Turk71 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 If I recall all this correctly; his contract before they gave him an extension in 2022 would have expired after last season. No dead cap, just a mutual parting of ways. I remember thinking that the extension didn't seem necessary, he was already under contract for that season and the next. The new contract saved them $6 million in cap space that year. Now they trade him for a future pick and take the biggest one year dead cap hit for a WR in the history of the league. $31 million of your cap gone for no player at all. In all likelihood throw away your chances for an entire year for absolutely nothing. He was already under contract through last season. That's some real brilliant chess Quote
davefan66 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 8 hours ago, Seventeen said: Isn't 31 mil in dead cap a cap nightmare ? Not really. His 28 million salary was on the cap regardless if Diggs was here or not. That doesn’t change. Only 4 million dead money was added to the cap this year. Plus we get a ton of cap relief next season. Beane got himself in a place where he had cap space and made the best move for the team. Remember, there is another 10 million more in cap space after Tre’s post June 1 hits the books. Yes, it may keep us from signing a big money WR. Unless, they get creative in pushing dollars to the backend of a new guys contract. Expect as least 2 receivers to be drafted in the higher rounds for sure and another FA. The question that needs to be asked is, are the Bills better or worse after trading Diggs? I say the same, or better. I admit I was shocked and saddened when I saw he was traded. But one must look at his stats and impact on the team. Stats - production dropped off at the end of last season for sure. Couple that with less than stellar playoff stats. And not just this past years playoffs. We will get another receiver. With that new guy, and our existing guys, Josh will continue to have success. Impact - Cap relief next year. And if the stories are true that he was a cancer in the locker room, better off he is gone. 1 Quote
Freak-O Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: If I recall all this correctly; his contract before they gave him an extension in 2022 would have expired after last season. No dead cap, just a mutual parting of ways. I remember thinking that the extension didn't seem necessary, he was already under contract for that season and the next. The new contract saved them $6 million in cap space that year. Now they trade him for a future pick and take the biggest one year dead cap hit for a WR in the history of the league. $31 million of your cap gone for no player at all. In all likelihood throw away your chances for an entire year for absolutely nothing. He was already under contract through last season. That's some real brilliant chess In 2022 he wanted to be here and the Bills thought he was good so they extended him. Now he doesn’t and they don’t. He’s not old enough to warrant this drop off in production. Is it easy to always be right in hindsight? Yes. 1 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Nobody ever talked about Big Game Diggs did they When it really mattered, postseasons, it was other receivers that stepped up. First Davis, then Shakir. 1 1 Quote
BeastMaster Posted April 4 Posted April 4 7 hours ago, FireChans said: DC’s weren’t sweating Diggs 40 YPG output near the end there. Sneed gets put on Diggs and erases him for 4 Q’s. He’s closer to an afterthought than you think. You're mistaken if you think that defensive coordinators weren't prioritizing the coverage of Diggs before anyone else Calling him closer to an afterthought is simply sour grapes on your part 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Be a McDermott fan boy if you want. Others on here agree with me As for my other points, is the failure to adequately address the OL an unfair criticism? The only redeeming factor for Epenesa is he is only 25. He had 2.5 sacks in the final ten weeks of the year. Again started the season strong and was a non-factor the rest of the way. He had 1 tackle and no sacks in 2023 playoffs. Terrible decision to bring him back. I've generally given Beane high marks for his off-season moves. As he said today, the Bills are worse today after this move. If he thinks Shakir, Kincaid, and Samuel can replace Diggs as he was implying he is insane. But he is lying. He will trade up and draft a WR. That is his MO. He burns picks to move up and get a guy he wants. The only thing left to be seen is how much he gives up and how high he goes up. It has nothing to do with being a McDermott fan boy and everything to do with you being an incessant whiner. Over and over again, your posts just read like a middle school girl, occasionally you provide a little more depth, but it’s tired. As for your second part pointing out that the Bills are worse after trading Diggs, as if that’s something that Brandon Beane doesn’t think is true? He said it today in the press conference. You’re choosing to incorrectly read between the lines and then skip real words that came out of the man’s mouth. Your separate thread about your emotional attachment proves the point. Edited April 4 by JGMcD2 2 1 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 35 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: You're mistaken if you think that defensive coordinators weren't prioritizing the coverage of Diggs before anyone else Calling him closer to an afterthought is simply sour grapes on your part were they more worried about him than gabe? Sure. were they up at night trying to figure out how to contain tyreek or Jefferson when they came to Buffalo? No way. Quote
eball Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: If he thinks Shakir, Kincaid, and Samuel can replace Diggs as he was implying he is insane He implied nothing of the sort. He repeatedly said, “it’s not September.” 2 2 Quote
babulator Posted April 4 Posted April 4 I mentioned it earlier in the thread, I saw another discussion about the dead cap hit, but who were we going to sign? What big FA's were left for us to sign? Unless Beane was banking on making some blockbuster player trade this year, it makes more sense to take the entire cap hit this year. Ideally, we move up and get the WR we want in the draft and free up a boat load of money next year. 1 Quote
Pete Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 minute ago, babulator said: I mentioned it earlier in the thread, I saw another discussion about the dead cap hit, but who were we going to sign? What big FA's were left for us to sign? Unless Beane was banking on making some blockbuster player trade this year, it makes more sense to take the entire cap hit this year. Ideally, we move up and get the WR we want in the draft and free up a boat load of money next year. We are gonna double dip on the greatest WR class ever! 2 1 Quote
babulator Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, Pete said: We are gonna double dip on the greatest WR class ever! It definitely changes the draft outlook for sure. 🤞 Quote
aristocrat Posted April 4 Posted April 4 hoping we can sign justin simmons somehow so we can really double dip on wide receivers in this draft with the defense all set. would love a trade up for brian thomas and see who is left in the second round 1 Quote
papazoid Posted April 4 Posted April 4 only Josh is irreplaceable the bills can win with or without diggs. 1 Quote
finn Posted April 4 Posted April 4 7 hours ago, Beck Water said: Factually, Diggs was #7 in receptions and #6 in targets this past season. #10 in TD and 1D. But in terms of Y/G, falls to #17 and Y/R falls to #67. His catch-rate percentage is pretty mediocre, too: 68%. Compare that rate to his teammate Shakir catching ball from the QB: 86.7%. Let's put this all together. Diggs was (and is) earning the second highest salary on the team, drawing a huge percentage of targets. Yet last year he caught a far lower percentage than any of his teammates, except long-ball Davis, he's a distraction, he disappears in the playoffs, and he's washed. Beane was right to flush him. He extended Diggs when he was a top receiver, not knowing he would bottom out so quickly, which happens. To be blunt, his production is no longer worth the money or his whining, which was going to only increase as he declines. Take the hit and move on. 1 Quote
juno999 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Turk71 said: If I recall all this correctly; his contract before they gave him an extension in 2022 would have expired after last season. No dead cap, just a mutual parting of ways. I remember thinking that the extension didn't seem necessary, he was already under contract for that season and the next. The new contract saved them $6 million in cap space that year. Now they trade him for a future pick and take the biggest one year dead cap hit for a WR in the history of the league. $31 million of your cap gone for no player at all. In all likelihood throw away your chances for an entire year for absolutely nothing. He was already under contract through last season. That's some real brilliant chess Diggs appeared to be on board the first 2 seasons and then the drama kicked in after the contract extension. It must have been pretty bad for them to trade him and take that kind of cap hit. Quote
Rigotz Posted April 4 Posted April 4 All the people saying “a 2nd round pick next year is only valued at a 3rd” will be thanking the heavens when the Vikings draft top 5 next year. A 2nd round pick is a 2nd round pick. Have a little patience. 5 3 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted April 4 Posted April 4 19 minutes ago, babulator said: I mentioned it earlier in the thread, I saw another discussion about the dead cap hit, but who were we going to sign? What big FA's were left for us to sign? Unless Beane was banking on making some blockbuster player trade this year, it makes more sense to take the entire cap hit this year. . A WR who fits may become available after the draft , Beane said that. Then there is post June 1 cuts. While hope is not a strategy, the likelihood of one of the two occuring is pretty high given the plethora of good WRs coming into the league via draft. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 12 minutes ago, Rigotz said: All the people saying “a 2nd round pick next year is only valued at a 3rd” will be thanking the heavens when the Vikings draft top 5 next year. A 2nd round pick is a 2nd round pick. Have a little patience. 50/50 chance Beane uses the pick in a deal to move up this year in Round 1 or 2 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, Turk71 said: If I recall all this correctly; his contract before they gave him an extension in 2022 would have expired after last season. No dead cap, just a mutual parting of ways. I remember thinking that the extension didn't seem necessary, he was already under contract for that season and the next. The new contract saved them $6 million in cap space that year. Now they trade him for a future pick and take the biggest one year dead cap hit for a WR in the history of the league. $31 million of your cap gone for no player at all. In all likelihood throw away your chances for an entire year for absolutely nothing. He was already under contract through last season. That's some real brilliant chess Wasn't that extension more for creating cap space? It's also pretty disingenuous to call a lack of ESP being a bad GM. Edited April 4 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
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