NFL draft rumors 2024

[MiracleAtRich1393]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted.

I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now.

 

I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust".

And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league.

Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 

Totally get it on BTJ. But he has blazing speed that has to be respected in a huge frame no less. If teams have to play high safeties or else get burned for a TD in the blink of an eye, that's where the underneath mismatches get exploited with all the short area/YAC threats we have (Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel, Cook, and Josh).

 

So I could definitely see a bust if he's expected to be your #1 from day 1. For a fit with the pieces around him I think he works very well with the skill sets we have decided to emphasize on the roster.

[Allen2Moulds]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted.

I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now.

 

I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust".

And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league.

Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 

Been crushing on Nabers for months.  He's the one guy you trade the farm for.

 

I love that McConkey is smart and a good separator, but I agree with the athletic.  Size/durability concerns are real.  Doesn't look like he'll hold up.  If it wasn't for that, we might be talking about him, like we talk about the big 3.

 

I still like BTJ, and feel that at worst, he would be a good deep threat. It's up to Beane and staff, to see whether or not he can expand his route tree a bit. I can't help but think of DK. 

 

To me, the only guy that can do it all, is Nabers.  I think everyone else has 1 flaw or another.  

 

Draft can't come soon enough!

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Been crushing on Nabers for months.  He's the one guy you trade the farm for.

 

I love that McConkey is smart and a good separator, but I agree with the athletic.  Size/durability concerns are real.  Doesn't look like he'll hold up.  If it wasn't for that, we might be talking about him, like we talk about the big 3.

 

I still like BTJ, and feel that at worst, he would be a good deep threat. It's up to Beane and staff, to see whether or not he can expand his route tree a bit. I can't help but think of DK. 

 

To me, the only guy that can do it all, is Nabers.  I think everyone else has 1 flaw or another.  

 

Draft can't come soon enough!

 

I see that a lot and I just don't agree with these writers.  He is about the same size as Stefon Diggs.  Marvin Harrison as well and he played in an era where you could hit.  

 

If you have the ability not to take big shots all the time, you will last long.  McConkey is that guy.

[LEBills]

Does not seem Legette came to Buffalo for a visit. On an interview with the Draft Network he said he had 14 visits and listed 13. He also confirmed in another interview he went to Carolina as well.

 

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I went on 14 visits altogether. I haven’t been home very much. I went to the Texans, Pittsburgh, Chiefs, Chargers, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Eagles, San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Green Bay, and the Broncos. I’ve been a little bit everywhere (laughs).

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/04/22/xavier-legette-nfl-draft-networking-interview

[LLCoolCy]

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I see that a lot and I just don't agree with these writers.  He is about the same size as Stefon Diggs.  Marvin Harrison as well and he played in an era where you could hit.  

 

If you have the ability not to take big shots all the time, you will last long.  McConkey is that guy.

 

McConkey is getting the injury label by missing games the past 2 years due to injury thus not showing the "ability to take big shots". This isn't a potential preventative narrative it is based off his history and being smaller than the other prospects that haven't missed time. Diggs and Harrison may be the similar size but have demonstrated they can avoid hits and not miss time.  Injuries can be fluky so I am not saying Ladd will definitely get injured but hasn't shown that in college. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

59 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs:

 

-Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick.

 

-The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprisingly poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him.

 

-On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28.

 

Mcbeane said they want to be more explosive and needed more explosive plays.  Worthy is exactly that. 

[MikePJ76]

FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.

[JaCrispy]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

[gonzo1105]

44 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Does not seem Legette came to Buffalo for a visit. On an interview with the Draft Network he said he had 14 visits and listed 13. He also confirmed in another interview he went to Carolina as well.

 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/04/22/xavier-legette-nfl-draft-networking-interview

Good to get confirmation on this as I suspected they didn’t bring him in. Further shores up that he’s not their guy imo

[mannc]

Just now, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

I love Odunze, and he seems Billsy (in a good way) but I don’t think he goes in the top 10 like most here assume.  I could see the Bills trying to get him if he makes it to 12….

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

finding out thomas has off the field issues and a possible torn labrum leads me to believe they only take him if he falls to the 20's and hopefully do not dare trade away picks to move up for him.

 

I am a hell no on off the field issues with a wr.  They are the most entitled people in the league and when they start from day 1 with issues that is a giant red flag to me.

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

He is elite at contested catches. He ran a 4.45 in the 40 at 6’3 212 pounds. Sure that’s not 4.33 but it’s plenty elite ebough at a guy that size who runs a much stronger route tree. Could you argue BTJ has higher upside I could see that but he also has a way lower floor 

[Logic]

Odunze is a stud and would be the Bills' WR1 instantly and for years to come.

He's a tick below Nabers and MHJ, but would still be WR1 in most draft years.

He's awesome. The Bills should only be so lucky.

[boyst]

i keep reading these reports on players so i went and found a tape measure at work. at my tallest in HS i was just at 6'3". i'm just under 6'1 5/8" now with old age.

 

my arms are both about 30 1/2". i was curious how'd i'd compare because i never measured. i should probably be a 1st round pick.

Edited April 23 by boyst

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

i keep reading these reports on players so i went and found a tape measure at work. at my tallest in HS i was just at 6'3". i'm just under 6'2 5/8" now with old age.

 

my arms are both about 30 1/2". i was curious how'd i'd compare because i never measured. i should probably be a 1st round pick.

You left out the most important measurement, Boyst.















....your heart.

[gonzo1105]

12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.

I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

he had Denver taking Bo Nix at 28

[Turbo44]

11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

I think the chance Odunze makes it #12 are <25%; if he does, Beane should be all over trading up for Denver's pick.  Unlike one poster said, "Odunze is very good at everything but not elite at anything," I 100% disagree; he's elite or near elite in every category.

Edited April 23 by Turbo44
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[Buffalo_Stampede]

I’ll put this in the rumors thread.

 

We're drafting Rome Odunze or Xavier Worthy. Write it down in ink.

[Logic]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll put this in the rumors thread.

 

We're drafting Rome Odunze or Xavier Worthy. Write it down in ink.

Blink once if you have a source and twice if you're just feeling saucy. I won't ask any followup questions, I just need to know whether I should pour a celebratory beer.

Edited April 23 by Logic