stinky finger Posted April 13 Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: But what are you getting for him? Don’t trade him just to get anything, that’s ludicrous. He’s on a rookie deal at a position of need-that being said he was on the bench, he was inactive, and he was on IR last year…so what could they possibly get for him? His trade value has never been lower and will never be lower So this justifies him taking a roster spot? Time to cut yoUr losses and move on. We made one mistake picking him. Let's not compound it by keeping him. Quote
mikemac2001 Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) Elam gets to much hate he is probably our biggest and most athletic DB and hasn’t looked terrible out there. I wouldn’t be giving him up for pennies he’s 22 years old you always need DBs as well so we would just be drafting a 5th-7th rounder to replace him or signing an old vet no thanks Edited April 13 by mikemac2001 4 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted April 13 Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, stinky finger said: So this justifies him taking a roster spot? Time to cut yoUr losses and move on. We made one mistake picking him. Let's not compound it by keeping him. But he’s not an unrosterable guy. What losses are you cutting? Doesn’t look like he’s a starter but he’s fine for depth. I would much rather have him in the game than Cam Lewis 2 2 Quote
stinky finger Posted April 13 Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: But he’s not an unrosterable guy. What losses are you cutting? Doesn’t look like he’s a starter but he’s fine for depth. I would much rather have him in the game than Cam Lewis Understood. But why limit yourself to those choices. Get someone who will actually contribute. I've seen enough from him. 1 Quote
mikemac2001 Posted April 13 Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Understood. But why limit yourself to those choices. Get someone who will actually contribute. I've seen enough from him. You think he can’t others think he can more then an old vet or late round pick he is our 4th CB right now and our backup outside CB I think is better then other options 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 13 Posted April 13 I want to see what the new DB coach can do with him. 1 Quote
stinky finger Posted April 13 Posted April 13 40 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: You think he can’t others think he can more then an old vet or late round pick he is our 4th CB right now and our backup outside CB I think is better then other options Differing opinion is all. I'll gladly move on from him. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 13 Posted April 13 On 4/12/2024 at 1:00 PM, T master said: I'm hoping that being fully healthy this season & showing some flashes that he has when playing that the switch will turn on & he will become the player they thought he would be & our secondary will be as strong or better for it with him coming around !! I think he'll get better, maybe very good. McD said that he realizes the need to incorporate more man. He said we need to be able to adapt. I didn't know if I'd ever see this from him ever or not, but very encouraged. Quote
BillsFooteball Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) Elam is going to see the field this year. This is it for him in Buffalo. I hope nobody gets injured but guys are going to miss some time. Right now he’s first guy in if Benford or Douglas go down. You are not getting more than a 6th rounder for him. I’ll roll with Elam this year Edited April 13 by BillsFooteball 1 2 Quote
4th&long Posted April 13 Posted April 13 5 hours ago, stinky finger said: Or, in your case, murderers row. He came off the bench. He's a first rounder. You call out one play he made and you say coach him up. He doesn't fit here. I think he something to offer, just not here. Could be. I just don’t see him bringing much a trade. Hopefully whatever the problem is changes but probably wishful thinking. Quote
Nextmanup Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/10/2024 at 11:07 PM, Turbo44 said: Elam and 28 for 33 This is accurate though it is funny reader all these homer/Bills fan comments in this thread. People need to come clean with this kid; he sucks. 1 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) I would package #28 and Baylon Spector to move up to #3 At #3 I would draft Baylon's replacement. Edefuan Ulofoshio Edited April 14 by nedboy7 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted April 14 Posted April 14 15 hours ago, Nextmanup said: This is accurate though it is funny reader all these homer/Bills fan comments in this thread. People need to come clean with this kid; he sucks. Could be. But the Bills invested a first on him for some reason. They hope to recoup the upside of that decision. Makes no sense to dump him for nothing. New DB coach so we shall see. He’s made some plays in limited time he’s been on the field. He was also bad in the Jax game. They have him in the mix this year and I expect to see him on the field a fair amount. If he breaks out great. If not he’s depth. He literally has no value to anyone but the Bills. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted April 14 Posted April 14 23 hours ago, nosejob said: I think he'll get better, maybe very good. McD said that he realizes the need to incorporate more man. He said we need to be able to adapt. I didn't know if I'd ever see this from him ever or not, but very encouraged. And there lies the biggest problem. We should've been transitioning to more man coverage years ago. I'm willing to give Kaiir one more year to improve his zone play. And if he can't accomplish that with a new coach then cut his ass. Quote
nosejob Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: And there lies the biggest problem. We should've been transitioning to more man coverage years ago. I'm willing to give Kaiir one more year to improve his zone play. And if he can't accomplish that with a new coach then cut his ass. I heard McD in a presser saying exactly what I posted. What I heard lead me to believe he feels some innovation on D is in store...and I hope so. He mentioned the need to zig when they think you're zagging. Quote
TOboy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/13/2024 at 1:12 PM, stinky finger said: So this justifies him taking a roster spot? Time to cut yoUr losses and move on. We made one mistake picking him. Let's not compound it by keeping him. If you don’t want him what are the chances he has any value? For all we know the plan is to play more man to man this year making him offer more value. If they’re keeping him they see something. 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/10/2024 at 7:40 PM, Tipster19 said: Here are the 5 worse secondaries from last year ranked. #28 Colts #29 Giants #30 Cardinals #31 Raiders #32 Bears if so it would soften the compensation it would take to move up with any of these teams. How Elam’s value is perceived is something I’d be curious to know. Bad idea. We've already lost White & Jackson. Getting rid of Elam, would only cause another hole to fill. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/10/2024 at 11:38 PM, Beck Water said: I think this is one of these things where, "if you don't think enough of your 2022 1st round pick to play him in in more than half the games, and you're already giving up and willing to trade him, we don't think enough of him that we're willing to give you very much" Fact: Cordy Glenn, who was an established starting LT before previous season injury and IR, moved us up 9 spots from 21 to 12, WITH a same year 5th round pick thrown in (and a 6th back as change). Fact: Brown is not a LT, and a 2025 4th is considered devalued to approximate a 2025 5th. I don't think you're gonna see Brown get you 12 spots. excellent points. Brown has had one passable season on the line. 12 spots in the 1st round is insane. Brown isn't on any teams radar Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 49 minutes ago, nosejob said: I heard McD in a presser saying exactly what I posted. What I heard lead me to believe he feels some innovation on D is in store...and I hope so. He mentioned the need to zig when they think you're zagging. At least that analogy is far better than the one that got him in so much trouble last year. 🤔 Maybe someone teaches McDermott to speak Tamarian? "McDermott, his eyes uncovered! Benford and Elam at Met Life!" 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 14 Posted April 14 I’d rather keep the kid on his rookie contract and hope the new coaching regime on defense can turn him into a viable back up, if not a starter. If they can’t? Bye Felicia, but his trade value currently is about equal to 2024 Sabres playoff tickets. 1 Quote
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