference to this teams fortunes. They are not going to be able to get teams off the field on defense, and on offense, with Worthy as a 3rd WR he won't help Tua when his OL stinks and teams keep disrupting Tua and taking away all the speed advantage they have. Now add in: Dolphins OL is a mess Dolphins lost everyone who matters in their front 7 and DL is a bigger mess than OL Like I would literally absolutely fire the GM the moment Worthy's name was announced...not a knock on Worthy at all, its about Miami needs and team makeup where. Worthy is a god awful pick for them to use their first round pick on as he will be essentially a WR3 on their team that has massive holes in the trenches. There will be some really good OL guys on the board at 21. I PRAY this happens, I will laugh so hard and I promise you it would be the end of this coaching staff and front office by next offseason. Edited April 23 by Alphadawg7 2 1 Quote
Brandon Posted April 23 Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: While its possible they do take him at 21...I would say that if the Dolphins draft Worthy at 21 they should immediately fire the GM before their next pick. Lets Recap: Dolphins have one of the best, and some would say arguably the best, WR duos in the NFL in Hill and Waddle. Dolphins are the fastest team in the NFL both at WR and RB and fastest offense overall. Elite speed at both positions. Despite all of this, in the last years the Dolphins have failed to win their division, even with a 4 game lead late in the season, have failed to win a playoff game, and have only won 2 games against teams with a .500 or better record in 2 seasons. So why is that? Despite all that speed, most in the NFL, the offense is easily defensible by simply disrupting Tua's early reads. There is no way adding Worthy makes any difference to this teams fortunes. They are not going to be able to get teams off the field on defense, and on offense, with Worthy as a 3rd WR he won't help Tua when his OL stinks and teams keep disrupting Tua and taking away all the speed advantage they have. Now add in: Dolphins OL is a mess Dolphins lost everyone who matters in their front 7 and DL is a bigger mess than OL Like I would literally absolutely fire the GM the moment Worthy's name was announced...not a knock on Worthy at all, its about Miami needs and team makeup where. Worthy is a god awful pick for them to use their first round pick on as he will be essentially a WR3 on their team that has massive holes in the trenches. There will be some really good OL guys on the board at 21. I PRAY this happens, I will laugh so hard and I promise you it would be the end of this coaching staff and front office by next offseason. I'm not saying it's particularly smart, but they do seem to be showing a good deal of interest in him. Quote
LLCoolCy Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Charles Davis rumors 2 days out. biggest nugget is it may be Maye or bust for Minnesota to trade up and settling with Nix. On the WR for us. ”Unless Georgia’s Ladd McConkey or South Carolina’s Xavier Legette crashes the party, I think the first-round wide receiver group will be capped at five minimum and six maximum. That consists of Ohio State’s Marvin Harrison Jr., LSU’s Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr., Washington’s Rome Odunze and Texas’ Xavier Worthy. A player teetering is Texas’ Adonai Mitchell, who has some more deeply split opinions than the other five.” 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 59 minutes ago, Brandon said: I'm not saying it's particularly smart, but they do seem to be showing a good deal of interest in him. Oh yeah, my comment wasn't at all directed like at you personally, I get its because they are showing interest in him, others think he is possibility there. My post was 100% really about how stupid the Dolphins front office would be if they do it. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 50 minutes ago, LLCoolCy said: Charles Davis rumors 2 days out. biggest nugget is it may be Maye or bust for Minnesota to trade up and settling with Nix. On the WR for us. ”Unless Georgia’s Ladd McConkey or South Carolina’s Xavier Legette crashes the party, I think the first-round wide receiver group will be capped at five minimum and six maximum. That consists of Ohio State’s Marvin Harrison Jr., LSU’s Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr., Washington’s Rome Odunze and Texas’ Xavier Worthy. A player teetering is Texas’ Adonai Mitchell, who has some more deeply split opinions than the other five.” I think he’s right. Less WRs and I think all 6 QBs go in the first and 8 OTs and possibly 3 IOL Legit half the first round might be QB and OL Edited April 23 by gonzo1105 Quote
Low Positive Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Oh yeah, my comment wasn't at all directed like at you personally, I get its because they are showing interest in him, others think he is possibility there. My post was 100% really about how stupid the Dolphins front office would be if they do it. I think that they are going to do it, if Mike McDaniel gets his way. There were reports that the Fins staff all went to Austin to look at Sweat on Texas' pro day, but that McDaniel spent all day drooling over Worthy. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I feel the guy the Bills, not fans, Want is Franklin how about Odunze & Franklin if we keep our 2nd 😎 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Low Positive said: I think that they are going to do it, if Mike McDaniel gets his way. There were reports that the Fins staff all went to Austin to look at Sweat on Texas' pro day, but that McDaniel spent all day drooling over Worthy. As the GM of the Dolphins in the TSW v3.0 Mock there is no F-ing way I am taking Worthy even though I am fully aware they might actually be that dumb on draft night. So I definitely agree he is a legit option at 21 on draft night because McDaniel is a buffoon who has no clue how to build a football team. Personally, I think McDaniel is fired after this year as I don't see them making playoffs. Teams like Bengals, Jets, Steelers, Browns, Chargers, Colts and some others all have a legit shot at being better this year and being or challenging to be a playoff team. Then you still got Chiefs, Bills, Houston, Ravens, Jags, etc. Miami barely made it last year and choked the division away with a stronger roster than they will have this year. So to use a first round pick on a guy who will be penciled in as your WR3 this year with Hill and Waddle there would be just stupid unless they are trading one of Hill or Waddle. They are so bad in the trenches, and its going to be their achilles heal this year. None of this is about Worthy who I think will go first round. Its about the Dolphins make up of their team and how taking Worthy for them is a Madden team building move, not an NFL team building move that will probably get this regime fired a year from now when they go down as the fastest team in history to not make the playoffs. 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Low Positive said: I think that they are going to do it, if Mike McDaniel gets his way. There were reports that the Fins staff all went to Austin to look at Sweat on Texas' pro day, but that McDaniel spent all day drooling over Worthy. wouldn’t surprise me…they already have 2 of the fastest WR’s and RB’s in the league. I’d really prefer to not see Worthy on their team…. Edited April 23 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
dje85 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Charles Campbell via rumors section at Walter football.com Yesterday, we reported here in the Hot Press how some sources with teams in the top 10 said Minnesota is definitely trading up for a quarterback. Another team that sources say is aggressively trying to figure out a trade-up in the first round is the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo front office has been calling teams and gauging trades to be prepared to move up on Thursday night. Sources say the Bills are targeting a wide receiver, and the most likely targets are LSU’s Brian Thomas Jr. and Texas’ Xavier Worthy. Both are possibilities for Buffalo, but it sounds like the preference is toward Thomas. After trading veteran Stefon Diggs, it sounds like Buffalo is going to be aggressive about finding Josh Allen’s next No. 1 receiver. https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-tuesday.php 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 11 minutes ago, dje85 said: Charles Campbell via rumors section at Walter football.com Yesterday, we reported here in the Hot Press how some sources with teams in the top 10 said Minnesota is definitely trading up for a quarterback. Another team that sources say is aggressively trying to figure out a trade-up in the first round is the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo front office has been calling teams and gauging trades to be prepared to move up on Thursday night. Sources say the Bills are targeting a wide receiver, and the most likely targets are LSU’s Brian Thomas Jr. and Texas’ Xavier Worthy. Both are possibilities for Buffalo, but it sounds like the preference is toward Thomas. After trading veteran Stefon Diggs, it sounds like Buffalo is going to be aggressive about finding Josh Allen’s next No. 1 receiver. https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-tuesday.php Great post, thanks!!! Higher end outcome would be finding a way to pull BOTH Brian Thomas & Xavier Legette I believe it can be done if Legette makes it into Round 2 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: As the GM of the Dolphins in the TSW v3.0 Mock there is no F-ing way I am taking Worthy even though I am fully aware they might actually be that dumb on draft night. So I definitely agree he is a legit option at 21 on draft night because McDaniel is a buffoon who has no clue how to build a football team. Personally, I think McDaniel is fired after this year as I don't see them making playoffs. Teams like Bengals, Jets, Steelers, Browns, Chargers, Colts and some others all have a legit shot at being better this year and being or challenging to be a playoff team. Then you still got Chiefs, Bills, Houston, Ravens, Jags, etc. Miami barely made it last year and choked the division away with a stronger roster than they will have this year. So to use a first round pick on a guy who will be penciled in as your WR3 this year with Hill and Waddle there would be just stupid unless they are trading one of Hill or Waddle. They are so bad in the trenches, and its going to be their achilles heal this year. None of this is about Worthy who I think will go first round. Its about the Dolphins make up of their team and how taking Worthy for them is a Madden team building move, not an NFL team building move that will probably get this regime fired a year from now when they go down as the fastest team in history to not make the playoffs. McDaniel is a lot smarter than you give him credit for. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Move up for Brian Thomas Jr & trade a 2nd + 4th next year for Aiyuk? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) smoke screen? Haha Xavier & Xavier would be fun Edited April 24 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote
julian Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: smoke screen? Haha I will sleep well if they come away with Worthy Thursday night, not only do I envision Worthy tracking down 70 yard bombs behind the defense, His presence only will alter how opponents game plan and execute against the Bills offense opening up the underneath game. 5 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, julian said: I will sleep well if they come away with Worthy Thursday night, not only do I envision Worthy tracking down 70 yard bombs behind the defense, His presence only will alter how opponents game plan and execute against the Bills offense opening up the underneath game. I do agree with that and his ball tracking skills seem to be very good 1 Quote
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