Beane's First-Round Deals

[26TrapDraw]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

it's not nice to tease people!  Let's hear it!  

Yeah really Tipster. We won’t hold you accountable as long as you preface it with “this is just what I heard” or “take it for what it’s worth because I don’t know if it’s just rumor” then you’re good.

[BarleyNY]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Tipsters gonna tip.

apparently not

[Thurman#1]

4 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

If I shared what I came across than I would only be feeding the rumor treadmill. The point is even if that is all bs it doesn’t matter. What matters is just knowing Beane and he’s not taking this laying down, he’s gonna come up with a big time shocker, just expect it.

 

 

You say you're sure he has a plan? Absolutely. Not even a question.

 

You say you're sure his plan is a shocker? Not convinced. Maybe and maybe not.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The receivers would be great, but we have more than one need and would be handicapped in the draft for two years.

 

No, thanks.

It won't happen unless Metcalf's contract is redone / extended

 

But, we have cap space next year to make up for losing a few picks....

[mrags]

9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Likely #2 or 3. 

I agree. But if he’s got a hard on for Odunze I could see it happening. 
 

I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, mrags said:

I agree. But if he’s got a hard on for Odunze I could see it happening. 
 

I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year. 

 

THANK YOU!!  

[Thurman#1]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

It won't happen unless Metcalf's contract is redone / extended

 

But, we have cap space next year to make up for losing a few picks....

 

 

Bringing in FAs doesn't make up for losing VERY IMPORTANT picks. It's not just "a few picks." It's the heart of the draft fro two years in a row.

 

Teams are built through the draft. You need a good solid percentage of the draft picks to hit. You need those guys who'll be here for four or five years minimum at a very reasonable price. That's how teams are built, and it's not just me saying so, it's Beane as well.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Bringing in FAs doesn't make up for losing VERY IMPORTANT picks. It's not just "a few picks." It's the heart of the draft fro two years in a row.

 

Teams are built through the draft. You need a good solid percentage of the draft picks to hit. You need those guys who'll be here for four or five years minimum at a very reasonable price. That's how teams are built, and it's not just me saying so, it's Beane as well.

Using those picks to get a player who can be a top 5 WR with Allen  and another potentially elite WR  is  IMO well worth it  

The position is by far in desperate need of that talent level 

[Green Lightning]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

I agree. But if he’s got a hard on for Odunze I could see it happening. 
 

I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year. 

On this I totally agree. On your other point, it's not so much that we have that many holes, we just don't have enough elite players. I see other AFC teams with top five players in key positions. Outside of Josh and Milano, we have none. Granted Josh makes up for a world of woes, but we need a few more playmaker/game changers to keep pace in the AFC IMO. 

[Lost]

22 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

This is the calm before the storm! If anyone thinks that Beane is just gonna let this whole Diggs thing go down without him having something up his sleeve than they are sadly underestimating him. Oh it’s coming, there’s no doubt in my mind. There’s a couple of speculations that I came across and 1 or 2 of them makes perfect sense so if if it’s either one of them than I’m quite confident it’ll be something of that magnitude. Look at Beane’s track record, he’s not afraid to make these shocking decisions and/or trades. It’s coming!

 

Isiah McKenzie 3.0 Incoming 😂

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

On this I totally agree. On your other point, it's not so much that we have that many holes, we just don't have enough elite players. I see other AFC teams with top five players in key positions. Outside of Josh and Milano, we have none. Granted Josh makes up for a world of woes, but we need a few more playmaker/game changers to keep pace in the AFC IMO. 

Well. I’d argue getting into the top 10 would almost guarantee your getting one at WR which is the most important t piece on Offense behind Josh 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Lost said:

 

Isiah McKenzie 3.0 Incoming 😂

Trent Sheffield and Harty 2.0 coming in hot.

 

I still can't believe people thought Harty or Sheffield would do more and be bigger than McKenzie.

[Thurman#1]

2 minutes ago, mrags said:

I agree. But if he’s got a hard on for Odunze I could see it happening. 
 

I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year. 

 

 

You can get playmakers and game changers without trading up to the top ten. You just can. And this is a year for WRs when it looks like there are likely to be some game changers available in the 20s and probably even into round two, maybe even round three.

 

As for not many holes, who's our LB depth? Do you really think the interior OL is solid with a guy who hasn't played more than a few dozen snaps at center since high school playing center? LG looks a bit questionable as well. Neither of the guys we've got lined up to play safety right now has ever settled in as a starter consistently in any of the teams they've been on. And our pass rush does NOT look good right now with last year's leading sacker gone.

 

We've got some real spots to fill. This lineup isn't a disaster, but if they don't fill some of these gaps and depth needs as well, we'll see the results on the field.

[4merper4mer]

22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How about this for the Allen  A-BOMB  Offense

28, 60, 128, 2025 1st, 2nd

 

For

16 - Thomas Jr.   &  DK Metcalf

 

DK Metcalf

Thomas Jr
Samuel
Shakir
Hollins 

DK Metcalf is the new shiny object?

[nucci]

isn't it always calm before the storm?

[4merper4mer]

3 minutes ago, mrags said:

Well. I’d argue getting into the top 10 would almost guarantee your getting one at WR which is the most important t piece on Offense behind Josh 

Sure.  And getting there from 28 is akin to getting to Alpha Centauri on your tricycle.

Edited April 5 by 4merper4mer

[Bray Wyatt]

27 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How about this for the Allen  A-BOMB  Offense

28, 60, 128, 2025 1st, 2nd

 

For

16 - Thomas Jr.   &  DK Metcalf

 

DK Metcalf

Thomas Jr
Samuel
Shakir
Hollins 

 

Curious how you came up with that comp?

 

Not that I would be against this trade (it's not the heart of two drafts as some claim)

 

28 becomes 16 and we have an extra 2nd next year.

 

So only real sacrifice is 60, 128 and next years 1st. We survived trading a 1st for Diggs, I think we would be just fine here as well. Plus we now have cap room (for next year) to make a splash if another big hole arises

Edited April 5 by Bray Wyatt

[BarleyNY]

37 minutes ago, mrags said:

 

I really don’t believe they have as many holes as others want to point out. If there was a year to make your move for a playmaker and game changer at the position, this is the year. 

 

If I agreed with you on the number of holes in the roster then it would be easy to say we should push in for a stud WR prospect or player. I don’t so it is not that simple. Our defense needs a pass rush and difference makers in the worst way. 

 

I think an argument can still be made to do it though. Get MHJ, Nabors or Odunze this year and then start finding those difference makers on defense in FA next offseason. That’s a reasonable strategy. I’d be happy to go this route if it’s for one of the top 3 WRs in the draft. I have no interest in a big move for any other WR prospect though. 

Edited April 5 by BarleyNY

[Tipster19]

18 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

it's not nice to tease people!  Let's hear it!  

 

15 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:

Yeah really Tipster. We won’t hold you accountable as long as you preface it with “this is just what I heard” or “take it for what it’s worth because I don’t know if it’s just rumor” then you’re good.

 

14 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You say you're sure he has a plan? Absolutely. Not even a question.

 

You say you're sure his plan is a shocker? Not convinced. Maybe and maybe not.

Ok, you guys asked for it. I’m not saying this so don’t hold me accountable! It’s a supposedly a picture of Jefferson at Buffalo’s airport. I got to go to an appointment and tech illiterate so I’m having trouble posting the picture. Personally I don’t think it’s him but I’ll figure it out later and post it. Remember I’m not saying it and a few of you asked for this!
 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

6 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Curious how you came up with that comp?

 

Not that I would be against this trade (it's not the heart of two drafts as some claim)

 

28 becomes 16 and we have an extra 2nd next year.

 

So only real sacrifice is 60, 128 and next years 1st. We survived trading a 1st for Diggs, I think we would be just fine here as well. Plus we now have cap room (for next year) to make a splash if another big hole arises

I figure the price to get pick 16 is 28, a 4th & 2025 2nd

Then IF he were going to be moved,  Metcalf for a 1st & 2nd 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Tipster19 said:

 

 

Ok, you guys asked for it. I’m not saying this so don’t hold me accountable! It’s a supposedly a picture of Jefferson at Buffalo’s airport. I got to go to an appointment and tech illiterate so I’m having trouble posting the picture. Personally I don’t think it’s him but I’ll figure it out later and post it. Remember I’m not saying it and a few of you asked for this!
 

 

 

The rumor on twitter was a photo of OBJ, not Jefferson  and it was the Newark airport, not Buffalo

Sorry!  

Edited April 5 by Warriorspikes51