And we're on to.. Aiyuk?

[SoonerBillsFan]

39 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

based on how “IMPOSSIBLE” it was to move Diggs according to Cover 1, that must mean we’re trading for Aiyuk

 

 

 

It's possible.  We trade for him look for us to go DE round one or trade back.

 

If I could get Aiyuk for a 2nd next year, I trade back from 28 into round 2 and pick up a 3rd.  

[nosejob]

18 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I'd even trade a 2025 second and a couple later pics to ensure the deal gets done, then you could still draft another receiver in the first or second round this year and the whole group would be extremely formidable. I'd even prefer to go best player available in the first round and then move up a good ways in the second round and get the receiver then. Landing Aiyuk would actually give us multiple options and not be forced into anything.

Maybe this is a draft day decision. If the board goes haywire, maybe they have a plan

[Warriorspikes51]

11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's possible.  We trade for him look for us to go DE round one or trade back.

 

If I could get Aiyuk for a 2nd next year, I trade back from 28 into round 2 and pick up a 3rd.  

No.  If we were to get Aiyuk (we better keep 28!)  I still want BTJ / Legette / AD 

[Logic]

My favorite scenario thus far presented has been to use our 1st round pick on a receiver, then also use a mid round pick to trade for a veteran receiver -- think Chris Godwin or Deandre Hopkins.

Personally, I'd rather not go the "trade a 1st or 2nd for a veteran receiver that you immediately have to pay a bunch of money to" route again. I'd rather get a youngster that would be cheap labor for four seasons, could grow with Josh, and could spend a decade+ here. And then, if they want to bring in another impact receiver, I'm fine with it being a somewhat older guy that won't require a mega-extension.

On the one hand, yes, you have instant impact from a veteran that a rookie theoretically will not provide. But on the other hand, you have to pay said veteran around $30 million, and I'd just...rather not do that.

Give me a 1st round receiver and then trade a mid round pick for a trusty vet. That's the route I like.

Edited April 13 by Logic

[nbbillsfan]

6 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

He's not "pulling a Diggs".

how is he not? Using twitter/social media as weapon to publicly show displeasure for their team is exactly what he is doing and exactly what got diggs out of Minnesota and Buffalo.

[TheBeaneBandit]

14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No.  If we were to get Aiyuk (we better keep 28!)  I still want BTJ / Legette / AD 

For sure. I only do it for a higher 2025 pick and maybe a couple late round pics thrown in.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 4/4/2024 at 10:05 AM, TonyBeets said:

We need a 1, not a 2.  Slim pickings I know, I'd rather take our chances drafting one.

Aiyuk is most definitely a #1. He’s improved every single year statistically and just came off a 1300+ yard season on a stacked running team. He’s head & shoulders above Diggs at their stage of careers. I would not complain at all if BUF somehow got him and neither would 90% of posters here. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

38 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No.  If we were to get Aiyuk (we better keep 28!)  I still want BTJ / Legette / AD 

I would go DE if we traded for him and kept 28.  Take Franklin in the 2nd.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I would go DE if we traded for him and kept 28.  Take Franklin in the 2nd.

if we add Aiyuk, we need a bigger physical WR IMO

[SoonerBillsFan]

17 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

if we add Aiyuk, we need a bigger physical WR IMO

Why?  We just need guys to get open and catch the ball.  

 

That said,I would rather draft our own guy than trade for one.

Edited April 13 by SoonerBillsFan

[Einstein's Dog]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

My favorite scenario thus far presented has been to use our 1st round pick on a receiver, then also use a mid round pick to trade for a veteran receiver -- think Chris Godwin or Deandre Hopkins.

Personally, I'd rather not go the "trade a 1st or 2nd for a veteran receiver that you immediately have to pay a bunch of money to" route again. I'd rather get a youngster that would be cheap labor for four seasons, could grow with Josh, and could spend a decade+ here. And then, if they want to bring in another impact receiver, I'm fine with it being a somewhat older guy that won't require a mega-extension.

Give me a 1st round receiver and then trade a mid round pick for a trusty vet. That's the route I like.

 

For me, if they could do a C Godwin or Dhop, I wouldn't mind if they traded down into the 2nd and still got one of the McConkey/Legette/Franklin/Coleman level and some additional picks.

 

By the way - excellent addition of C Godwin into the mix, hadn't thought of that one.  Interesting.  

[MrEpsYtown]

I would totally do it for the 2 we got for Diggs, plus some later draft picks. 

[Bills!Win!]

Aiyuk would fit great on our team. He’s got the “losing to the chiefs in a big game” experience we are looking for 

[Niagara Dude]

15 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

I agree with others that said we dumped Diggs to get out of cap hell, so why would the Bills just do this again 🤷‍♂️

Right,  he is a good receiver but he is no superstar. Not interested in these monster cap hit receivers,  just trade up and draft one of the top guys in this draft.  Aiyuk wants 100 million plus

49ers are only trying tp trade him because they know this draft is loaded with receivers and better get a dude on a rookie deal then have to pay one 25 mllion a season. It will cost us draft capital and huge salary cap space.  

 

Just for the record,  the Bills could have drafted Jefferson with there pick they traded to the Viking for Diggs.  Diggs never produced in big playoff games

 

Unless your getting a superstar then no

[Niagara Dude]

As he heads into the fifth and final season of his rookie contract, Aiyuk has made no secret that he wants a long-term contract extension that would put him among the NFL’s highest-paid wide receivers. 

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Aiyuk is most definitely a #1. He’s improved every single year statistically and just came off a 1300+ yard season on a stacked running team. He’s head & shoulders above Diggs at their stage of careers. I would not complain at all if BUF somehow got him and neither would 90% of posters here. 

Impossible that you know that 90% agree with getting this guy,  As he heads into the fifth and final season of his rookie contrac (14mllion this season)t, Aiyuk has made no secret that he wants a long-term contract extension that would put him among the NFL’s highest-paid wide receivers.

 

Time to get a stud receiver with both size/great speed and on a rookie contract. 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, nbbillsfan said:

how is he not? Using twitter/social media as weapon to publicly show displeasure for their team is exactly what he is doing and exactly what got diggs out of Minnesota and Buffalo.

 

There are a lot of reasons why an athlete would delete their social media or limit it or unfollow this or that.  

It's an inference that the message is "publicly show displeasure for their team"

 

Diggs did more than 'unfollow'.

[Logic]

3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

 

For me, if they could do a C Godwin or Dhop, I wouldn't mind if they traded down into the 2nd and still got one of the McConkey/Legette/Franklin/Coleman level and some additional picks.

 

By the way - excellent addition of C Godwin into the mix, hadn't thought of that one.  Interesting.  

I first saw the notion of Godwin being moved mentioned recently. Makes sense, now that they've paid Evans a big pile of money. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-trade-rumors-zach-wilson-chris-godwin-among-players-who-could-still-be-moved-before-or-during-draft/

Granted, with a $20million+ cap number himself this year, the deal might need to be done post June 1st, and Beane would have to be ready with an extension/restructure of some sort. That said, it's hard to imagine Godwin commanding the same type of money as Aiyuk or Higgins going forward.

From a Bills cap perspective, I'm not sure how feasible it is. From a pure football standpoint, he'd be a quality addition, and likely wouldn't command nearly the capital or money that Aiyuk/Higgins would.

[ToGoGo]

4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's possible.  We trade for him look for us to go DE round one or trade back.

 

If I could get Aiyuk for a 2nd next year, I trade back from 28 into round 2 and pick up a 3rd.  

I think that’s what the move would be. Aiyuk for a 2nd and then trade back #28 to the 2nd round and draft McConkey. 

[iccrewman112]

On 4/4/2024 at 7:15 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

From what I know about Aiyuk is he's a yac guy and we need more of that.

Allen has never really produced with a big YAC guy. Is that because of the Bills offensive scheme with almost no effective WR screens, very few slant routes and I can’t remember I have ever seen shallow drag routes thrown under LB coverage.

 

i wouldn’t want to pay Aiyuk big money and then not take advantage of one of his best attributes.

[Einstein's Dog]

12 minutes ago, Logic said:

I first saw the notion of Godwin being moved mentioned recently. Makes sense, now that they've paid Evans a big pile of money. 

From a Bills cap perspective, I'm not sure how feasible it is. From a pure football standpoint, he'd be a quality addition, and likely wouldn't command nearly the capital or money that Aiyuk/Higgins would.

The advantage of trading for a vet in this situation is you can adjust salary/cap in a variety of ways.  The player is generally agreeable because they get more money this year as apposed to playing on their old salary. 

 

I like the idea of a veteran WR that, on paper should be as good (or better) than Diggs last year.  Plus getting one of the second tier of WRs that could be considered the equal of G Davis right out of the gate, their rookie year (with the potential to be much more).