Diggs traded to Texans for picks

[Pirate Angel]

58 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

What a joke. The best receiver we’ve had in 20 years and away he goes. Pathetic. Looks like more of a step back this season than I thought. 

When they traded Watkins and Darby the same belief was had by many

[without a drought]

Is it getting hot in here?

 

Joe Brady, McD and Beane

[harmonkillebrew]

1 minute ago, LarryMadman said:

I could have envisioned Diggs becoming more of a malcontent this year as Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel, Knox, Cook etc get more targets because Diggs just isn't as good as he used to be. Add in the friction he brings behind the scenes and it seems Beane and McD didn't want any part of that. IDK if i'm totally sold on the process anymore as it has yet to produce a SB but you definantly do not want a locker room cancer guy.

Definitely a youth movement on Offense. Surrounding Josh with guys that have more in the tank and can grow together.  Diggs is on the downslope of his career and didn't have many more good years and would likely be a cancer as you say, if the bills weren' force feeding him.

[Cash]

23 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Very weak comp.

The Bills wanted him gone.

Agree. The more I think about it, the more I think Diggs was priced to move, and that the FO thinks there’s at least some addition by subtraction in moving him. Will it be enough? Time will tell. 

[boyst]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, the idea of trading next years 1st with this years 1st and 2nd to move up makes a lot of sense now.

MHJ is the only one worth doing that with.

 

can't wait until 2029 when we are fussing over having to pay him $45mm/yr

[ShakAttack]

6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

That's officially over. The window is slammed shut until at least 2026 now and that's if they draft a stud in the late first this year.

I mean we did make the playoffs with John Brown and Cole Beasley as our WR1&2. I realize the defense was better at that time, but that was also 2019 Josh Allen. 
 

Our roster isn’t near complete yet. Why don’t we at least give it a chance and see where this is going first? 
 

We are definitely drafting a WR now, and there is a VERY high chance that WR will be more productive than Diggs was in the 2nd half of last season. He will also be ~10 years younger.

 

The only thing that bothers me about this deal is that we were willing to get rid of him for $3m less than it would have cost to keep him.  I guess we just wanted to get decent compensation for him while we can? I don’t know, but wait till next year and you’re looking at a 4th-5th round pick at best. So there’s that. 

[damj]

1 minute ago, buffblue said:

We were at a 27-28 million hit before the trade. Now it's 31 million. So only a few million additional cap hit was added. It's just all dead now

Add in the cost for another WR

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Pirate Angel said:

When they traded Watkins and Darby the same belief was had by many

 

this.  The player was being to have too much of a negative impact 

[CapeBreton]

I knew that contract extension was going to be a problem, and I remember people crapping on me for suggesting it. 

[Allen2Moulds]

50 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Andre Reed would like to say hi.

So would Moulds.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Cray51 said:

Beane needs to earn his money now.  Go get a top 4 WR in this draft (Harrison/Nabers/Odunze/Thomas Jr)

 

Grab another in the 3rd via trade back in the second.  Maybe a Legette falls.

 

Go into the season with a WR room locked down for the next 3 years and build a damn championship team

 

I think its 1 and 4 probably.  Still needing to get some younger contributors on the defensive side of the ball with the 2nd pick.  

 

I think 2025's 1st is in play to try and get up and get your guy, and having 2 2nds in 2025 makes that easier to potentially stomach.  

[billsfan_34]

27 minutes ago, eball said:

Anyone who doesn't believe they at least vetted this idea with Josh first is kidding himself...

 

Beane has a plan and keeping his golden boy happy is a big part of that.

 

Absolutely! Josh is smart and probably said “do whats best for the organization” or something to that effect. This second rounder is great leverage to have in this years draft or a nice piece for next years draft/trade etc…gotta think big picture here.

[Alphadawg7]

Wonder who the target would be on a trade up...lots of assumptions its Thomas, but I can't help but wonder if its someone like Odunze or Nabers, which ever isn't the 2nd WR taken and gets into the teens potentially.  

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, DCOrange said:

My attempt to convince myself the sky isn't falling:

• A lot of people believe Kincaid will turn into a go-to receiver.
• A lot of people believe Shakir is blossoming into a good starter.
• A lot of people believe Curtis Samuel is a good starter.
• It's still a very deep WR class with a ton of guys that project as starting caliber WRs.
• The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl in which their top receivers were a declining (albeit still very good) Travis Kelce, Rashee Rice, and Marques Valdes-Scantling.

If all of that stuff is true, we should still have a pretty good group of receivers even without trading up in the draft and probably a better group than some of the other contenders have had recently.

 

I don't know how much of that I actually believe though lol.

again, for the millionth time.

 

The Chiefs win championships because their defense is excellent in the post season.  That is the opposite of the Buffalo Bills, who by the way score more than anyone on the chiefs even without the should have been game tying missed field goal.

[appoo]

Just now, stlbills13 said:

Agree. And even though Diggs sucked at the end of the year he did take attention off Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, etc. 

 

They still need to add a starter to the WR room. But in Joe Brady's offense, I'm not sure you need a top 8 WR to succeed. 

I dunno about the suggestion you don’t need an elite talent. It gets down to brass tacks right? 
 

If Bills land say Brian Thomas Jr to replace Diggs in the depth chart and use his as a deep threat. 
 

Across the 17 games we’ll play, how many of those corners is he going to be able to beat on deep routes? It takes pretty special talent to do that in the NFL. Scheme can help to some extent, but at some point you gotta win 1v1s in order to force the DC to scheme for you, and that’s when you start adding value to the offense 

[DasNootz]

7 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Amen. The over-reaction on this board is hilarious.

 

And for everyone bitching that it is "only" a 2nd round pick, we also got a 6th this year, and a 5th next year.  Those picks matter when you are reloading the roster.

All the reports I've seen say we are giving a 6th this year and a 5th next year... not receiving them.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, without a drought said:

Is it getting hot in here?

 

Joe Brady, McD and Beane

Elephant in the room was always Diggs didn’t fit Brady’s offense.

[PayDaBill$]

6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Amen. The over-reaction on this board is hilarious.

 

And for everyone bitching that it is "only" a 2nd round pick, we also got a 6th this year, and a 5th next year.  Those picks matter when you are reloading the roster.

Didn’t the 5th / 6th go to Houston ??

[DapperCam]

18 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

So it makes sense to trade someone in the first year of their extension and take a cap hit thats really hard to eat.  Im still confused how this happens with the cap.  who are we cutting?

We we already paying Diggs this cap to be on the roster. It’s “dead” cap because we are still paying him that cap even though he isn’t on the roster.

 

 

So we don’t have to cut anybody if we replace him with a draft pick or cheap player. If we trade for someone like Higgins or Ayuik (sp?) we can probably structure their extensions so their cap is low this year.

[BillsFan4]

Not sure if this has been discussed yet.

 

wonde did this will be designated as a post June 1st trade? Can they do that?

the dead cap looks way better if so.

 

https://overthecap.com/player/stefon-diggs/3994
 

it shows an $8.8M dead cap hit and $19M in savings for 2022.