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9 hours ago, muppy said:

if any good can come from this thread and death it is to encourage men to get their prostate checkups as recommended by your Dr.

 

As far as cancers go I am told this one is very treatable if caught early.  

 

**** Cancer

How about just being citizens respecting life and the law?

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During the machinations of OJ's criminal trial, I was dating a wildly inappropriate woman -- which tracks, because at the time I was also wildly inappropriate.  Everybody hated everybody so there was parity.

 

I happened to snark on dinner night (one night, with her family) that OJ would have his charges reduced to a noisy muffler infraction, and a short time later, there we were.  I was wrong in premise, but I was also right that literally zero would happen to him in that criminal trial.

 

The judge was an attention seeker, the lead detective an avowed racist, the assistant DA a (former?) stripper (that was real, right?), Kato, useless witnesses, a circus of a trial, a glove did not fit, and jeez, like so many others I came to understand that OJ had literally gotten away with not one, but two -- TWO! -- murders.

 

 

 

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OJ is a very complex legacy. He was unquestionably a great football player. Heisman trophy winner in college, number one overall pick and a Hall of Fame pro career with an insane 2K rushing yards season in just 14 games.  
 

Prior to his murder trial he was kind of a Trailblazer in terms of being a black man accepted as a corporate spokesperson for mass market “white” products.

 

But all of that was completely undone by his murder trial in which while he was acquitted largely to a great defense team and a botched prosecution and police investigation. But the evidence largely points to him having done it and he was convicted both in civil court and in the court of public opinion.

 

Then he ended up in jail for an armed robbery before spending the last years of his life giving fantasy football advice on Twitter. Just an odd place where his life ended up. He could have very easily lived a great life but in his late 40’s it got completely turned upside down. 
 

Then there’s also the CTE issues and other questions. But for now his life is over and he’s remembered for what he is.

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1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

OJ is a very complex legacy. He was unquestionably a great football player. Heisman trophy winner in college, number one overall pick and a Hall of Fame pro career with an insane 2K rushing yards season in just 14 games.  
 

Prior to his murder trial he was kind of a Trailblazer in terms of being a black man accepted as a corporate spokesperson for mass market “white” products.

 

But all of that was completely undone by his murder trial in which while he was acquitted largely to a great defense team and a botched prosecution and police investigation. But the evidence largely points to him having done it and he was convicted both in civil court and in the court of public opinion.

 

Then he ended up in jail for an armed robbery before spending the last years of his life giving fantasy football advice on Twitter. Just an odd place where his life ended up. He could have very easily lived a great life but in his late 40’s it got completely turned upside down. 
 

Then there’s also the CTE issues and other questions. But for now his life is over and he’s remembered for what he is.

I’m watching the 30 for 30: OJ made in America, right now. You touch upon many of the issues the documentary brings up. I keep wondering what happened psychologically between college and retirement from NFL. Could be CTE, could be death of his daughter, divorce, infidelity, fame, or all of the above. His son Jason has mental illness and I wonder if OJ also had it too. We will never know. Just heartbreaking that the young man you see in the beginning of the documentary isn’t the same person you see towards the end. I’ve heard it said you become the best or worst version of yourself as you age. So tragic because he became the worst version. He also talked about himself in 3rd person most of the time (red flag).

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1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

OJ is a very complex legacy. He was unquestionably a great football player. Heisman trophy winner in college, number one overall pick and a Hall of Fame pro career with an insane 2K rushing yards season in just 14 games.  
 

Prior to his murder trial he was kind of a Trailblazer in terms of being a black man accepted as a corporate spokesperson for mass market “white” products.

 

But all of that was completely undone by his murder trial in which while he was acquitted largely to a great defense team and a botched prosecution and police investigation. But the evidence largely points to him having done it and he was convicted both in civil court and in the court of public opinion.

 

Then he ended up in jail for an armed robbery before spending the last years of his life giving fantasy football advice on Twitter. Just an odd place where his life ended up. He could have very easily lived a great life but in his late 40’s it got completely turned upside down. 
 

Then there’s also the CTE issues and other questions. But for now his life is over and he’s remembered for what he is.

True but I’ll add he was acquitted because the jury feared massive riots and destruction if they found him guilty. 

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1 minute ago, AlfaBill said:

True but I’ll add he was acquitted because the jury feared massive riots and destruction if they found him guilty. 


Hmmmm….got any evidence for this??

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15 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

True but I’ll add he was acquitted because the jury feared massive riots and destruction if they found him guilty. 

Perhaps , but at least one juror has stated that the jury thought he was guilty but they went with the not guilty verdict to punish the LAPD for the Rodney King beating. 

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1 hour ago, AlfaBill said:

True but I’ll add he was acquitted because the jury feared massive riots and destruction if they found him guilty. 


I think a juror (who was a black woman) said in an interview after the trial that she said she rendered an innocent verdict as revenge for the Rodney King beating. 

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I worked at NBC for decades. Lots of rememberences on the NBC retiree FB page about OJ this week. The general consensus was he was very liked by crew and production in the 80s. He live big and generally treated people well. Several though have mentioned he could be a different person outside the workplace. Some funny stories about his antics on the road with Ahmad Rashad and the Production folks.  But also, etc instances of berating Maitre D's and Valets. 2 people who would be in a postiion to know said they say him being pretty nasty to his wife at times: shoving her into a limo, yelling at her on phone, losing his temper etc late 80s and early 90s. I never really dealt with him myself but trust the word of the guys who mentione this.

 

I worked 4P-12M shift the night of the Bronco Chase . NBA Finals Game 5 was at Garden. Fascinating being in that control room. NBC had the NBA, Ebersol was all over the place talking to the News Specials Unit. News and Sports were fighting it out had no idea what to do, so they went with a split screen of the game and chase. Was so Jarring for the NBC people who knew OJ. a real WTF moment.

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15 minutes ago, Olliemets said:

I worked at NBC for decades. Lots of rememberences on the NBC retiree FB page about OJ this week. The general consensus was he was very liked by crew and production in the 80s. He live big and generally treated people well. Several though have mentioned he could be a different person outside the workplace. Some funny stories about his antics on the road with Ahmad Rashad and the Production folks.  But also, etc instances of berating Maitre D's and Valets. 2 people who would be in a postiion to know said they say him being pretty nasty to his wife at times: shoving her into a limo, yelling at her on phone, losing his temper etc late 80s and early 90s. I never really dealt with him myself but trust the word of the guys who mentione this.

 

I worked 4P-12M shift the night of the Bronco Chase . NBA Finals Game 5 was at Garden. Fascinating being in that control room. NBC had the NBA, Ebersol was all over the place talking to the News Specials Unit. News and Sports were fighting it out had no idea what to do, so they went with a split screen of the game and chase. Was so Jarring for the NBC people who knew OJ. a real WTF moment.

That has to be an insane life memory.  Have you ever watched the 30 for 30 on that night?  Thought they did a good job bringing all those things together.  That will always be an Infamous day in American history. 

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2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

That has to be an insane life memory.  Have you ever watched the 30 for 30 on that night?  Thought they did a good job bringing all those things together.  That will always be an Infamous day in American history. 

Have not, but this week has raised my interest level. Will most definitely watch it. All this weeks discussion has triggered a lot of memories of that entire evening. Chaos in the control room. Some wild conversation and as always...a few laughs. TV talk.

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16 hours ago, TheCockSportif said:

During the machinations of OJ's criminal trial, I was dating a wildly inappropriate woman -- which tracks, because at the time I was also wildly inappropriate.  Everybody hated everybody so there was parity.

 

I happened to snark on dinner night (one night, with her family) that OJ would have his charges reduced to a noisy muffler infraction, and a short time later, there we were.  I was wrong in premise, but I was also right that literally zero would happen to him in that criminal trial.

 

The judge was an attention seeker, the lead detective an avowed racist, the assistant DA a (former?) stripper (that was real, right?), Kato, useless witnesses, a circus of a trial, a glove did not fit, and jeez, like so many others I came to understand that OJ had literally gotten away with not one, but two -- TWO! -- murders.

 

 

 


You can’t leave out the jury. That group is fascinating to me. Wonder if any of them have commented on his death. 
 

If a juror admitted that their judgement was based on anything other than their unbiased understanding of the evidence presented, they are committing a felony. This isn’t Nam. 
 

Again, I actually think he didn’t do it, but I think he knew exactly what happened. 

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Just another little weird distant connection I have is that as a kid and then a young adult, I’d attend the LA Open at Riviera Country Club every single year from the late 80s until forever. Where was our cheap parking spot..? Right in front of the Rockingham house. We always called it “park at OJ’s.” As a kid, not realizing that the $20 to park at Paul Revere Middle School (where OJ’s kids attended, and where he famously went to their stage performance the night of the murders, I think) was way worth the money and time it took to walk to the tourney entrance, I always loved that I knew where Buffalo Bill great OJ Simpson lived. 
 

Then the crime happened. The drive we take from the 10 fwy to the golf course goes right by Nicole’s condo and OJ’s mansion. Go freaking figure. 

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