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24 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I agree and tried to make that clear.

Apologies!  it read to me more like “Watkins repeat would be a mistake”. I think if a rookie with the quality of Watkins came into this team it’s a great grab.  If Nabers doesn’t have the injuries Watkins does, with Allen?  I’d think we get someone closer to a Chase tier impact 

 

 

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So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 

8. trade back from pick 28, pick up an extra 3rd and probably pick from the same group in scenario 4 except maybe mitchell and double up on WR in 3rd or 4th round

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7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 


we can do 1 or 3 & 6.
 

Please & Thank you. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about a deal with NYG at 6 that substitues a couple players for picks? 

 

28

128 

2025 1st

S. Brown (maybe equivalent to late 2)

K. Elam (maybe equivalent to a 4th) 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 


I’d guess there’s a good chance of 1 or 3 actually happening

Posted
35 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:

It seems like most people on this board think the key to getting past the Chiefs and to the SB is "more offense".  A case can be made for more defense too.  As we have painfully seen, one or two key plays on defense can also be the difference in those tight games.

While I do agree, I look at all the available defensive players in this draft and just don't see any players that I envision making those plays. The ways I see the stars aligning I think this is the year to reload the offense mainly.

Posted
2 hours ago, Logic said:


In all seriousness...

If you can make this exact trade happen, I'll get a deluxe manicure, give you my home address, and cook you lobster tails beforehand.

Terry is my buddy so make the appointment!  Bahaha

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I posted this in another thread. I think it's worth hearing again. Here it is:

 

Quick question: What do these players have in common? Kevin White, Corey Davis, Mike Williams (from Clemson to the Chargers), John Ross, Drake London and Sammy Watkins?

 

All WRs chosen in the top ten picks in the last ten years.

 

We tend to think "a top ten guy, he'll be a Ja'Marr Chase." And that ain't necessarily so. There are some very good WRs chosen in the top ten of those same drafts. But more who never justified the pick.

 

For those curious, here are all the rest of the top ten in those ten years:  Chase, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Garrett Wilson, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans. That's five terrific players, one pretty damn good one in Smith and again, Kevin White, Corey Davis, Mike Williams (from Clemson to the Chargers), John Ross, Drake London and Sammy Watkins.

 

That's why you don't make such massive trade-ups unless you're doing it for a franchise QB. GMs tend to get carried away by their surety in their own abilities. And that's fools gold. Very very very few are genuine sure things. That's why Massey and Thaler and all of their inheritors say what they say. The data says tradeups that big are desperate, not to be made except for a franchise QB, as drafting a possible franchise QB is worth the prospect of a possible catastrophic failure, because you pretty much can't win without one.

 

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8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

I posted this in another thread. I think it's worth hearing again. Here it is:

 

Quick question: What do these players have in common? Kevin White, Corey Davis, Mike Williams (from Clemson to the Chargers), John Ross, Drake London and Sammy Watkins?

 

All WRs chosen in the top ten picks in the last ten years.

 

We tend to think "a top ten guy, he'll be a Ja'Marr Chase." And that ain't necessarily so. There are some very good WRs chosen in the top ten of those same drafts. But more who never justified the pick.

 

For those curious, here are all the rest of the top ten in those ten years:  Chase, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Garrett Wilson, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans. That's five terrific players, one pretty damn good one in Smith and again, Kevin White, Corey Davis, Mike Williams (from Clemson to the Chargers), John Ross, Drake London and Sammy Watkins.

 

That's why you don't make such massive trade-ups unless you're doing it for a franchise QB. GMs tend to get carried away by their surety in their own abilities. And that's fools gold. Very very very few are genuine sure things. That's why Massey and Thaler and all of their inheritors say what they say. The data says tradeups that big are desperate, not to be made except for a franchise QB, as drafting a possible franchise QB is worth the prospect of a possible catastrophic failure, because you pretty much can't win without one.

 

Um, Mike Williams, when healthy (which is most of the time), has been very good. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillMi07.htm

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Gotta draft Steel Chambers just for the name.  Looks decent athletically.  May need to raise his football IQ to have a regular role on defense in the NFL.

Posted
21 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 

8. trade back from pick 28, pick up an extra 3rd and probably pick from the same group in scenario 4 except maybe mitchell and double up on WR in 3rd or 4th round

 

#3 is a big overpay - I hope we don't do that. 5/6/7 get us in a salary situation that I think Beane is hesitant to sign up for. 

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22 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 

8. trade back from pick 28, pick up an extra 3rd and probably pick from the same group in scenario 4 except maybe mitchell and double up on WR in 3rd or 4th round


What about MHjr? 

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22 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

So hypothetically we’re looking at: 

1. Nabers for Pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st round, 2025 2nd round 

2. Odunze for pick 28, 2024 4th rounder, 2025 1st rounder

3. Thomas Jr for pick 28, 4th rounder, 2025 2nd rounder

4. stay put at 28 and take Mitchell, Franklin, Worthy, Leggette, or McConkey

5. trade pick 28 and a 4th for Aiyuk

6. trade pick 60 and 2025 2nd rounder for Metcalf 

7. trade pick 28 and next years 1st for Higgins 

8. trade back from pick 28, pick up an extra 3rd and probably pick from the same group in scenario 4 except maybe mitchell and double up on WR in 3rd or 4th round

#3 or #4 are my choices.

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