Diggs traded to Texans for picks

[Jrb1979]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If I'm a Houston fan.. I'm not exactly loving this deal now.  

 

Even at 18M or whatever per year, they had control of Diggs for multiple years on what essentially becomes team options given the lack of guaranteed money. 

 

Now it's a rental.. for the Vikings '25 RD2 pick with some Day 3 picks in return.

 

Steep price.

 

Not if they win a Super Bowl. 

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Of course it does, but he was a role player, and a very good one, just not some all-time elite player that folks make him out to be. He wasn't a top player when he played and he wasn't anywhere near Diggs level. I'm not the one that started this argument but all the folks who insist on turning it into a good thing that our #1 WR is now Curtis Samuel insist on digging the hole deeper.


We'll survive without Diggs, but the narrative and agenda being created here is WILD. The whole thing is a joke honestly.

 

He was a 7 time Pro Bowler in a era where Pro Bowl meant something.  He was a 2 time Second Team All Pro.  4 Time All AFC Team.  Yes, he was a top player.

Edited April 4 by Royale with Cheese

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Not if they win a Super Bowl. 

 

Is he the ticket?

[Sweats]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

To me, that's the clincher.

 

In 2020, he was AMAZEBALLS in the playoffs.  Deadly.  Lights out.

In 2021, he was OK against NE but 3 of 6 for 7 yards in the "13 seconds" game.  

In 2022, when he slumped in the 2nd half of the season, 4 of 10 for 35 yds in the Bengals debacle.  

In 2023, similar 2nd half slump, 3 of 8 for 21 yards in the KC loss.  

 

Once is an occurance, twice could be a coincidence, three times is a pattern.

 

 

 

It looked to me that somewhere along the way, he lost his drive, his passion or even his willingness to even be a part of this team. He always looked fairly dominant throughout the season, but when the post-season came along, complete vanishing act.....and then he has the balls to stand on the sidelines and yell at JA or stand in the endzone with his arms in the air that he wasn't targeted. 

 

I, for one, am happy he's gone.......i didn't really like him in Minny and hated even more when he came over to us......and i just thought, "really?!?.....is this really the best we can do?"

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Is he the ticket?

No but he does make the receiving group much better than it was before. Honestly I hope he excels. 

[78thealltimegreat]

Man Houston wiping out his deal is something they don’t that much of him then 

[Nihilarian]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If I'm a Houston fan.. I'm not exactly loving this deal now.  

 

Even at 18M or whatever per year, they had control of Diggs for multiple years on what essentially becomes team options given the lack of guaranteed money. 

 

Now it's a rental.. for the Vikings '25 RD2 pick with some Day 3 picks in return.

 

Steep price.

 

You should love it as a Texans fan. Diggs is going to be a nice addition to Nico Collins, and Tank Dell.  He won't be the focal point of that offense so he should do better. If he has an attitude or sucks this season he can be a Cowboy next season. Not locked into a problem child. 

 

Seems like when Diggs doesn't want to be with a team he doesn't stay...and he was getting ready to be a problem again in Buffalo.

[sonyab1974]

Yeah wow! It's shocking to me! I did not see that one coming. Josh Allen better not be leaving!!!

[PromoTheRobot]

5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

No but he does make the receiving group much better than it was before. Honestly I hope he excels. 

 

I don't because of the way he carried himself these last two years, the cryptic nonsense. The Texans better stay on his good side.

Edited April 4 by PromoTheRobot

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

You should love it as a Texans fan. Diggs is going to be a nice addition to Nico Collins, and Tank Dell.  He won't be the focal point of that offense so he should do better. If he has an attitude or sucks this season he can be a Cowboy next season. Not locked into a problem child. 

 

Seems like when Diggs doesn't want to be with a team he doesn't stay...and he was getting ready to be a problem again in Buffalo.

 

Were they ever locked into it though?  There wasn't much guaranteed money left on his deal after this year.  It essentially became year to year options at 18M.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but that seems to be how it was presented before they tore it up. 

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

[ESPN] Sources: Texans wipe out final three seasons on Stefon Diggs' deal

 

From the article:

 

“With the contract adjustment, the Texans now anticipate getting the best version of Stefon Diggs, who will be in position to negotiate another long-term contract next offseason.“

 

Apparently they understand him already.  

[Logic]

Anyone know if the Texans voiding the final years of the contract affects the Bills in any way, from a salary cap/dead cap standpoint?

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

From the article:

 

“With the contract adjustment, the Texans now anticipate getting the best version of Stefon Diggs, who will be in position to negotiate another long-term contract next offseason.“

 

Apparently they understand him already.  

 

 

 

Well, if Minny and the Bills are any barometer, it's not hard to forecast the future with this man.

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I don't because of the way he carried himself these last two years, the cryptic nonsense. The Texans better stay on his good side.

I'm sure he will be on his best behavior the first season. If they get to a Super Bowl or win it this season with him a loss of a 2nd round pick would be worth it. 

[billsfan89]

It's a good long term move and a bad short term one. And in a league where decisions are judged frequently by how things are impacting the right here right now the Texans are going to get all the praise here and the Bills are getting the short end of the stick most of the time. 

 

But looking at this from a long term perspective I think the Bills made the right move. They not only acquire a premium draft pick (a pick likely to be in the top 10 of the second round) but also free up a lot of cap space. Pundits are saying "the Bills are eating 31 million in dead cap" yeah but that money would have already been tied up with Diggs this year anyway. They were already paying Diggs 27ish million this year so that's kind of already a sunk cost. So it amounts to the Bills taking on a small additional dead cap hit this season (about 3-4 million from what I am reading) to both acquire a premium draft selection (a likely high second swapped for a 5th and 6th) and put themselves in a much better situation with salary cap space going forward. 

 

The Texans due to having Stroud on a rookie deal for 3 more years plus a 5th year option are in a position to take on risk. If Diggs has 2 more elite years left they will be happy even if it means overpaying him in 2026 and taking a small dead cap charge in 2027 along with giving up a good pick. If Diggs has 1 more elite year left and then declines the Texans probably won't be happy having to overpay him in 2025 and take a big cap hit in 2026 but they can stomach that risk and still be a competitive team. Then the upside of Diggs having 3 or less likely 4 elite seasons left would certainly be worth it for the Texans. Even if Diggs is a complete disaster there and declines in 2024 the Texans can absorb the risk and still make other moves. 

 

Whereas the Bills are looking at really sandbagging their team for years if Diggs can't give them at least 2 more elite seasons. The Bills made the move of probably getting rid of a player a year too early which is what prudent front offices do. Toss in the off-field stuff and the Bills getting a premium pick and a ton of future cap space and it makes sense for the Bills to just draft a couple of WR's one early and one in the mid-rounds in a WR rich draft and go forward from there. 

[MAJBobby]

 

[billsfan89]

7 minutes ago, sonyab1974 said:

Yeah wow! It's shocking to me! I did not see that one coming. Josh Allen better not be leaving!!!

 

If Josh wanted Diggs to stay he would be here. I think Diggs wore thin on Josh and he gave the green light for them to trade him. 

[MAJBobby]

21 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Diggs has 4 years left on his contract.... this really isn't a rental situation. 

 

HOU can cut/trade him at any time with no dead cap 

Nope Rental. Hou redid his contract. Gave him a raise and made the contract 1 year. 

[May Day 10]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

From the article:

 

“With the contract adjustment, the Texans now anticipate getting the best version of Stefon Diggs, who will be in position to negotiate another long-term contract next offseason.“

 

Apparently they understand him already.  

 

Which means he may be even more desperate for targets and flip out when the other guys get them

[billsfan89]

18 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If I'm a Houston fan.. I'm not exactly loving this deal now.  

 

Even at 18M or whatever per year, they had control of Diggs for multiple years on what essentially becomes team options given the lack of guaranteed money. 

 

Now it's a rental.. for the Vikings '25 RD2 pick with some Day 3 picks in return.

 

Steep price.

 

 

I actually love it more if I am a Houston fan. Their risk is fairly low. If Diggs balls out and has an elite season he's going to be a 32 year old free agent he's not going to command a huge 3+ year deal. WR's usually don't have many prime seasons left after age 33. The Texans can still get a 5th round comp pick for him which would amount to the Texans trading a 2nd round pick from Minny for a 6th round pick, two 5th round picks and an elite year of WR play. 

 

What I would have feared if I were the Texans was Diggs declining rapidly in 2024 or 2025 and the Texans having to take a big hit on the cap to dump him or have him be an overpaid role player for a season. Now that fear is largely eliminated.