NFL draft rumors 2024

[BarleyNY]

41 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

Oh yeah I was referring to the supposed Herbert to MN rumor 

 

whoops! sorry about that.

 

no, the chargers can’t trade Hebert. $108.5M dead cap if they traded him. That can’t happen. 

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

whoops! sorry about that.

 

no, the chargers can’t trade Hebert. $108.5M dead cap if they traded him. That can’t happen. 

Don't say this or use logic.

 

I just got +25,000 on Chargers first pick being a QB 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Brand J]

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

[SCBills]

18 minutes ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

I believe you’re correct, but I can’t fault Beane for making sure he got Allen a proven top tier WR over the potential of Jefferson (or whoever we would’ve taken there). 
 

That being said.. Diggs want to be in his feels about not getting over the hump with Allen, but he’s a main culprit in why that occurred. 

[Turbo44]

48 minutes ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

Give me any draft and team and I’ll tell you what they could have done better. Jefferson wasn’t even a consensus 1st rd pick. It’s like 4 years from now and Mitchell or legette end up being the best wr in this draft

[Brand J]

20 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Give me any draft and team and I’ll tell you what they could have done better. Jefferson wasn’t even a consensus 1st rd pick. It’s like 4 years from now and Mitchell or legette end up being the best wr in this draft

All the mocks I saw had Jefferson in the first. I remember the two main “knocks” against him were:

 

Is he primarily a slot receiver? And…

He wasn’t even the best receiver on that LSU team. The number one guy comes out next year (Chase).

 

Jefferson was of course a missed evaluation on all those who selected receiver before him, as well as Beane for not seeing the potential outside his top 3 of Ruggs, Jeudy, and Lamb. He also didn’t see the potential of those two Ole Miss receivers a year earlier.
 

Like you, I believe there will be guys who ultimately go on to produce more than one or two of the top 3 names in this draft. It’s one of the reasons I’m against trading up. 

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

“Simply” 
 

The decision wasn’t Diggs or Jefferson. The decision was Diggs or the 22nd pick. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

23 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

One idea I heard floated is that if things fall wrong on getting a WR Day 1 and 2 (amazing non WR in round 1, no one in the mid tier by pick 60) that the Billls could throw picks to get Sutton And Denver eats the money while the Bills take a flier

[TheBeaneBandit]

2 hours ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

Not one single GM knew that the fifth receiver drafted that year would turn out to be the best receiver in the NFL. Sit.

[dave mcbride]

https://wapo.st/3W9A7BM (Gift article):

 

’The proximity of the Giants’ selection (sixth overall) to Arizona’s fourth pick has many giving New York the edge in completing that trade.

 

“They aren’t playing with Daniel Jones, I can tell you that much,” a second GM said of the Giants’ incumbent. “I hear it’s McCarthy or Maye” for New York.’

 

 

[QLBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

Right and if all those things happened BB would be the best GM in NFL history. Hindsight is a great predictor. Several teams chose not to select JJ at WR after the Vikes Bills trade. Yes Ford wasn’t good but had he been then it’s a different story. BB has missed some for sure. But also hit on enough to be a top 10 GM. 

[QLBillsFan]

On 4/17/2024 at 4:40 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

What if he has a crash in the 4th quarter of a critical game though and suddenly you can't use your top weapon on a potential game winning drive? It's that more than anything else that would make me fidgety about drafting someone with type 1 diabetes in the first round. Yes, you can have the best dieticians, you can come up with plans, you can try and manage but in a sport where you then have to go 3 and a half hours on a Sunday and monitor and control constantly in that time.... I dunno. Would concern me. Wouldn't take him off the board but would likely make me drop him a bit if I was a GM.  

Diabetes is very manageable for elite athletes with world class athletic trainers. Yikes,  numerous athletes are diabetic that you aren’t aware of. This should mean nothing to his draft position. I would be more concerned that he takes plays off if that is accurate. 

[OldTimer1960]

4 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Diabetes is very manageable for elite athletes with world class athletic trainers. Yikes,  numerous athletes are diabetic that you aren’t aware of. This should mean nothing to his draft position. I would be more concerned that he takes plays off if that is accurate. 

I think the bigger concern is effort and whether he is willing to take coaching.  The rumors about Mitchell are concerning, but we don’t know if they are true.  I trust that the Bills have done a ton of research on these receivers.

[Turbo44]

2 hours ago, Brand J said:

All the mocks I saw had Jefferson in the first. I remember the two main “knocks” against him were:

 

Is he primarily a slot receiver? And…

He wasn’t even the best receiver on that LSU team. The number one guy comes out next year (Chase).

 

Jefferson was of course a missed evaluation on all those who selected receiver before him, as well as Beane for not seeing the potential outside his top 3 of Ruggs, Jeudy, and Lamb. He also didn’t see the potential of those two Ole Miss receivers a year earlier.
 

Like you, I believe there will be guys who ultimately go on to produce more than one or two of the top 3 names in this draft. It’s one of the reasons I’m against trading up. 

Agreed. I think Legette may be the guy, huge upside but sizable downside.

 

I love Ladd but he admittedly does have a limited ceiling, I think. Still if Ladd ends up being a “faster/quicker”  Cole Beasley, nobody is going to complain about a guy with 90 catches, 1100 yards and 8 tds a year.

my best draft idea is Ladd at 28 and trade 60 and a 2nd in 2015 for the low 40s to grab Legette.

 

the way Josh was talking about Legette (“the dude has the best southern drawl”) leads me to believe he’s someone they’re considering 

 

2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I think the bigger concern is effort and whether he is willing to take coaching.  The rumors about Mitchell are concerning, but we don’t know if they are true.  I trust that the Bills have done a ton of research on these receivers.

 Mitchell’s workout numbers are as impressive as any wr in the draft, given his size, but his onfield production is mediocre. The Bills talk about YAC a lot and he’s absolutely terrible at YAC. Is this something that can improve possibly with a different use by the Bills? Not sure, but, it is a reason why I think he’s not being targeted by the Bills

[Dr. Who]

44 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

https://wapo.st/3W9A7BM (Gift article):

 

’The proximity of the Giants’ selection (sixth overall) to Arizona’s fourth pick has many giving New York the edge in completing that trade.

 

“They aren’t playing with Daniel Jones, I can tell you that much,” a second GM said of the Giants’ incumbent. “I hear it’s McCarthy or Maye” for New York.’

 

 

Makes too much sense. If you are counting on Jones to save your jobs, might as well put your houses on the market now.

[GunnerBill]

24 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Diabetes is very manageable for elite athletes with world class athletic trainers. Yikes,  numerous athletes are diabetic that you aren’t aware of. This should mean nothing to his draft position. I would be more concerned that he takes plays off if that is accurate. 

 

I don't agree that it means nothing. It is manageable but it is also a risk factor that you have to build into the overall evaluation.

[Dr. Who]

11 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Agreed. I think Legette may be the guy, huge upside but sizable downside.

 

I love Ladd but he admittedly does have a limited ceiling, I think. Still if Ladd ends up being a “faster/quicker”  Cole Beasley, nobody is going to complain about a guy with 90 catches, 1100 yards and 8 tds a year.

my best draft idea is Ladd at 28 and trade 60 and a 2nd in 2015 for the low 40s to grab Legette.

 

the way Josh was talking about Legette (“the dude has the best southern drawl”) leads me to believe he’s someone they’re considering 

 

 Mitchell’s workout numbers are as impressive as any wr in the draft, given his size, but his onfield production is mediocre. The Bills talk about YAC a lot and he’s absolutely terrible at YAC. Is this something that can improve possibly with a different use by the Bills? Not sure, but, it is a reason why I think he’s not being targeted by the Bills

McConkey and Legette is my favored combo pick. I was pushing for Kincaid last year, so if it happens, I'm going to maybe dance in the street. (I live on a rural farm, so only the cows, barn cats, and miniature horses will likely wonder what the damn fool is up to.) They are both late first/early second candidates. Your plan for taking McConkey at 28 and Legette in a trade up is also mine. 

 

Some folks appear to think wanting two WRs this early makes one a "knucklehead." I don't think they have properly assessed where our WR room is right now. If they don't grab 2 early, I suspect a trade for a veteran may happen. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

16 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

Agreed. I think Legette may be the guy, huge upside but sizable downside.

 

I love Ladd but he admittedly does have a limited ceiling, I think. Still if Ladd ends up being a “faster/quicker”  Cole Beasley, nobody is going to complain about a guy with 90 catches, 1100 yards and 8 tds a year.

my best draft idea is Ladd at 28 and trade 60 and a 2nd in 2015 for the low 40s to grab Legette.

 

the way Josh was talking about Legette (“the dude has the best southern drawl”) leads me to believe he’s someone they’re considering 

 

 Mitchell’s workout numbers are as impressive as any wr in the draft, given his size, but his onfield production is mediocre. The Bills talk about YAC a lot and he’s absolutely terrible at YAC. Is this something that can improve possibly with a different use by the Bills? Not sure, but, it is a reason why I think he’s not being targeted by the Bills

McConkey at 28 and a trade up to get Legette would be amazing,but I don't see it happening.   McDermott is going to bang the table for CB, Safety and another rotating D lineman.

[BobbyC81]

17 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I think the bigger concern is effort and whether he is willing to take coaching.  The rumors about Mitchell are concerning, but we don’t know if they are true.  I trust that the Bills have done a ton of research on these receivers.

I don’t have the same confidence in front offices and scouting staffs as most.  How could somebody talk to Jamarcus Russell and not realize he was an idiot who was happy just getting his first contract and then was “I’m good”

[BuffaloBillyG]

17 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Diabetes is very manageable for elite athletes with world class athletic trainers. Yikes,  numerous athletes are diabetic that you aren’t aware of. This should mean nothing to his draft position. I would be more concerned that he takes plays off if that is accurate. 

In the long run, it may or may not be a factor in his play depending on if they find the correct manner to manage it and he stays on the routine that's needed. 

 

It does factor in like any other player with a medical question. Be it diabetes, knee issues, back problems ect....each team has to factor it in and weigh it with everything else. 

 

Will it play into where he gets picked? Maybe. Maybe not. Takes one team feeling it's worth the risk/reward and he's picked. I do have a feeling if he slips it's more because of possible attitude issues than the diabetes. But being I've never talked to the guy or those in the know I don't know how true they are.