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5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Kincaid is nice.  Cook is nice.  Shakir is rising.

We need speed and explosive playmaking.    

 

We added some good explosiveness in Samuel  (1 of the fastest players within a few yards per analytics) 

Nabers is DYNAMITE.   His acceleration looks other worldly.  He goes from 0-100 in 2 steps.  On his routes, his change of direction, stop and start is elite

 

Would be thrilled to get him 

Agreed. One of the most explosive players I've seen in recent memory. I don't know what those guys are eating in Louisiana, but it's working.

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I really hope that's not the plan.  This appears to be one of the deepest WR drafts in several years.  There's no need to bet the farm on one guy.  They'd be better off taking WRs at 28 and 60,  or perhaps making a small move up the board from one of those two picks.   Regardless.  I'd like to see them keep those three picks in the first two rounds next year.  

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I think Beane will now try to move up for one of the top four receivers (I include Thomas). Maybe you don't have to wreck your draft to nab one of them. They are all worth a move up so there is no need to focus only on Nabors.  Mitchell would be worth a smaller move up if a deal can't be made for one of the others and they are off the board. 

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FWIW, I’ve heard that the Bills LOVE Nabers. Obviously he has star potential. Personally, I prefer Harrison and Odunze but each could be great. 
 

I’m confident that the Bills will be targeting one of those 3. We will see if there’s a deal to be had.

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5 hours ago, Logic said:


I hear you, but also...

Jim Harbaugh. Greg Roman.

It wouldn't surprise me to see them take a top tackle and get a receiver later. The coach and OC both strike me as old school "trenches before weapons" guys.

I've already used up my allotment of positive emojis on you in this thread. This is correct. Character is destiny. I think it's at least a plausible happening. I like the double dip with Mitchell/Legette and McConkey. I would do that, and honestly, it's the feasible path I hope for, because I doubt we end up with one of the top 3. But if this option really does become possible, you have to take your shot. I think Nabers is a future superstar, and he would open up the entire offense. It's an exponential add.

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9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

FWIW, I’ve heard that the Bills LOVE Nabers. Obviously he has star potential. Personally, I prefer Harrison and Odunze but each could be great. 
 

I’m confident that the Bills will be targeting one of those 3. We will see if there’s a deal to be had.


Thanks for this nugget.

Allen also mentioned him first when recently asked about WRs in this year's draft. He seemed pretty knowledgeable about the class, and Nabers was the first name out of his mouth. He wanted Kincaid last year. Obviously, circumstances are quite different this year with Nabers being expected to go so high, but...we shall see.

I think Joe Schoen at 5 would be the perfect trade partner. Failing that, the Bears at 9 seem very logical, too, should Odunze fall that far.

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7 hours ago, Logic said:


I understand your point of view.

Personally, I think we've seen what it's like to have a bunch of good to above average players and not enough GREAT players on the roster. It gets us to the Divisional round, and then we lose to a team with more GREAT players.

Me? I want more GREAT players around Josh Allen, and Nabers has the potential for greatness.

Give me one elite, blue chip playmaker with the potential for GREATNESS over a handful of potentially GOOD players, all day long and twice on Sundays.

Agree 100%

 

For This season:

Kincaid - Top 10 TE potential 

Cook - Top 10 RB potential 

Shakir - Top 10 potential as WR2 or WR3(if we draft a stud)

 

Is that being too optimistic?

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I don't know Nabers up-side but I think Thomas could be a legit number 1 for us.

And today I'm circling back to thinking that Mitchell could be the guy and not involve a trade-up, or a very small one. Especially if we get a vet like Thomas, I can see Mitchell being eased into the role.


No vet signing, to me, signifies they need a more pro-ready guy like Thomas and that's a trade up to the teens, I think. Don't expect a trade to 10-12 but Beane has surprised us before — and recently.

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8 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Agree 100%

 

For This season:

Kincaid - Top 10 TE potential 

Cook - Top 10 RB potential 

Shakir - Top 10 potential as WR2 or WR3(if we draft a stud)

 

Is that being too optimistic?


I don't think the Kincaid and Cook outlooks are too optimistic. Cook already WAS statistically a top 10 running back last year, and Kincaid has the look of a year two breakout star.

I like Shakir a lot, but it could be argued that that's the only one on your list that might be a bit optimistic, if only because I expect Curtis Samuel and a soon-to-be-signed vet WR to eat up some of his opportunities.

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16 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

I don't know Nabers up-side but I think Thomas could be a legit number 1 for us.

And today I'm circling back to thinking that Mitchell could be the guy and not involve a trade-up, or a very small one. Especially if we get a vet like Thomas, I can see Mitchell being eased into the role.


No vet signing, to me, signifies they need a more pro-ready guy like Thomas and that's a trade up to the teens, I think. Don't expect a trade to 10-12 but Beane has surprised us before — and recently.

I think that his upside is “best WR in football.” All 3 of the top guys in this draft have that ceiling. They have HOF potential. Obviously, we are a LONG way from that but that’s where their skills are. 

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Nabers is so good he might get drafted before MHJ. It would be a shock but not crazy.

Honestly I can make a case for a move like this or just sitting tight. Giving up next year's #1 just to get a WR at 18 makes little sense. Either go big or just sit tight and take a WR at 28. 

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