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17 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

https://wapo.st/3W9A7BM (Gift article):

 

’The proximity of the Giants’ selection (sixth overall) to Arizona’s fourth pick has many giving New York the edge in completing that trade.

 

“They aren’t playing with Daniel Jones, I can tell you that much,” a second GM said of the Giants’ incumbent. “I hear it’s McCarthy or Maye” for New York.’

 

 

 

The two issues I see with the Giants trade up option is:

 

1. What do the Cardinals get in return? You are asking them to give up MJH. If they are getting two or even three ones from Minnesota (even sending a day 2 pick back) that and the chance to still get back up with Atlanta for the 3rd of these receivers given that Joe Alt is a lock to go either at #5 or #7 is attractive. If it is give up MJH for Nabers or Odunze and say swap a third for a second round pick  (I'd imagine something like Cards get #6 and #47 and NYG get #4 and #90) is that tempting enough? Depends what difference in grades they have between Harrison and the other two I suppose. 

 

2. If you are trading back with the Giants you might wanna be absolutely convinced they are not going to just take the receiver you would have taken there. I dunno. It would be risky for me. Again it depends do AZ like Harrison a lot more? What about the other two, do they have those close together?

 

But I have heard the Giants are in the QB market if the right guy is there from the very start of the process so I totally buy their desire to go up. 

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26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The two issues I see with the Giants trade up option is:

 

1. What do the Cardinals get in return? You are asking them to give up MJH. If they are getting two or even three ones from Minnesota (even sending a day 2 pick back) that and the chance to still get back up with Atlanta for the 3rd of these receivers given that Joe Alt is a lock to go either at #5 or #7 is attractive. If it is give up MJH for Nabers or Odunze and say swap a third for a second round pick  (I'd imagine something like Cards get #6 and #47 and NYG get #4 and #90) is that tempting enough? Depends what difference in grades they have between Harrison and the other two I suppose. 

 

2. If you are trading back with the Giants you might wanna be absolutely convinced they are not going to just take the receiver you would have taken there. I dunno. It would be risky for me. Again it depends do AZ like Harrison a lot more? What about the other two, do they have those close together?

 

But I have heard the Giants are in the QB market if the right guy is there from the very start of the process so I totally buy their desire to go up. 


I think Maye is their guy but we may never know the answer 

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21 hours ago, Brand J said:

If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players. 

Ah…the benefits of knowing how it all plays out. 

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3 minutes ago, LEBills said:

 


It doesn’t hurt him by putting it out there if another team, Bills or someone else, are interested in the first round. 
 

I will say if I was the Panthers GM/Coaching staff, and this is truth, I’d be pretty pissed about it. 
 

Legette clearly is hyping this so someone will take him in round 1 

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4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:


Dude is begging other teams to take him ahead of the Panthers and I don’t blame him

 

He supposedly is just not very bright - he may just be answering honestly.

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8 minutes ago, LEBills said:

 


I will say of course the Panthers are going to meet with him a lot as well. He’s a position they need and he’s an hour and a half away. He’s a free 30 visit I’d assume, of course they’ll go to his pro day when it’s less than 2 hours away and I’m assuming scouts are at the NC/SC schools all the time 

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16 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


It doesn’t hurt him by putting it out there if another team, Bills or someone else, are interested in the first round. 
 

I will say if I was the Panthers GM/Coaching staff, and this is truth, I’d be pretty pissed about it. 
 

Legette clearly is hyping this so someone will take him in round 1 


I wouldn’t be surprised if a scout was being friendly and hyping him up saying we want you if you’re there at 33. Came across to me as him just answering the question honestly rather than angling for a higher pick, he has said elsewhere that being with the Panthers would let his family see him play. Hoping they take him so Beane isn’t tempted if we trade back.

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2 minutes ago, LEBills said:


I wouldn’t be surprised if a scout was being friendly and hyping him up saying we want you if you’re there at 33. Came across to me as him just answering the question honestly rather than angling for a higher pick, he has said elsewhere that being with the Panthers would let his family see him play. Hoping they take him so Beane isn’t tempted if we trade back.


Besides media conjecture, There have really been no signs of the Bills having late interest in Legette. It’s possible they’re keeping it secret or hasn’t leaked yet. I’m sure he’s on their board though. 

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It is probably Tepper telling him - he is a clown that fella. I don't think Legette was necessarily angling for anything there although saying they are taking him at 33 wasn't the smartest move. 

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2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


Besides media conjecture, There have really been no signs of the Bills having late interest in Legette. It’s possible they’re keeping it secret or hasn’t leaked yet. I’m sure he’s on their board though. 


Yea this year is one of the most mysterious as we only have about 17 of the top 30 visits accounted for. Beane said we used all 30 so they are keeping this close to the vest. He would be a good selection at a later point in the draft.

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That early part of round 2 is going to see a huge run of WR’s

 

Thats why passing on WR at 28 or moving back to 40 is a bad idea 

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2 minutes ago, DJB said:

That early part of round 2 is going to see a huge run of WR’s

 

Thats why passing on WR at 28 or moving back to 40 is a bad idea 


If the Bills trade down into the late 30s or early 40s I’m stating now their taking Keon Coleman 

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A few nuggets from Charlie Campbell:

 

 

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Many weeks ago, I reported that the Washington Commanders had turned down trade offers at the 2024 NFL Scouting Combine for the No. 2-overall pick. The Commanders turned down those offers because they are targeting a new franchise quarterback. In following up with some team sources, they said the Patriots also turned down trade offers for the No. 3-overall pick of the 2024 NFL Draft. The Patriots have stated they are open for business, but they have turned down offers. That makes it sound like New England is waiting to see if it can get an absurd offer, but more likely, the team is sticking at with the third pick to select a quarterback.

 

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Among teams with top-10 picks, it is nearly a foregone conclusion that the Minnesota Vikings are likely to trade up. Team sources said the Vikings are not sitting at pick No. 11 and are trying hard to get to the fourth pick. Other teams believe that the parameters of a trade are in place between the Cardinals and Vikings. However, the only way they think Vikings may not trade into a top-five pick for a quarterback is if another team beats them to it.

 

Depending on how the quarterbacks come off the board in the top three, the Giants at No. 6 might jump to the fourth pick to get a quarterback they want if the right player slides there. For the Cardinals, that option is intriguing because they would probably get the Giants’ 2025 first-round pick and be in position to still come away with an elite receiver, like Marvin Harrison Jr. or Malik Nabers. The Broncos are another option of a team that could jump to the fourth pick of the 2024 NFL, because they are desperate for a young quarterback after cutting Russell Wilson.

 

Sources from teams picking in the top 10 said the Vikings trade with the Texans to land the 23rd pick of the draft was done to give the Vikings the draft capital to get in position for a trade upward. The Vikings will offer picks No. 11 and 23, as well as possibly their first-round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, to get to the fourth pick this year. Sources at other teams think the Vikings are almost a certainty to move up and will not be waiting at No. 11 with hopes that a quarterback will fall to their pick. It will be fascinating to see which trade, or trades, become a reality on Thursday night.

 

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Three years ago, the 49ers traded into a top-three pick to be in position to draft Trey Lance, and they did that trade with Miami many weeks before the 2021 NFL Draft. There was some thought that Arizona could do its trade early as well to have more time to plan at the lower picks. Sources, however, said the Cardinals are waiting until they are on the clock because they think that will only help to drive the price up. Arizona general manager Monti Ossenfort thinks time pressure could prompt a team like the Vikings or Broncos to panic and help to max out the level of return that is coming to the Cardinals.

 

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The pre-draft interview process for LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels has been somewhat challenging. Daniels has handled himself well, but teams have questioned some of what is going on around him – specifically with family and how that will impact the locker room. Daniels’ mother was known to be especially close with former Arizona State and current Las Vegas Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce when Daniels was playing for Pierce with the Sun Devils. She also was said to be extremely close to former teammates Malik Nabers and Kayshon Boutte. Teams wondered if those kind of issues would be a problem and a distraction for Daniels in the NFL, but to his credit, he does not seem to care at all about that and has maintained his focus on football. Over the past three seasons, Daniels gave proof that coaches’ or teammates’ relationships with his mother would not impact his play or conduct in the locker room. Still, it was an odd situation that teams looked into during the draft process.

 

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UCLA edge rusher Laiatu Latu received some fantastic and potentially life changing news in that a lot of teams doctors medically cleared him. Latu had a neck injury at Washington that forced him to briefly retire before he came back with the Bruins and produced two outstanding seasons of rushing the quarterback in the Pac-12. Some NFL team sources were expecting their doctors to flunk Latu, but many passed Latu to keep him alive on draft boards. As a result, Latu has a shot at cracking the top 10.

 

“Latu is the most natural pass rusher in this draft,” said an AFC director of player personnel. “Our doctors passed him, but we can be strict with medical concerns, so I don’t know that we would take him, but someone else will.”

 

Latu has more size, speed and production than the other potential first-round edge rushers: Alabama’s Dallas Turner, Florida State’s Jared Verse and Penn State’s Chop Robinson. Because medical evaluations are different for each team, there is a wide range of where Latu could come off the board. However, his chances of going on Thursday night, and hopes of going high, have improved greatly over the past few weeks since teams received the positive medical evaluations from their doctors.

 

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Posted
20 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

McConkey and Legette is my favored combo pick. I was pushing for Kincaid last year, so if it happens, I'm going to maybe dance in the street. (I live on a rural farm, so only the cows, barn cats, and miniature horses will likely wonder what the damn fool is up to.) They are both late first/early second candidates. Your plan for taking McConkey at 28 and Legette in a trade up is also mine. 

 

Some folks appear to think wanting two WRs this early makes one a "knucklehead." I don't think they have properly assessed where our WR room is right now. If they don't grab 2 early, I suspect a trade for a veteran may happen. 

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It’s a pipe dream imo…..but that would be incredible.  I don’t see us being that fortunate 

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52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

It is probably Tepper telling him - he is a clown that fella. I don't think Legette was necessarily angling for anything there although saying they are taking him at 33 wasn't the smartest move. 

 

why? because he's being honest?  Who the heck cares.  GOOD FOR HIM. 

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