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Clearly they offered the best compensation package.

Beane is no dummy. If an NFC team or a cellar dweller offered comparable return to what the Texans offered, he clearly would've gone with that instead.

At the end of the day, you have to prioritize doing what's best for your OWN team over the fact that you might be helping to strengthen another competitive team.

 

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3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Look at what other teams got trading their wide receivers this offseason. Keenan Allen was traded for a 4th rounder. Jerry Jeudy was traded for a 5th and 6th. Getting a 2nd for Diggs is actually pretty good, and only the Texans were willing to give that.

 

The 2nd in 2025 is basically a 3rd rounder this year.  So yeah, not bad considering what other guys fetched.

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Because no one else offered what should be a high 2nd Rounder (Vikings 2nd round pick).

It's simple. Beane didn't think he was trading an elite WR who was a difference maker in the playoffs. He trading an aging formerly elite player with a poor recent playoff record (65 yards TOTAL in last 3 playoff games). I'll take a pick around 35-38 overall for that.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

...worry about not falling apart to the Chiefs in the playoffs...

 

You have to make it to the Chiefs in the playoffs to even get to that point. 

 

There are more teams than just the Chiefs to worry about, something we should all understand from the 2022 Divisional Round game.

 

Would you be cool with Diggs going to the Bengals? No. And the Texans made it to the Division Round in just 1 year with Stroud, have a younger team, more talent, better cap situation, already had a number 1 WR, and now added Diggs. 

 

So instead of acting like we already made it & our spot is assured next to the Chiefs, we have to contend with reality & recognize there are other teams improving faster & more dramatically than the Bills.

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1 minute ago, BigDingus said:

 

You have to make it to the Chiefs in the playoffs to even get to that point. 

 

There are more teams than just the Chiefs to worry about, something we should all understand from the 2022 Divisional Round game.

 

Would you be cool with Diggs going to the Bengals? No. And the Texans made it to the Division Round in just 1 year with Stroud, have a younger team, more talent, better cap situation, already had a number 1 WR, and now added Diggs. 

 

So instead of acting like we already made it & our spot is assured next to the Chiefs, we have to contend with reality & recognize there are other teams improving faster & more dramatically than the Bills.


It's also all just talk on paper until those other teams actually DO it.

We've been hearing for several seasons now how strong the AFC is. The Russell Wilson Broncos were supposed to be threats. The Justin Herbert Chargers were supposed to be threats. Davante Adams to the Raiders, Deshaun Watson's Browns, Tua's Dolphins, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets...

All we've heard about for several years straight is how the rest of the AFC is gaining ground on Buffalo and will soon overtake them. It has yet to happen. Sure enough, the Bills were the 2nd seed again last season, despite all that noise.

COULD it happen, and soon? Absolutely. You're right that the Bills' spot is not guaranteed. But they still have the second best quarterback on planet earth, and until further notice, they've been backing their talk up (at least in the regular season) at a much greater rate than the rest of the "dangerous" AFC pack.

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I will tell you this...Beane and McDermott better make damn sure that they beat the Texans when the play them this year or it's going to look really bad for this franchise.

 

Another scenario I wouldn't mind is if Houston can beat the Chiefs. 

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Well, i'm just throwing this out there, but i highly suspect that we didn't have too many trade partners on this one.

In fact, it almost feels like Houston took Diggs out of sheer sympathy.

 

And i can only imagine how that conversation went......

 

Beane: who wants him?.....we got him.....fire sale on now!

 

Every franchise: ......(looks at the floor......looks at the ceiling.......fails to look Beane in the eye)

 

Beane: anybody?

 

Houston: .......HC whispering to the GM, "Jesus man, look at him.....like a beaten dog, for Christ's sakes. I think he's crying.....throw him a bone and a bag of peanuts and call it a deal"

 

Beane: alright, we got an opening bid of one bone and a bag of peanuts.....anybody else want to get in on this?

 

Every franchise:......(looks at the floor......looks at the ceiling.......fails to look Beane in the eye)

 

Houston: we decided we're keeping the bone......bag of peanuts, take it or leave it?

 

Beane: Deal!!!......but i don't want that bag of peanuts until next year

 

Houston: Deal!!!

 

 

And in my world, that's how big business deals are done.

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1 hour ago, Success said:

The Texans are being overrated.

 

I said it yesterday - people should check their schedule last season.  They didn't beat many good teams.  They'll have a 1st place schedule this year, and won't catch teams by surprise like they did in '23.

 

Not that they won't be in contention, but they haven't proven much to me yet.

 

Texans are better than the Bills right now, much better position financially because they have a rookie QB contract, added Joe Mixon at RB and plenty of future draft capital.  They have a coach a lot of players want to play for Demeco Ryans and a state with no income tax.  I dont think they are being over rated at all.  It is a team that will be a Super Bowl contender for years, they have leapfrogged the Bills imo.

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

Look at what other teams got trading their wide receivers this offseason. Keenan Allen was traded for a 4th rounder. Jerry Jeudy was traded for a 5th and 6th. Getting a 2nd for Diggs is actually pretty good, and only the Texans were willing to give that.

You have absolutely zero credible intel to back your claim that “only the Texans” were offering a 2nd for Diggs. What we do know is that the Texans were a preferred destination for Diggs. This has been discussed via multiple channels since the conclusion of the pro-bowl.  

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 I would have preferred trading him to Dallas for their first (#24).  But I guess maybe Dallas didn't want to do that?

 

And I don't get it.  What is Dallas doing?  They lost way more than they gained so far (Pollard/Gallup/T Smith all gone).  Dallas is losing the in-state hype battle to Houston by a large margin.  Dallas should have given us their first - jerks.

 

So I think Houston probably gave us the best offer for Diggs.  And if the OP is suggesting we should have taken a lesser offer for Diggs because we're scared of Houston, well that's just foolish.

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46 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

You have absolutely zero credible intel to back your claim that “only the Texans” were offering a 2nd for Diggs. What we do know is that the Texans were a preferred destination for Diggs. This has been discussed via multiple channels since the conclusion of the pro-bowl.  

You have no credible intel to claim that any other team offered a 2nd for Diggs. See how easy that is?

 

And what does it matter if there was another team? The Texans obviously had the best offer, which proves there was not a significant market for Diggs. And that has been said via multiple channels since the trade went down, that there wasn't a big market for him.

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This thread is just bizarre.  The Texans suck, no they are better than the Bills and why aren't the Bills improving every year?  Complete comedy. 

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2 hours ago, Success said:

The Texans are being overrated.

 

I said it yesterday - people should check their schedule last season.  They didn't beat many good teams.  They'll have a 1st place schedule this year, and won't catch teams by surprise like they did in '23.

 

Not that they won't be in contention, but they haven't proven much to me yet.

 

 

I honestly can see them being the 2021 Cleveland Browns.

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3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Texans are better than the Bills right now, much better position financially because they have a rookie QB contract, added Joe Mixon at RB and plenty of future draft capital.  They have a coach a lot of players want to play for Demeco Ryans and a state with no income tax.  I dont think they are being over rated at all.  It is a team that will be a Super Bowl contender for years, they have leapfrogged the Bills imo.

They have alot to prove this season before I can say they passed us

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54 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

You have absolutely zero credible intel to back your claim that “only the Texans” were offering a 2nd for Diggs. What we do know is that the Texans were a preferred destination for Diggs. This has been discussed via multiple channels since the conclusion of the pro-bowl.  

 

Amari Cooper went for a 5th as a 26 year old in the prime of his career.  A 2nd for Diggs was great value.

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6 minutes ago, MJS said:

You have no credible intel to claim that any other team offered a 2nd for Diggs. See how easy that is?

 

And what does it matter if there was another team? The Texans obviously had the best offer, which proves there was not a significant market for Diggs. And that has been said via multiple channels since the trade went down, that there wasn't a big market for him.

That’s funny because I never said any other team offered anything.  Ignorance and arrogance is a dangerous mixture. Try a slice of humble pie it tastes good! 

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