Kirby Jackson Posted November 5 Posted November 5 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: It’s my eyes, not my heart. Shakir is a more explosive athlete with better burst and natural make you miss ability. Think what you like. Shakir is special with the ball in his hands in the open field. I too agree that he’s special with the ball in his hands. He’s been great after the catch. There are just miles to go to get to what Hines Ward did, consistently for 14 seasons. Quote
NewEra Posted November 5 Posted November 5 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I too agree that he’s special with the ball in his hands. He’s been great after the catch. There are just miles to go to get to what Hines Ward did, consistently for 14 seasons. But being consistent for 14 seasons has nothing to do with my comment. If Shakir got hurt and his yac ability took a huge hit then my take on the matter would change. But as it stands, Shakir’s yac skills are better than Hines ward. And it doesn’t matter how long he’s done it or will do. I’m talking about Shakir’s current ability 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 hours ago, NewEra said: But being consistent for 14 seasons has nothing to do with my comment. If Shakir got hurt and his yac ability took a huge hit then my take on the matter would change. But as it stands, Shakir’s yac skills are better than Hines ward. And it doesn’t matter how long he’s done it or will do. I’m talking about Shakir’s current ability We are NEVER going to agree on the this. Being very good after the catch for 91 catches is totally different than being really good after the catch for 1000 catches. Khalil Shakir needs 5-6 more years at this current rate for me to even consider putting him in the conversation with a borderline HOFer with the same skill set. At any rate, I think this speaks to how good Shakir has been and is also terrifying about the sustainability of this level of play: Quote
NewEra Posted November 5 Posted November 5 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: We are NEVER going to agree on the this. Being very good after the catch for 91 catches is totally different than being really good after the catch for 1000 catches. Khalil Shakir needs 5-6 more years at this current rate for me to even consider putting him in the conversation with a borderline HOFer with the same skill set. At any rate, I think this speaks to how good Shakir has been and is also terrifying about the sustainability of this level of play: I’m not trying to get you agree with me. I made a statement- you disagreed with it. I’m ok with that 👍🏻 3 Quote
ToGoGo Posted November 5 Posted November 5 25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: We are NEVER going to agree on the this. Being very good after the catch for 91 catches is totally different than being really good after the catch for 1000 catches. Khalil Shakir needs 5-6 more years at this current rate for me to even consider putting him in the conversation with a borderline HOFer with the same skill set. At any rate, I think this speaks to how good Shakir has been and is also terrifying about the sustainability of this level of play: I think the comp for Shakir is more Golden Tate than Hines Ward. Which would still be amazing. Quote
notpolian Posted November 5 Posted November 5 I am late to this thread, and I don't study all 22 or that stuff. I think Shakir has an amazing catch percentage at a respectable volume. I also think he is our best YAC receiver. He tries hard every freaking play. This may be a questionable comp, but Shakir is like Craig Ramsay was back in the day for the Sabres. Not the best player in the league, but my friends and I used to say if you had a team full of Craig Ramsay's, you'd never lose a game. I feel the same way about Shakir. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5 Posted November 5 6 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I think the comp for Shakir is more Golden Tate than Hines Ward. Which would still be amazing. That’s an interesting one to me. Tate might have been more explosive but feel like Shakir has better contact balance. Tate had a 4 year span where he was really good (averaged over 95 catches and like 1100 yards I think). I also think he was kind of an idiot if memory serves me correctly. Shakir feels like a future captain. If Shakir can be the player of prime Tate with his current attitude/leadership he will be a key piece of the team for many years. 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted November 5 Posted November 5 We can get this thread up to one hundred pages if we all pitch n, 😁👍🍸🚬 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Guy is regressing. Only 67% catch rate today. 😉 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 18 Posted November 18 He’s the new Edelman. But not a douche. 2 1 3 1 Quote
Búfalo Blanco Posted November 18 Posted November 18 On 4/4/2024 at 8:26 PM, Búfalo Blanco said: I'll definitely agree with you on this one, Alphadawg... Shakir was my favorite Bills breakout last season and he didn't take off quite like I thought he would, but there were glimpses.. especially once Brady took over. Great analysis. Quote
Spiderweb Posted November 18 Posted November 18 On 11/5/2024 at 12:26 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I too agree that he’s special with the ball in his hands. He’s been great after the catch. There are just miles to go to get to what Hines Ward did, consistently for 14 seasons. Hines Ward was rough and bigger, Shakir is small but very quick. They aren't comparable, vastly different types Quote
transient Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, Spiderweb said: Hines Ward was rough and bigger, Shakir is small but very quick. They aren't comparable, vastly different types Depending on where you look, Hines Ward was listed as 6’ 205. Shakir is listed as 5’11”-6’ and between 190-195. Quote
folz Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Shakir's current stats are: 56 recs on 66 targets for 599 yards and 2 TDs. 85% catch rate. 460 YAC (almost 77% of his yards are YAC...that's crazy). 26 first downs. He is currently 10th among WRs for receptions and 18th among WRs for receiving yards (despite being 23rd in number of targets for WRs---the top 12 WRs, for instance, all have between 80-108 targets, compared to Khalil's 66). Shakir is currently 3rd in the league in YAC: 1. Chase 481 yards (on 100 targets), 2. Kamara 466 yards (on 73 targets), and 3. Shakir 460 yards (on 66 targets). Khalil's projected season totals after week 11 are: 1,018 yards from scrimmage, 4 TDs, and 40 first downs. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 18 Posted November 18 5 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Elite RAC today. He does so much MORE than what Beasley used to do. Talk about an amazing 90% catch rate "emergency valve" for Josh. 2 Quote
Comebackkid Posted November 18 Posted November 18 On 11/2/2024 at 9:55 PM, Shaw66 said: Loved Woods. I don't think Shakir is at that level, but Woods is another guy who's more or less equal to Shakir's upside. woods was a great story and loveable guy but all i remember about his time in buffalo was being injured and falling down a lot. Not sure what to think about his avg depth of target..on one hand im sure it helps him hide a bit maybe?..but man it sure makes a guy work for his yardage. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 10 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Elite RAC today. Yes but also his 10 yard catch on 3rd and 9 where he was popped while catching the ball was incredible. I think most of us are amazed that he held onto that one. 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Gotta say that TD catch and run was such an amazing displaying of burst, speed, strength and balance. He’s got game breaking RAC. In a way, it reminds me of a skinny Deebo Samuel 1 Quote
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