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5 minutes ago, zevo said:

What’s going to happen when the bill select an edge at 28? 🤣

 

They take a WR in the 2nd.

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I'm surprised by how binary this conversation is.  Most folks are either applauding the move or criticizing it.  Pro or Con.

 

I'm ambivalent. 

 

I don't like the cap ramifications.  And I want Josh to have better weapons this year than last, not worse.  With both Gabe and Diggs departing - whatever their shortcomings - we've lost a lot of receptions & yards.  I'm sure Beane has a plan to replace the lost production with Samuels being part of that plan but we can't see the whole plan yet which makes me wonder how solid it is.  

 

On the other hand, Diggs had attitude problems, wasn't much of a deep threat anymore, didn't thrive under Brady, and, given his age, the clock was ticking on his Buffalo career anyway.  

 

Neither happy nor sad, I'm just curious.  What's Beane going to do with limited resources to get Josh the targets he deserves?  

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3 minutes ago, babulator said:

I saw another discussion where they said who tf cares about dead cap this year, because there's no one left to sign. Better to clear the books now and have an extra 25m next year to play with, after we draft one of the stud WR's this year.

 

 

Interesting thought. I’m not thinking this is 100% true on its face.  The idea can be extended to the idea that Beane is done shopping for FA’s.  He likely does not see any more crumbs in the cookie jar that he wants to pursue this year. He will hopefully have a good young receiver next year on the roster and money to move in FA with this move. 

 

I really think Diggs best days are behind him.  This was a good move to save a train wreck. 

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5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I don't mind Diggs going - it struck me he had rapidly become a problem in the locker room rather than someone who could be relied upon. But only a 2nd round pick in 2025 for him. A very poor return which does suggest a level of desperation.

you honestly thought someone was gonna toss a 1st round pick for a 31 year old WR who was showing legit signs of decline?

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2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

Man it sucks not being able to get a thing for 2024. Wont notice the extra cap space until 2025 and wont get any picks until 2025. I hope we trade for Tee Higgins. Offer him a contract that goes into effect 2025. And still just a WR

 

What we are getting in 2024 is probably a top 5 pick after we trade this and next year's firsts plus one of next year's seconds.

 

The trade provided that additional capital needed to move up now.

 

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4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It's really not.

 

It'll likely look better as we move towards the season.

 

But this was a huge hit, particularly for this year's team and future cap status.

 

And to remind you, Diggs was 6th in the league in receptions, 13th in yards, 10th in first downs and tied for 7th in TDs last year. It's not fair to only look at his worst section of the season and pretend they sum up his year. Not even close. That production absolutely can NOT "be replaced quite easily."

 

It was the majority of his season.  totally fair.  he was in free fall---time to cut him loose 

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1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

A lot of homers on this board. Any other board this trade is an F


Wait can Dolphins fans read all the way to the letter F?

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1 minute ago, babulator said:

We'll be drafting a top WR for sure 100%. Just a matter of who and where.


That’s a stretch to think a rookie they can realistically pick will come in and immediately be impactful enough to garner similar coverage.

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Just now, SoTier said:

 

They take a WR in the 2nd.

In that (awful, in my opinion) scenario, I'd hope they'd trade up to 29-31 to leapfrog the Chiefs, who are going to be the beginning of the 2nd run on WRs. 

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1 hour ago, appoo said:

All great NFL WRs are completely bonkers and head cases.  Love Diggs he was tremendous for this franchise 

 

I don’t like grouping and judging people like that. SOME of the WR’s are head cases, and it’s probably a good bit higher percentage than other positions. BUT, I’m sure there some Larry Fitzgerald types in the league who should not be lumped in with the head cases. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

I'm surprised by how binary this conversation is.  Most folks are either applauding the move or criticizing it.  Pro or Con.

 

I'm ambivalent. 

 

I don't like the cap ramifications.  And I want Josh to have better weapons this year than last, not worse.  With both Gabe and Diggs departing - whatever their shortcomings - we've lost a lot of receptions & yards.  I'm sure Beane has a plan to replace the lost production with Samuels being part of that plan but we can't see the whole plan yet which makes me wonder how solid it is.  

 

On the other hand, Diggs had attitude problems, wasn't much of a deep threat anymore, didn't thrive under Brady, and, given his age, the clock was ticking on his Buffalo career anyway.  

 

Neither happy nor sad, I'm just curious.  What's Beane going to do with limited resources to get Josh the targets he deserves?  

we lose $3M is cap space this season, plus Diggs...gain a lot next season

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16 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

I'm just saying relax, brother.

I see great things coming from this franchise this year.

I am really frustrated, as most here are, I’m sick of seeing our luck and then we hit the lottery finally getting a generational talent at QB (sorry Jeff Tuel) and we seem not to be able to give him what he could have won with the last few years. 

 

Drink a Guinness for you with a shot of  Jameson and let’s be back to Bills Brothers!
 

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Just now, appoo said:

you honestly thought someone was gonna toss a 1st round pick for a 31 year old WR who was showing legit signs of decline?

 

Not a first, but maybe two picks rather than one. However, I'll freely admit I have no idea how the calculations work for picks.

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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

The media loves to praise teams on the way up and bash those on the way up.

Texans are ascending

Bills look at best from the outside to be treading water or in decline. We know the players that Beane got rid of were all replaceable. But when you lose both safeties, your center, and your #1 WR it looks really bad. 

 

The trade sucks. 

 

The media knows McDermott is a joke too. They know he cost us a SuperBowl. They know he can't beat Reid in the playoffs. They love Ryans right now. 

 

The only thing that reverses the narrative is winning the SuperBowl. Until then all we are is a team wasting a HOF QB, just like the Chargers with Rivers, the Dolphins with Marino, and Elway with Reeves. 

Ethan I can’t argue with you. They must have something going on cause they didn’t need to do this and leave a hole the size of an aircraft career at WR now. 

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Just now, hondo in seattle said:

I'm surprised by how binary this conversation is.  Most folks are either applauding the move or criticizing it.  Pro or Con.

 

I'm ambivalent. 

 

I don't like the cap ramifications.  And I want Josh to have better weapons this year than last, not worse.  With both Gabe and Diggs departing - whatever their shortcomings - we've lost a lot of receptions & yards.  I'm sure Beane has a plan to replace the lost production with Samuels being part of that plan but we can't see the whole plan yet which makes me wonder how solid it is.  

 

On the other hand, Diggs had attitude problems, wasn't much of a deep threat anymore, didn't thrive under Brady, and, given his age, the clock was ticking on his Buffalo career anyway.  

 

Neither happy nor sad, I'm just curious.  What's Beane going to do with limited resources to get Josh the targets he deserves?  

I'm a bit more cautious about this short term because for the Bills to get better they need to replace Diggs with someone who can win downfield - no guarantee. I'm very happy long term because of how much cap this frees up. Allen is gonna be in his prime until he's like 35 at least. They have a very long window, and the way it worked with Diggs and Von they have a ton of flexibility to create a great roster around Josh

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