billieve420 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Diggs was voted a team captain.. never said one bad thing about the City of Buffalo or the organization Came to practice every day and played his butt off for 4 years The media drummed up his diva status and helped drive him out of town... There's been nothing but smear pieces about him for the last 2 years The national media and pundits drove him out of Buffalo by highlighting this narrative day in and day out for 2 years He certainly never went to the podium and said I want to leave or anything bad about Buffalo.. never not once What he was was hyper competitive Yes I believe some of this is true. Diggs is hyper competitive and felt the championship window was passing by them. I think he got to a point where he didn't feel that this team would be able to get over the hump. Diggs would rather be in Houston closer to this brother in a place where the party scene is better. I think Diggs tolerated Buffalo to a point and was good if team was winning championships. In turn I think the team got tired of having to endure Digg's antics behind the scenes with his drop in production and decided to part ways. Dawkins seems to allude to issues with Allen not being in the best mindset the previous season due to issues I imagine related to his Ex-GF. I think those issues came to a head against the Bengals in that playoff game where Diggs went off on Allen from the sidelines. https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-hailee-steinfeld-love-dion-dawkins/ Edited April 5 by billieve420 2 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Josh Allen has very little input on this team don’t kid yourself or he would have been hammering them to get him more help years ago. Brandon Beane works for Terry Pegula. It’s more than likely Terry Pegula approved this trade. The media basically does what Terry Pegula tells them since Brandon Beane is just Pegulas mouthpiece. 1 2 Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: When last year? After he got suplex by sauce Gardner? Went on the injury report for a back injury And never played the same the rest of the year cuz he was clearly hurt He clearly was hampered the last part of the season last year... And that back injury that he was on the report for definitely didn't clear up in a week or two And the previous three seasons he literally ate all pro cornerbacks for lunch Having a hard time believing folks still want to defend this guy tbh From the sound of it he was trying to get out for 2years now and destroying the locker room on his way Notice how nobody is speaking up for him on the roster? 1 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted April 5 Posted April 5 15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Being frustrated that you didn't win... Is different than publicly destroying or criticizing your team Can you bring up a link.. with diggs , actually criticizing the bills organization? Calling it a bad place to play? Or they don't know what they're doing? Or I'm carrying this franchise? Or was it just frustration that every single athlete shows... Did diggs go on Twitter or to the national media and say I'm done with Buffalo? I can't play here anymore? Or anything like that I think going out of his way to go on different shows and podcasts expressing his unhappiness with the team was destructive behavior. It went beyond expressing frustration that we couldn't win, he was specifically criticizing the organization. No I'm not going to back and find those interviews, it's impossible to find anything on the internet that's over a year old. It was discussed on here at the time. Anyways it's now obvious that the organization agreed his behavior was destructive because they just gave him away and took on a larger cap hit to do it. The debate is over. Diggs' behavior was unprofessional and counterproductive. 1 Quote
PBF81 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, krf139 said: It highlights how many of these folks care far more about maintaining relationships/access to the players than holistically reporting what's going on with the team - especially a week 1 incident involving a player who was the talk of the offseason It's unfortunate we don't have media members covering the team who we can trust. I can only wonder what will continue to come out about the Diggs situation, or what would come out about McDermott re: 13 seconds if he gets fired. Given the lack of candor and extreme secrecy regarding responsibility for massive failures from this staff, you're just coming to this conclusion now? 🤔 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Having a hard time believing folks still want to defend this guy tbh From the sound of it he was trying to get out for 2years now and destroying the locker room on his way Notice how nobody is speaking up for him on the roster? I have been adamant this whole time that I am not going to piss on him on his way out The dude did a lot of charity work in Buffalo I'm not saying he's a saint... I'm not adding to the piss party... So I'll defend him against that 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think going out of his way to go on different shows and podcasts expressing his unhappiness with the team was destructive behavior. It went beyond expressing frustration that we couldn't win, he was specifically criticizing the organization. No I'm not going to back and find those interviews, it's impossible to find anything on the internet that's over a year old. It was discussed on here at the time. Anyways it's now obvious that the organization agreed his behavior was destructive because they just gave him away and took on a larger cap hit to do it. The debate is over. Diggs' behavior was unprofessional and counterproductive. Listen... I understand it The NFL is a business... What I have been adamant about Is I'm not going to piss on a player who did try hard on the field and also did charity work in the Buffalo community If he was skipping practice and games and drunk driving I would have no problem ripping him a new one Quote
PBF81 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 47 minutes ago, Beast said: But a lot were after the last 10 horrendous games of his Buffalo career. It's unimaginable that he fell off from one game to the next as the narrative suggests. In fact, that's a fool's take. Barring an injury, and throughout NFL history, that's not the way diminishing play works. Quote
Peter Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, krf139 said: Lost in the Diggs news of this week is how wrong the Buffalo media have been about Diggs over the past year: - WGR hosts routinely dismissed callers who raised Diggs' behavior as an issue - Team beat reporters took pride in pushing back on the national narrative that Diggs was an issue and could be traded. They would boast about how they're local, on the ground and more tuned into the team. They'd highlight the cap hit and claim that anyone from the national media who suggested a Diggs trade didn't understand the cap implications. They loved going on national shows to tell everyone how much they know about the team and how the national narrative about a Diggs issue was wrong and potential trade wasn't happening. Matt Bove even tweeted that Diggs wasn't getting traded literally less than 10 minutes before the trade was reported - Tim Graham (who I previously thought was one of the few good ones) is now reporting how Allen snapped at Diggs after the Week 1 loss to the Jets. It's such a disservice and somewhat disingenuous to withhold information like this until he's gone. It highlights how many of these folks care far more about maintaining relationships/access to the players than holistically reporting what's going on with the team - especially a week 1 incident involving a player who was the talk of the offseason It's unfortunate we don't have media members covering the team who we can trust. I can only wonder what will continue to come out about the Diggs situation, or what would come out about McDermott re: 13 seconds if he gets fired. Now I know who some of the posters are on this site. 😀 Quote
PBF81 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Josh Allen has very little input on this team don’t kid yourself or he would have been hammering them to get him more help years ago. Brandon Beane works for Terry Pegula. It’s more than likely Terry Pegula approved this trade. The media basically does what Terry Pegula tells them since Brandon Beane is just Pegulas mouthpiece. It's more likely that Beane works for McD practically speaking, but reports to Pegula formally, with McD working for Pegula more directly. Beane was hired on McD's recommendation. We now have an ongoing conflict-of-interests. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I have been adamant this whole time that I am not going to piss on him on his way out The dude did a lot of charity work in Buffalo I'm not saying he's a saint... I'm not adding to the piss party... So I'll defend him against that Listen... I understand it The NFL is a business... What I have been adamant about Is I'm not going to piss on a player who did try hard on the field and also did charity work in the Buffalo community If he was skipping practice and games and drunk driving I would have no problem ripping him a new one Ok then if your threshold for criticizing a player is that they benefited local charities then good on you because right now it looks like the guy was either directly or indirectly responsible for ruining chemistry in the locker room couple of tax deductions arent enough to buy my good graces after that Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 5 Posted April 5 52 minutes ago, krf139 said: I don’t view Allen snapping at Diggs as a “little thing” considering the offseason drama, mandatory minicamp issue, etc. Graham says he wishes he reported it at the time, so maybe this will be a lesson for him. I would consider it a small thing in the moment. A teammate snaps at another after an emotional upsetting loss? That would be, I would think fairly routine. Definitely an incident that would warrant a "raised eye" and see if the trend continues before pretending to be a TMZ "journalist" and making it public knowledge. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Ok then if your threshold for criticizing a player is that they benefited local charities then good on you because right now it looks like the guy was either directly or indirectly responsible for ruining chemistry in the locker room couple of tax deductions arent enough to buy my good graces after that No, he was a really good football player... A top three AFC wide receiver in his stint here Help the team and Josh Allen develop And he did stuff in the community All of those reasons combined I will not piss on him on the way out People can let the media influence them... But I'm only going by what he did on the field and what he said at the podium He was that bad for years then why didn't they get rid of him sooner... Why did beane extend him if he was a problem That would make Brandon Beane questionable if he gave all this money with dead cap to a player that he knew was a male content I would like to think this was something small that just got bigger this past season if anything Because the bills don't look good if they extended a male content Quote
HappyDays Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: When last year? After he got suplex by sauce Gardner? Went on the injury report for a back injury No. I reported this in the original Diggs trade thread: Quote You know what, now is a good time to spill the beans on what I was told earlier this year - In the home Patriots game, Diggs chose to sit out the first drive of the 2nd half because he was upset with Allen's play in the 1st half. It wasn't an injury or part of the game plan. He decided to screw over his team and sit out a drive because he couldn't get over himself. I suspect other stories like this will come out in the coming days. A couple aren't mine to tell. Guy was a total headcase and a major distraction in more ways than one. He really was just a distraction and a nuisance. Why do you think we are paying more to get him off the team? You think Beane is just buying into media rumors? Edited April 5 by HappyDays Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: It's more likely that Beane works for McD practically speaking, but reports to Pegula formally, with McD working for Pegula more directly. Beane was hired on McD's recommendation. We now have an ongoing conflict-of-interests. I think you’re right … Terry Pegula is one of the wealthiest owners in sports if he wanted to he could can Beane and McDermott and start from scratch and not lose any sleep but it’s clear Mcdermott and Pegula wanted Diggs gone and Beane is just the guy dealing with the media. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: No. I reported this in the original Diggs trade thread: He really was just a distraction and a nuisance. Why do you think we are paying more to get off the team? You think Beane is just buying into media rumors? No but media rumors can make a player who's already emotional actually go over the edge The first rule of being a pro athlete is to not listen to the media and to keep your head out of it... 95% of athletes don't follow that now Diggs 100% Google's and Twitter's his name everyday and reads every piece of news about him.. for the positive and negative it absolutely will affect a very sensitive and emotional person like Stef Beane... Also gave an extension to somebody who he knew was highly emotional... So the bills are not home free in this If he was such a bad teammate... And such a nuisance... Why not get rid of him sooner... We could have got more last offseason... If he had all these red flags.. why give an extension to somebody with all these red flags Brandon Bean should be highly accountable then because according to everybody here it didn't come out of nowhere.. So Brandon Bean should be highly accountable for giving a emotional wreck that kind of deal knowing all the red flags... And if it's gotten really bad... He could have gotten rid of him last year for more So we held on to a malecontent... And voted him team captain... And let him almost ruin the locker room That's also very stupid Quote
ClemsonBills Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Diggs was voted a team captain.. never said one bad thing about the City of Buffalo or the organization Came to practice every day and played his butt off for 4 years The media drummed up his diva status and helped drive him out of town... There's been nothing but smear pieces about him for the last 2 years The national media and pundits drove him out of Buffalo by highlighting this narrative day in and day out for 2 years He certainly never went to the podium and said I want to leave or anything bad about Buffalo.. never not once What he was was hyper competitive What’s your take on his last tweet? Kinda curious. (Before leaving Buffalo) Edited April 5 by ClemsonBills Quote
Warcodered Posted April 5 Posted April 5 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No. I reported this in the original Diggs trade thread: He really was just a distraction and a nuisance. Why do you think we are paying more to get off the team? You think Beane is just buying into media rumors? I mean if that's true that story alone pretty much feels like enough for them to want him off the team, because that's an insane thing to do in a game that could essentially determine if we make the playoffs or not with only a 6 point lead. 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 47 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Buffalo is a small city in a large market game. I think the media in this town feel a need to play nice to retain access to the team. The media in larger markets have always been more harsh, and not afraid to ruffle feathers. Buffalo media has been an extension of OBD for decades by default. A good deal of the fanbase was brainwashed into thinking the drought years weren’t so bad. Who thought that!? LOL Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Just now, ClemsonBills said: What’s your take on his last tweet? Kinda curious. He said he made Josh Allen Probably after he was told he's getting shipped lol it's not the coolest thing to say but it's really not the end of the world He did help Josh Allen develop a lot... Leaps and bounds... Do I think he would have said that if he knew he was coming back next year? No And that's not calling him trash... How many times did he sit at the podium and say this is the best quarterback in the world Quote
Beast Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 36 minutes ago, PBF81 said: It's unimaginable that he fell off from one game to the next as the narrative suggests. In fact, that's a fool's take. Barring an injury, and throughout NFL history, that's not the way diminishing play works. So, are you saying he was injured? How so? Was he injured when he actually beat the KC defender deep and the ball went through his hands? Edited April 5 by Beast Quote
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