Coach Tuesday Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, KDIGGZ said: It's a bad trade no matter how people try to rationalize it. GM's do dumb things sometimes. It happens It’s not a bad trade given his age and contract - it was a bad contract given his age and antics. 6 Quote
boyst Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: If this was strategic, as opposed to reactive, it would’ve happened a month ago before all of the WR-needy teams picked a mate, or during the draft. This was a reaction to something, plain and simple. And it’s a terrible look for the organization - they signed him to this contract and kept adding money to it, yet they couldn’t make it work. And this regime ALWAYS finds some reason why they have to wait to fix the offense until some future year. ALWAYS. this is where i am at. i want to hear what Beane says and more information to come out. there has been a lot of smoke and there was probably always a fire considering shipping him out. the extension we put him on years ago wasn't even used yet - so that is the most confounding part. we are reacting now after trying to bring him in for a long time. that extension was pure garbage to react early and now we are who knows where. 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Im sure that's Beane's plan 13, 27, and 60 say hi…….from afar. Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 41 minutes ago, FireChans said: @GoBills808 Texans +500 cash???? absolutely dunking on them 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 27 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Idk what happened or when but Josh and Diggs seamed off. Allen’s play the last few years has been better throwing to the open guy instead of force feeding Diggs. Wish him the best he was a great player for us. No one is going to like what I am going to say but, This reminds me of Tony Romo and T.O.....Now I am not comparing players just the situation. Allen is light years better than Romo and Owens was much better than Diggs. the similarity I see is Romo was a young player and could not tell Owens to cool it with his nonsense because Owens was a hall of famer who played with steve young..etc.....Romo had to sit back and let him say whatever he wanted at all times and tolerate his act on the field because if he dared to put him in his place the media would have swooped in and started a feud....(which actually happened in 08) all the new wr will be forced to listen to Allen, Diggs was never going to because he is an ego maniac and is older than Allen even though he has never really accomplished anything Diggs carries himself like he has. it sucks they didn't get at least a pick for this year and moved a fourth rounder along with him. The trade feels like the bills were desperate to move him because he is such a weirdo ego maniac who always speaks in code and can not ever credit anyone else. so this seems to me like they are now going to package that 2nd rounder next year to move up in the first this year....or to get a 3 or two 3's this year. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Draft two guys early and then with Diggs, pretty much, off the books next year and 10M freed up on 6/1.. maybe we have another Hopkins-type watch this Summer. 1 Quote
0017 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Based on Diggs tweets and IG the last couple weeks, this has been in the works for a while. You can bet Beane took his time and has a couple different plans in place to make the team better! He always has a master plan, I just hope it’s better than the Kelvan Benjamin plan 😳 and I think it will. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: "By the book", yes. But Houston can take on whatever they want, and even send us straight up cash. Correct, it’s been done before with high profile QB trades that we’ve seen in the past. The team acquiring the player will literally agree to pay some of the dead cap. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, DasNootz said: I assume the valued the draft capital to move up this month more than the cap burden savings of waiting until after the draft. Yup - plus you can't trade diggs to anyone. But there are teams in the top 10/15 that would absolutely value an extra 1st round pick in 2025. Doing this trade to acquire 2 2nd's in 2025 makes it a beat easier to stomach losing a 2nd 1st rounder. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted April 3 Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Or he‘s an a-hole and they wanted him gone. Storming out on McD last year? Broken relationship with Josh? (Though Diggs was right about the focus point last year.) Raincloud bad attitude? Making everyone walk on eggshells around him to handle his jerkiness? Adios. I thank him for his service, but it was time for him to GTFO and take his act elsewhere. On to a happier workplace. Yeah, that's possible, there's definitely more to this than we know. Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 3 Posted April 3 I know it is early but can anyone tell me what this means cap wise, more so for 2025? Thank you in advance. Quote
SectionC3 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: There has to be a Huge back story we don't know about. The compensation seems like Beane wanted to be rid of him & his cao hit. Either Diggs really wanted out & it was worse than we know (like his production went down bc he quit) OR Beane thinks he's cooked & not worth the $. I'm sure there could be other options too. It seems like a sudden rash trade. Winner winner chicken dinner. 1 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted April 3 Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, PBF81 said: LOL, Samuel's had plenty of opportunity to be HUGE and has never even sniffed those results. 7 seasons to be precise. The trade compensation was this year's 6th and next year's 2nd and 5th. And you're right, Samuel's role is now HUGE, but honestly, anyone expecting that to materialize in the way that we need is going to be incredibly disappointed. Who's the best QB Samuel has had to work with? This will be a John Brown type of surprise. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: How does Greg know all the financial details when they havent come out yet? Quote
appoo Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Brian Higgins hair said: I’m guessing Rome O, and I don’t think it takes more than trading 1sts and the 25 2nd. Likely won’t get out of the top 12-15 Quote
Mark Vader Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: This years first and second, next years first and two seconds. That'll move you up quite a ways and would be very attractive to a developing team. Only took me half a second to come up with that scenario. That's a big maybe, considering how late those picks could be. Took me the same time to come up with that response. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 2 minutes ago, boyst said: this is where i am at. i want to hear what Beane says and more information to come out. there has been a lot of smoke and there was probably always a fire considering shipping him out. the extension we put him on years ago wasn't even used yet - so that is the most confounding part. we are reacting now after trying to bring him in for a long time. that extension was pure garbage to react early and now we are who knows where. Yup. The extension was a reaction to pressure from Diggs and now the trade is a reaction to pressure from Diggs (Houston was his preferred destination) and so Beane has just put a “kick me” sign on his own nuts. All of the agents know now that Beane is easy to manipulate. Edited April 3 by Coach Tuesday 1 1 2 1 Quote
Wags67 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, <bills4life> said: Umm yeah…. There was this guy once named Andre reed As well as Moulds! 2 1 Quote
K D Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: It’s not a bad trade given his age and contract - it was a bad contract given his age and antics. And because of the contract it makes it a bad trade. Both can be true Quote
33yearBillsFan Posted April 3 Posted April 3 You guys are making way too much out of this. Diggs has a ***** attitude, plus his output has declined each year. He wanted a trade, never happy, I’m glad he’s gone. For the record we’re currently trying to trade for Brandon Aiyuk from San Fran, that’s an upgrade in my book. Quote
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