MJS Posted April 3 Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I gave it a D, and that's just grading the trade in a vacuum and not looking at the dead cap from the ludicrous extension. Diggs cooled off in the 2nd half of the season, but he still finished 13th in yards and 8th in TDs for the league. That's a really good season and he's had 4 straight really good seasons for the Bills. There's no reason to think his production will fall off a cliff, although it's fair to say he doesn't have much time left as an elite WR. Diggs+ 5th + 6th for a 2nd is a really poor return. If you net the picks we essentially traded Diggs for a 3rd. Trading a bona fide WR1 for a 3rd rd pick is not good value. I don't think Diggs is a number 1 anymore, or at least not for the Bills. He soured on the organization and disappeared in games. I fully expect him to go to Houston and put up good numbers, until something upsets him again and he sours on THAT organization. It happened with the Vikings and it happened with the Bills. Getting a 2 for him is fine. The dead cap hit is a big blow, though. Quote
Virgil Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Grade Beane’s Diggs Trade I miss your musk 1 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Anyone that grades a pick an 'A' where one team gives up a top 7 player at their position, $30M in cap space and two day 3 picks to receive a future 2nd round pick in compensation is delusional. For that to be an A, you'd have to be talking a first round pick or multiple early day 2 picks and a prospect with no other compensation going back the other way. Quote
FireChans Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 54 minutes ago, Trogdor said: You realize he gave up picks they needed too right? We don’t need them that much. Diggs is addition by subtraction, and now two rookie scale WR’s to be leaned on as heavy contributors is awesome. He was gone in 2025 regardless, imo. Launching him now was just ripping off the bandaid. I think he’s washed. Beane thinks he’s washed and or a cancer. Either way, SEE YA Just now, BullBuchanan said: Anyone that grades a pick an 'A' where one team gives up a top 7 player at their position, $30M in cap space and two day 3 picks to receive a future 2nd round pick in compensation is delusional. For that to be an A, you'd have to be talking a first round pick or multiple early day 2 picks and a prospect with no other compensation going back the other way. See above. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Success said: He was great for us - but like others, I'm kind of relieved. This team has come up short repeatedly in the playoffs. Diggs was a no-show the past 2 playoffs losses, and dropped one of the best passes I think I've seen in the postseason. We're heading into '24 w/ essentially a new team. It feels like a very needed clean slate. New WR's, new secondary and also a pretty new DL as well. This is a new team now. 2 Quote
Heels20X6 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Success said: He was great for us - but like others, I'm kind of relieved. This team has come up short repeatedly in the playoffs. Diggs was a no-show the past 2 playoffs losses, and dropped one of the best passes I think I've seen in the postseason. We're heading into '24 w/ essentially a new team. It feels like a very needed clean slate. I'm with you. Last season, to me, was the last opportunity for THAT iteration of the Bills to prove that they could get it done. And they had everything lined up to show us that. The beasts of the AFC, both KC and Cincinatti, were very vulnerable and the vaunted Eagles and Niners out of the NFC had warts as well. They even got the Chiefs at home....and they still couldn't get it done. I'm ok with a "new look" Bills from this season onwards. The old guard couldn't win it, so it's time to dump cap and start again. 1 3 1 Quote
Beast Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Or it could have been two seasons from now when his cap hit was meager. This braintrust also has other great contracts on the books like Von Miller. You think it's the "end of the story?" It's just the beginning, and it's not looking good. No, actually it is looking very goood. Diggs and his sulking, non-productive ways are out of the locker room. The Bills went on a 5 game winning streak to win the division title in spite of Diggs lack of production. Diggs had 37 catches for 349 yards and 1 TD in the last 8 games of the regular season, while being on the field for 80 plus percent of the offensive snaps. Bye, Stefon. Those stats and better can be replaced quite easily, minus the attitude. Edited April 3 by Beast 2 1 2 Quote
SectionC3 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 9 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: I don’t think this was originally the plan. That tweet from Diggs had to have been the last straw. No way you just let your top two WR’s walk out the door. The fact that they didn’t get more for Diggs and traded him to within the conference says they just wanted to be done with him. I don’t think they nuke the nominal #1 WR over a very recent tweet. This has been brewing for awhile. Trust me when I say that this guy turned into a supreme a-hole. I have no doubt that Josh signed off on this. In the end, they just got tired of his BS and dumped him. They couldn’t do it after his tantrum in minicamp, but they kept a lid on it and him and got value for him as soon as they could. Adios to a guy who didn’t want to be here. Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SoTier said: he wasn't good enough Da Fug?!?! Which skill? Breaking through the LOS on a carry and averaging over a yard less than Cooke while looking patheticly slow in comparison? Edited April 3 by Buffalo Boy Quote
Magox Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, ALLinALLEN said: Never gonna win it all..... You should change your moniker to IamFOLDINGwithALLEN Quote
BarleyNY Posted April 3 Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I didn't realize it was Minnesota's 2nd round pick. That makes me feel a bit more positive. Me too. Big difference between Minny’s 2nd rounder and Houston’s IMO. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: What about literally every other season we've been eliminated? In our 3 playoff games vs KC in 4 years...McD's defense has gotten them to punt a TOTAL of 4 times! Is that good? Are you impressed by that? McD's D has been awful in the biggest games and moments since he's been here literally every single season, even when we've been relatively healthy. I don't really even know how you can debate that. It's either McD has failed or Mahomes is unreal in the playoffs. Quote
Bruffalo Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: I say we package some picks, throw Elam into the deal and giddy up......grab our future young WR, maybe 2 Elam wouldn't add much to the compensation, he's probably worth a 5th-6th round pick at this point due to his 1st round rookie salary. Quote
SectionC3 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, Beast said: No, actually it is looking very goood. Diggs and his sulking, non-productive ways are out of the locker room. The Bills went on a 5 game winning streak to win the division title. Diggs had 37 catches for 349 yards and 1 TD in the last 8 games of the regular season, while being on the field for 80 plus percent of the offensive snaps. Bye, Stefon. Those stats and better can be replaced quite easily, minus the attitude. Sulking is such a perfect word. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Largest dead cap hit for a non-QB in NFL history. At least we’re in the books for something! 😂 2 Quote
CaliBills Posted April 3 Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, BBFL said: That is exactly my sentiments. Just a year earlier than expected. My concern is the same with Kyle… That’s a lot of production that’s been moved on from in one season. I agree as well but with a caviot. There is only 1 ball that can go around so if it wasn't them getting schemed open or thrown to, it will be Kincaid/Shakir/Samuel now and who ever we trade for or draft. The reason I see this and Davis being on another team, is at crucial times in games and in the playoffs, drops were happening more than they should. 1 Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: Only thing is can they get there. Other teams will know what they did and ask a kings ransom to move up. 100%! Quote
Thurman#1 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Future cap space. Yeah. So in other words, cap space. It was wildly obvious one of the main goals they had this year was to get future cap space back into reasonable shape, so we didn't have to go through another year like this one where we start out so far underwater. That goal just took a huge hit. Quote
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