Calling it now: You're all about to witness the arrival of Shakir

[Figster]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I have also been consistently right.

You did say 2024

[Maine-iac]

59 minutes ago, Figster said:

Reading some of your earlier comments on Shakir you have stayed consistent. I'll give you that...

 

70% of the board voted Shakir would not become the Bills #2 in 2023

I definitely remember that thread.  I also forgot how much some people loved Hyatt coming out.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

He’s a nice player.

 

The most dependable, reliable, consistent WR on the Bills.

 

The Front Office spent a minimal asset like they usually do at WR, a 5th Round pick, and have gotten a nice return on that investment.

 

This is not an arrival, this is not the makings of an Antonio Brown 6th Rounder who becomes the best WR in the NFL, this is not going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league, this is not a All Pro player, this is not a legend, this is not a household name outside of Buffalo, this is not a generational talent. He is a nice player. A piece on a Playoff roster. 
 

Golf clap for Beane. Shakir and Gabe Davis are the only WRs that have stuck on this roster for multiple years. Again, mainly due to the fact that this organization values WR on average in the 5th Round. 

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

He’s a nice player.

 

The most dependable, reliable, consistent WR on the Bills.

 

The Front Office spent a minimal asset like they usually do at WR, a 5th Round pick, and have gotten a nice return on that investment.

 

This is not an arrival, this is not the makings of an Antonio Brown 6th Rounder who becomes the best WR in the NFL, this is not going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league, this is not a All Pro player, this is not a legend, this is not a household name outside of Buffalo, this is not a generational talent. He is a nice player. A piece on a Playoff roster. 
 

Golf clap for Beane. Shakir and Gabe Davis are the only WRs that have stuck on this roster for multiple years. Again, mainly due to the fact that this organization values WR on average in the 5th Round. 

 

 

 

Actually, Shakir is very highly respected outside of Buffalo and around the league, not just as a "nice" player, but as a very good player.  And no one player is going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league in Buffalo, not in this style of offense where they run a balanced offense and spread the ball around in a true "everybody eats" fashion that isn't going away regardless of who is on the roster.  He is the kind of player coaches covet, dont be fooled by the fact that he may not be the most coveted guy in fantasy football...had Shakir hit the FA market he would have had a lot of suitors and gotten noticeably more money.  

[Figster]

17 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

He’s a nice player.

 

The most dependable, reliable, consistent WR on the Bills.

 

The Front Office spent a minimal asset like they usually do at WR, a 5th Round pick, and have gotten a nice return on that investment.

 

This is not an arrival, this is not the makings of an Antonio Brown 6th Rounder who becomes the best WR in the NFL, this is not going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league, this is not a All Pro player, this is not a legend, this is not a household name outside of Buffalo, this is not a generational talent. He is a nice player. A piece on a Playoff roster. 
 

Golf clap for Beane. Shakir and Gabe Davis are the only WRs that have stuck on this roster for multiple years. Again, mainly due to the fact that this organization values WR on average in the 5th Round. 

 

 

Only 3 WR's have a higher catch rate value in the NFL in 2024 then Shakir and at one time he led the league in catch %

 

Nice? thats all you got?

 

I do agree however on the 5th round point. 

Edited February 26 by Figster

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Actually, Shakir is very highly respected outside of Buffalo and around the league, not just as a "nice" player, but as a very good player.  And no one player is going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league in Buffalo, not in this style of offense where they run a balanced offense and spread the ball around in a true "everybody eats" fashion that isn't going away regardless of who is on the roster.  He is the kind of player coaches covet, dont be fooled by the fact that he may not be the most coveted guy in fantasy football...had Shakir hit the FA market he would have had a lot of suitors and gotten noticeably more money.  

Ok man. 
 

Hopefully this thread gets dug up in 10-years.

[Figster]

20 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Ok man. 
 

Hopefully this thread gets dug up in 10-years.

Deal,

 

You voted no on Shakir ever becoming #2 in 2023 /poll.

 

How did that work out?

Edited February 26 by Figster

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I also always thought it was a given that the Bills would extend him. I didn't think it was a given that extending him was a good idea but I said in multiple places if you could get him at $15m AAV then it was a good idea. And the Bills have. Details to come but I think the Bills won this deal and Khalil took a bit less for a chance to stay here and (as you rightly say Alpha) the security of a deal that pays a former 5th rounder life changing money. 

why would anyone want to leave Josh and the Bills honestly.

sidebar , thats why Cook seems the dk. full stop

 

I am seriously delighted about this deal. Its great for both of them. Did not consider it a contest that one side would/ should /could win ??
Kid is a great fit in Bills uni and a blessing we kept him with a very pleasant for all contract

 Gunner you might be getting old and grumpy a tad .

Luv ya Bill 😋

31 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

He’s a nice player.

 

The most dependable, reliable, consistent WR on the Bills.

 

The Front Office spent a minimal asset like they usually do at WR, a 5th Round pick, and have gotten a nice return on that investment.

 

This is not an arrival, this is not the makings of an Antonio Brown 6th Rounder who becomes the best WR in the NFL, this is not going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league, this is not a All Pro player, this is not a legend, this is not a household name outside of Buffalo, this is not a generational talent. He is a nice player. A piece on a Playoff roster. 
 

Golf clap for Beane. Shakir and Gabe Davis are the only WRs that have stuck on this roster for multiple years. Again, mainly due to the fact that this organization values WR on average in the 5th Round. 

 

 

Davis kinda was not a huge help to Josh and the offense though and we kept him too long for too much. Mistake imo

Shakir is the polar opposite.

Not a star nor was that the intention, mostly due to position skill set ( inside )

 He is Proven Very Good to Elite at what he does.

 

Now about that outside speed hands receiver Beane has forgotten about  

🧐

[Figster]

25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Actually, Shakir is very highly respected outside of Buffalo and around the league, not just as a "nice" player, but as a very good player.  And no one player is going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league in Buffalo, not in this style of offense where they run a balanced offense and spread the ball around in a true "everybody eats" fashion that isn't going away regardless of who is on the roster.  He is the kind of player coaches covet, dont be fooled by the fact that he may not be the most coveted guy in fantasy football...had Shakir hit the FA market he would have had a lot of suitors and gotten noticeably more money.  

hey man, it wasn't you that short armed Shakir, my bad ;  )

[Alphadawg7]

30 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Ok man. 
 

Hopefully this thread gets dug up in 10-years.

 

Ha all good man, just a friendly chat.  But I can assure you that Shakir is coveted around the league as I hear from people very much in the league about it.  An unselfish WR, who has some of the best hands in football, who is a major RAC threat with the ball in his hands, and also is both a good and willing blocker that does all the dirty work too...he is a rare find in todays NFL and coaches covet guys like him.  Not to mention his commitment and dedication to reach his potential he puts into his offseason's.

 

Edited February 26 by Alphadawg7

[HOUSE]

This thread is like a homing pigeon, the bird can always find it's way home.

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, Figster said:

hey man, it wasn't you that short armed Shakir, my bad ;  )

 

Ha, I didn't even see what you posted...yeah I have been beating the drum for Shakir since we drafted him, definitely wasn't me short changing him.

[Figster]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Ha all good man, just a friendly chat.  But I can assure you that Shakir is coveted around the league as I hear from people very much in the league about it.  An unselfish WR, who has some of the best hands in football, who is a major RAC threat with the ball in his hands, and also is both a good and willing blocker that does all the dirty work too...he is a rare find in todays NFL and coaches covet guys like him.  Not to mention his commitment and dedication to reach his potential he puts into his offseason's.

 

 Not to mention Shakir has become Allens go to guy in an everyone eats Offense. 

[MasterStrategist]

15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Ha, I didn't even see what you posted...yeah I have been beating the drum for Shakir since we drafted him, definitely wasn't me short changing him.

The "short changing him" title goes to @BADOLBILZ

 

I hear he's a fan of his short arms 😁

 

Good call as usual on Shakir, @Alphadawg7! Vital part of the offense,whose stats wpuld only look better if we had a difference maker outside

[3rdand12]

28 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

This thread is like a homing pigeon, the bird can always find it's way home.

To deep for me.

 getting dizzy considering this even

BTW Homing Pigeons have to be away from home before they " come back home"

 How do they find the Away part of the equation.

 

There's another about some fg bird always coming home to roost.

 

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have also been consistently right.

Ok but don't throw your arm out by patting yourself on the back so much

 

[LEBills]

I’ll add this video from right after the draft to the people who were right about Shakir thread.

 

Some of the things Kollmann pointed out like Shakir’s high catch rate, good contested catch percentage, yards after the catch, and missed tackles forced have obviously translated. He also made this video right after the shooting at the Buffalo Tops to draw attention to it and how to donate to the recovery. 

[buffblue]

3 hours ago, Figster said:

Only 3 WR's have a higher catch rate value in the NFL in 2024 then Shakir and at one time he led the league in catch %

 

Nice? thats all you got?

 

I do agree however on the 5th round point. 

I mean it does help that half of his catches are at the line of scrimmage. I like Shakir but he is a nice player, not even close to being a game breaker.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 hours ago, Figster said:

Deal,

 

You voted no on Shakir ever becoming #2 in 2023 /poll.

 

How did that work out?

Well with Brandon Beane leading the Front Office there is a good chance that Shakir will be the best WR Allen plays with the next few seasons.

 

I like Shakir - anyone with eyes saw he deserved to be on the field more during the Ravens comeback win. 
 

It was the coaches that refused to play him. 
 

Shakir showed again against the Steelers that he deserved more time.

 

So yeah I wasn’t right - he became the #1 on this team. Can you win a Super Bowl with Shakir as your #1 WR, I guess we’ll find out.

 

When the team had more options at WR he was 3rd in the pecking order (technically 4th behind Kincaid). 

 

I just think he’s overhyped here as an elite player.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Actually, Shakir is very highly respected outside of Buffalo and around the league, not just as a "nice" player, but as a very good player.  And no one player is going to be the foundation of the best passing duo in the league in Buffalo, not in this style of offense where they run a balanced offense and spread the ball around in a true "everybody eats" fashion that isn't going away regardless of who is on the roster.  He is the kind of player coaches covet, dont be fooled by the fact that he may not be the most coveted guy in fantasy football...had Shakir hit the FA market he would have had a lot of suitors and gotten noticeably more money.  

I understand that - when teams like the Patriots and Raiders have significant cap space they would offer more than the Bills did. 
 

When I said “household name” I’m not saying that in reference to Front Offices around the league. 
 

And this Everyone Eats is just going to be the offense every year? 
 

Where we bank on being +24 in turnover differential and getting 16-rushing TDs from Cook? Allen can throw for <3,400 yards going forward and we’ll be #2 in scoring offense? 
 

Is our offense all good to go? Just run it back? 
 

Edited February 27 by Straight Hucklebuck