PrimeTime101 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 On 4/9/2024 at 4:20 PM, Gregg said: that video really did the storyline no justice to how we got so many possessions so fast at the end of that game. That should of been a big part of this 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted May 8 Posted May 8 8 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Everyone seems to have overlooked Joe Webb. During Tommy Sherman's Buffalo Bills career, he had a 100% completion record and a 50% TD%. Quote
Eastport bills Posted May 8 Posted May 8 On 4/9/2024 at 3:32 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Best doesn't necessarily mean who produced most. It could. But just overall if you take everything into a player from production to leadership, tenure, great moments, to just likeable..... #1 to me is Frank Reich. He was here the longest and was Kelly's right hand man. Lead the greatest comeback in NFL playoff history. Left on good terms. Reich was a great Bill and always came through when called upon. He authored the greatest comeback ever and got us to the SB when Kelly was injured. That being said, Digg’s performance throughout his 4 years was instrumental in Josh’s development and as good as any receiver during that period. The fact we didn’t get to the big game was not on him. It’s Digg’s #1 and Reich a distant 2nd. Quote
Rampant Buffalo Posted May 8 Posted May 8 22 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: The fact we didn’t get to the big game was not on [Diggs]. Yes it was. The Bills' playoff losses to the Chiefs were generally close games. I don't recall Diggs showing up in any of them. In this most recent defeat, Josh Allen averaged fewer yards per attempt when throwing to Diggs, than Nate Peterman averaged in his worst season in the NFL. It's difficult for a WR to get much worse than that. Comparing Diggs' postseason accomplishments to those of Reich is like comparing a five year old child's crayon drawing to a painting from a great artist. Quote
Eastport bills Posted May 8 Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, Rampant Buffalo said: Yes it was. The Bills' playoff losses to the Chiefs were generally close games. I don't recall Diggs showing up in any of them. In this most recent defeat, Josh Allen averaged fewer yards per attempt when throwing to Diggs, than Nate Peterman averaged in his worst season in the NFL. It's difficult for a WR to get much worse than that. Comparing Diggs' postseason accomplishments to those of Reich is like comparing a five year old child's crayon drawing to a painting from a great artist. Can’t disagree with anything you said, but other than this season where our offense went in a different direction with more runs and spreading the ball around, the other years Davis was open because of Spags doubling Diggs in the 13 second game and our depleted defense was crap against Cinn. You know that Diggs is a top 10 receiver in the NFL and Reich was a great backup. Diggs was more valuable to the team with his separation and overall physicality along with great chemistry with Josh. Quote
Rampant Buffalo Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Can’t disagree with anything you said, but other than this season where our offense went in a different direction with more runs and spreading the ball around, the other years Davis was open because of Spags doubling Diggs in the 13 second game and our depleted defense was crap against Cinn. You know that Diggs is a top 10 receiver in the NFL and Reich was a great backup. Diggs was more valuable to the team with his separation and overall physicality along with great chemistry with Josh. Diggs was targeted 8 times in the most recent playoff loss to the Chiefs. He had 3 receptions for 21 yards. In that game, Josh Allen averaged 2.6 yards per attempt when throwing to Diggs. Trent Edwards has a career average of 6.5 yards per attempt, and Losman's average is 6.6. Diggs' 2.6 yards per attempt is the kind of number that loses you the game. It's not as though he had decent performances in other playoff games against the Chiefs or Bengals, to offset his truly horrible performance this last time around. We remember players differently, based on how they play in the biggest games of the year. Joe Montana played well in all four Super Bowl appearances, and his team won all four. With the exception of part of the Redskins game, Jim Kelly did not play well in his four Super Bowl appearances, and his team lost all four. Today, Joe Montana is remembered as a significantly better quarterback than Jim Kelly. At least Jim Kelly played well in playoff games to be able to get to the Super Bowl. Diggs didn't even do that. Diggs achieved very little in the playoffs, and virtually nothing in playoff games against the Chiefs or Bengals. He was a hero in September and October, no question. But he was also a guy who, come January, has your team saying, "Maybe next year." Unlike Diggs, Reich actually did something in the postseason. And not just any old something. The greatest comeback in NFL history. If you believe great players play their best in the biggest games, Reich was better than Diggs. Edited May 9 by Rampant Buffalo Quote
Eastport bills Posted May 9 Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, Rampant Buffalo said: Diggs was targeted 8 times in the most recent playoff loss to the Chiefs. He had 3 receptions for 21 yards. In that game, Josh Allen averaged 2.6 yards per attempt when throwing to Diggs. Trent Edwards has a career average of 6.5 yards per attempt, and Losman's average is 6.6. Diggs' 2.6 yards per attempt is the kind of number that loses you the game. It's not as though he had decent performances in other playoff games against the Chiefs or Bengals, to offset his truly horrible performance this last time around. We remember players differently, based on how they play in the biggest games of the year. Joe Montana played well in all four Super Bowl appearances, and his team won all four. With the exception of part of the Redskins game, Jim Kelly did not play well in his four Super Bowl appearances, and his team lost all four. Today, Joe Montana is remembered as a significantly better quarterback than Jim Kelly. At least Jim Kelly played well in playoff games to be able to get to the Super Bowl. Diggs didn't even do that. Diggs achieved very little in the playoffs, and virtually nothing in playoff games against the Chiefs or Bengals. He was a hero in September and October, no question. But he was also a guy who, come January, has your team saying, "Maybe next year." Unlike Diggs, Reich actually did something in the postseason. And not just any old something. The greatest comeback in NFL history. If you believe great players play their best in the biggest games, Reich was better than Diggs. The question was who was the best #14? As bad as Diggs performed in the postseason, he’s still recognized as one of the top 10 receivers in football. Reich was a good backup that had 3 good games in relief of the starter. You want to go on and on with statistical reasoning why Diggs was a no show in the postseason, point taken. He’s still the best #14. Quote
Rampant Buffalo Posted May 9 Posted May 9 6 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: The question was who was the best #14? As bad as Diggs performed in the postseason, he’s still recognized as one of the top 10 receivers in football. Reich was a good backup that had 3 good games in relief of the starter. You want to go on and on with statistical reasoning why Diggs was a no show in the postseason, point taken. He’s still the best #14. I divide a player's performance into two categories: 1) Regular season performance, and 2) Postseason performance. For category 1), Diggs is a lot better than Reich. For category 2), Reich is miles better than Diggs. It's up to each of us how we want to weight those two categories. Quote
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