Does Beane have a trade with Schoen Lined Up???

[cbatl32]

I was just thinking about how Beane wouldn't have traded Diggs without a plan in place.  I started thinking that would be very difficult because it's hard to know who will be available even if we traded up to pick 9 with the Bears.  No guarantee that the top 3 WRs would even be still on the board.  But.....what if Beane and Schoen already have a deal for the 6 pick?  If you think about it, Schoen was here when we traded the 10th pick (Mahomes sigh) for the 27th pick and a first the next year.  And we used that to get Josh.  Schoen knows he needs a QB but doesn't really have the chance to get one of the top 4 this year without mortgaging the future.  

 

So what if Schoen is looking to acquire extra ammo for 2025 draft so they can move up next year for their "Josh Allen".  We could package something like this year's first, fourth and fifth, plus our first and Minnesota's second next year.  That would be pretty close in value on the Rich Hill chart.  It would still allow NYG to grab a top WR at 28, pick up some extra picks this year, but then have two 1s and a very high 2 next year to get their QB.

 

Am I crazy for thinking that they may have already discussed/agreed on something like this?  It would basically ensure we get one of Nabors/MHJ/Odunze.

[SoonerBillsFan]

I don't see us giving up that much draft capital.

[Doc Brown]

Anything's possible.  If Beane is thinking of a major move like that they could already have the parameters of the deal in place.  It pry won't happen until the draft though as the Giants might only move out if a player they want is off the board by the time they pick.  The Bills might not make the move if the WR they covet is gone at 6.  The Broncos and Bills had a deal ready to go in 2018 but Elway called off the deal because Bradley Chubb fell to them.  

[njbuff]

It's very possible.

 

The Giants need the QB, but if the top 4 are off the board by 6, then they might do this deal.

 

If one of the top 4 QB's slips to the Giants, then the deal if off. 

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I don't see us giving up that much draft capital.

Toss in the Giants need a QB, if Jayden Daniels falls to 3 I could see them trading with the Patriots or stay put and reach for JJ McCarthy. 

[Green Lightning]

Why would he Jints store picks to grab a QB next year? Do it at pick 6.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Green Lightning said:

Why would he Jints store picks to grab a QB next year? Do it at pick 6.

Cuz the top 3 QBs could be gone and after them there's a bunch of ???

[Gregg]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/21/sports/giants-plan-to-keep-eye-on-j-j-mccarthy-at-pro-day/

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

WATCH YOUR DRINK. BEANE!  You're not looking, Schoen drops something in your glass, and the next day Schoen shows you the 'Danny Dimes' for Allen contract you signed! 😳

[Green Lightning]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Cuz the top 3 QBs could be gone and after them there's a bunch of ???

And the guy who gets drafted first could do squat (See 2023 draft). At 6, they'd be better off trying to move up this year. 

[Logic]

 

23 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I don't see us giving up that much draft capital.

I'd give up that much draft capital for Malik Nabers in a heartbeat.

We'd still have a pick in the 4th and 5th round this year. Essentially, we'd still have a full slate of draft picks.

Then, next season, we'd still have a pick in the 2nd round, even after trading a 1st and 2nd.

I know its a divisive topic, and many are against the idea of moving up for a WR in a WR-heavy draft. I am not one of those people. Nabers and MHJ and Odunze are worth a big move.

[billsfan89]

I don't see McBeane doing a massive trade up for a non-QB, and honestly I don't think trading up for a non-QB is worth it. The NFL draft is a complete crapshoot AND the NFL it's self is very volatile with injuries. You can pick the right players whose fantastic but then he gets seriously hurt and the chances he washes out is a lot higher. In order for the Bills to go from pick 28 to pick 6 it would probably require the Bills to give up picks 28, 60, 128 and a 1st and 3rd in next years draft. That's 5 selections in the first 4 rounds for one player that isn't a QB (as QB's are both franchise changers and can now play for a long period of time they are the only position worth trading up massively for). 

 

If you get Nabers at pick 6 and at a cost of a future 1st, 3rd, and picks 28, 60 and 128 that's 5 good draft picks wrapped up in one single player. If he is a bust or gets hurt you are sinking so much down the drain. Smaller trade ups I am fine with if Brian Thomas Jr falls to the pick 23/24 and they want to trade up I am fine with it. But don't mortgage a lot of two draft classes for a WR. 

Edited April 4 by billsfan89

[TheWeatherMan]

26 minutes ago, njbuff said:

It's very possible.

 

The Giants need the QB, but if the top 4 are off the board by 6, then they might do this deal.

 

If one of the top 4 QB's slips to the Giants, then the deal if off. 

Giants might be able to trade down and still land a QB they value like Penix.  

[NORWOODS FOOT]

As I’ve just got done stating in a couple of other wide receiver threads, I would consider it for Marvin Harrison Junior. Obviously, you’d have to draw the line somewhere. But I think he’s that good. if he’s on the board at six, I admit, I’ll be secretly hoping they say the Bills have just made a trade with the Giants.

Edited April 4 by NORWOODS FOOT

[K-9]

25 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

WATCH YOUR DRINK. BEANE!  You're not looking, Schoen drops something in your glass, and the next day Schoen shows you the 'Danny Dimes' for Allen contract you signed! 😳

[Mike in Horseheads]

I'm all for keeping all the draft picks and try to fill some other spots of need

[london_bills]

50 minutes ago, cbatl32 said:

I was just thinking about how Beane wouldn't have traded Diggs without a plan in place.  I started thinking that would be very difficult because it's hard to know who will be available even if we traded up to pick 9 with the Bears.  No guarantee that the top 3 WRs would even be still on the board.  But.....what if Beane and Schoen already have a deal for the 6 pick?  If you think about it, Schoen was here when we traded the 10th pick (Mahomes sigh) for the 27th pick and a first the next year.  And we used that to get Josh.  Schoen knows he needs a QB but doesn't really have the chance to get one of the top 4 this year without mortgaging the future.  

 

So what if Schoen is looking to acquire extra ammo for 2025 draft so they can move up next year for their "Josh Allen".  We could package something like this year's first, fourth and fifth, plus our first and Minnesota's second next year.  That would be pretty close in value on the Rich Hill chart.  It would still allow NYG to grab a top WR at 28, pick up some extra picks this year, but then have two 1s and a very high 2 next year to get their QB.

 

Am I crazy for thinking that they may have already discussed/agreed on something like this?  It would basically ensure we get one of Nabors/MHJ/Odunze.

I was mentioning this yesterday with the giants at 6. Although the more I think about it I think any trade up would be to the early 20s or so, a more subtle trade

[Warriorspikes51]

do the Giants need a starting RT?  

[BuffaloBillyG]

Depends on how far back the Giants are reading before we trade with them. Because I do not think Beane is giving a bunch of high picks away for a trade that far up.

[Dillenger4]

Just stop with the "move up to 6" or even top ten. We have way too many holes to fill and beaner won't waste all our picks for a rookie WR.

 

There were 4 WR's taken in the 1st round last year:

 

900 yards

800yards

600 yards

400 yards.

 

Good numbers, but not trading my whole draft for that.