Diggs traded to Texans for picks

[JoshAllin]

I do not see the texans doing anything next season comparable to the last as it looked flukey to me. With Diggs there I could see a nice little blow up when things start going south there with him. On one hand I wish he stood and worked things out on the other he was a cancer that needed to be cut

Edited April 4 by JoshAllin

[Ya Digg?]

11 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Ever watch a QB constantly target a WR and nobody can stop it...kinda like Mahomes to Tyreek Hill or TE Travis Kelec? 

 

Buffalo needs a WR / TE that can get open and catch the ball no matter who is covering them like the two above. Diggs was good, but he wasn't that guy. Look at his stats in the playoffs the last few seasons and he does nothing in those games. Not worth 24 million a year to disappear in the playoffs.

 

From Jerry Jabber:

There’s a saying in the NFL, you’re only as good as your last game. Here’s Diggs’ stats in the last four playoff losses.

 

6 rec, 77 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 7 yards, 0 TD

4 rec, 35 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 21 yards, 0 TD

 

Beane has a plan! 

Wait hold on-Diggs has been quiet in the playoffs???? How has no one ever mentioned this before?!?!?!

[BuffaloRebound]

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Not sure if it was posted already and not reading this entire thread to find out

 

 

The timing makes no sense for the Bills unless we’re accumulating trade capital.  On its own, we’re getting a 2025 2nd rounder and have to take the full Diggs cap hit this year.  Might as well wait to trade him after June 1st if you’re only getting a 2025 pick anyway.  

[Richard Noggin]

18 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I will say that the Texans on paper have quite an offense. I will also say they’re playing a dangerous game imo. 
 

They have a clearly ascending player in CJ Stroud going into his second year and looks like a future star. The dangerous game is they added two players who are known as malcontents in Diggs and Mixon surrounding him who can wear and take a toll on a young QB and team of things aren’t going their way. 

 

Neither Diggs nor Mixon has EVER been a "malcontent" in their first years with a given team. Let's not be sloppy and wrong with how to look at Mixon's deplorable off-field violence (makes him a doosh but hasn't impacted his ability to be a pro on a winning team) and Diggs' regrettable sideline and social media insider trading/signaling (didn't even exist in Buffalo in first two seasons--until 13 seconds and his first playoff disappearing act). 

 

Mixon was a major part of the offensive equation that allowed Burrow to ascend in Cincinnati, and Diggs was a MAJOR part of the offensive AND PERSONAL equation that allowed Allen to ascend in Buffalo. Both equations have changed over the years, and both teams have chosen to move on. 

[dave mcbride]

15 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Ever watch a QB constantly target a WR and nobody can stop it...kinda like Mahomes to Tyreek Hill or TE Travis Kelec? 

 

Buffalo needs a WR / TE that can get open and catch the ball no matter who is covering them like the two above. Diggs was good, but he wasn't that guy. Look at his stats in the playoffs the last few seasons and he does nothing in those games. Not worth 24 million a year to disappear in the playoffs.

 

From Jerry Jabber:

There’s a saying in the NFL, you’re only as good as your last game. Here’s Diggs’ stats in the last four playoff losses.

 

6 rec, 77 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 7 yards, 0 TD

4 rec, 35 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 21 yards, 0 TD

 

Beane has a plan! 

All true, but I feel it’s very necessary to say that Diggs’s catch of the two point conversion that put the Bills up 29-26 in the 13 seconds game was a) not recorded as a catch and b) an effing spectacular catch. Plus while it wasn’t with the Bills, he made the best postseason catch-and-run td reception in this millennium.

[NoSaint]

16 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Not sure if it was posted already and not reading this entire thread to find out

 

 

they wouldn’t have restructured him if they thought this was in the pipeline 

 

but ultimately, it’s just shifting money between 2023 and 2024 for c’est La vie 

[Warriorspikes51]

It’s too bad we couldn’t get their higher 2nd this year.  I’d imagine the Vikings 2nd in 2025 could be sold to another team in a trade up as a likely top 40 pick though

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

So lets run it back, that should work

 

Yup, if everyone just lowered their expectations, yes, yes it would.  

 

 

[dave mcbride]

36 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It was a 2025 2nd round.  The usual practice is a future year's pick is considered to be a round lower, to compensate

 

Fair point, and I’ve always thought this way. BUT the reason I’ve thought that way is that GMs and coaches are always close to being fired, and giving up a year in terms of a delay on a pick is from their perspective an increase in the chances they’ll be fired. The assumed discount in this sort of situation has always related to the decline in job security for decision makers/coaches. In the case of Beane and McDermott, though, I don’t think that’s remotely a possibility. They will be with the Bills in 2025. 

1 minute ago, PBF81 said:

 

Yup, if everyone just lowered their expectations, yes, yes it would.  

 

 

Dude, this line of argument is so tired. Give it a rest, seriously.

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

I think you need to rewatch that Super Bowl.

 

Sorry, meant New England.  

 

 

[ghostwriter]

27 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Ever watch a QB constantly target a WR and nobody can stop it...kinda like Mahomes to Tyreek Hill or TE Travis Kelec? 

 

Buffalo needs a WR / TE that can get open and catch the ball no matter who is covering them like the two above. Diggs was good, but he wasn't that guy. Look at his stats in the playoffs the last few seasons and he does nothing in those games. Not worth 24 million a year to disappear in the playoffs.

 

From Jerry Jabber:

There’s a saying in the NFL, you’re only as good as your last game. Here’s Diggs’ stats in the last four playoff losses.

 

6 rec, 77 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 7 yards, 0 TD

4 rec, 35 yards, 0 TD

3 rec, 21 yards, 0 TD

 

Beane has a plan! 

And Diggs is going to be 31 in November.. Realistically, how many good years does he have left?

[Nelius]

9 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Anyone that grades a pick an 'A' where one team gives up a top 7 player at their position, $30M in cap space and two day 3 picks to receive a future 2nd round pick in compensation is delusional. For that to be an A, you'd have to be talking a first round pick or multiple early day 2 picks and a prospect with no other compensation going back the other way.

Lololol top 7…C’mon. He hasn’t been near the top 15 for a year plus, a point you’d likely agree with if Diggs was still a Bill right now, considering that you’ve happily gone full contrarian mode on all topics.
 

It’s like as soon as Airseven either got banned or jumped off a cliff, Bull over here saw an opening to finally become the heel that he always dreamed of becoming. 
 

Top 7 lololol

[CaptnCoke11]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

The timing makes no sense for the Bills unless we’re accumulating trade capital.  On its own, we’re getting a 2025 2nd rounder and have to take the full Diggs cap hit this year.  Might as well wait to trade him after June 1st if you’re only getting a 2025 pick anyway.  

No such thing as post June 1st savings with a trade 

[MasterStrategist]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

It’s too bad we couldn’t get their higher 2nd this year.  I’d imagine the Vikings 2nd in 2025 could be sold to another team in a trade up as a likely top 40 pick though

Agree, but as Beane said in presser: "that's the best we could get"

 

Honestly, I don't see us moving up this year.  Deep class, we have holes/depth concerns at too many spots where we need young/cost controlled contracts.

 

I don't necessarily think we are throwing in the towel for 2024, but Beane is resetting the cap issue and likely won't go all in on anything right now.

 

2025, that's another story.  We will have alot of cap room, even after working on re-signing our own young talent. With an extra 2nd round pick, that's likely to be a very good pick.  I see us competing this year, getting some young guys more experience.  2025 is our best opportunity.  Get a couple young WRs, a DT or DE, and a S to groom out of this draft (in no particular order)

[NoSaint]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

The timing makes no sense for the Bills unless we’re accumulating trade capital.  On its own, we’re getting a 2025 2nd rounder and have to take the full Diggs cap hit this year.  Might as well wait to trade him after June 1st if you’re only getting a 2025 pick anyway.  

that of course risking that the market dries up 

 

and if we were making another free agent splash with this years dollars we could’ve converted more of joshs salary to offset this 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

15 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Not sure if it was posted already and not reading this entire thread to find out

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

The timing makes no sense for the Bills unless we’re accumulating trade capital.  On its own, we’re getting a 2025 2nd rounder and have to take the full Diggs cap hit this year.  Might as well wait to trade him after June 1st if you’re only getting a 2025 pick anyway.  

 

We all understand that Diggs' 2024 cap hit is only $3M more now than it would have been with him here, right? I fear when fans read "dead cap hit" they imagine some additional cap penalty for moving him. It's basically the same as him being here, but now the Bills will save mucho cap space in 2025 and beyond. 

 

I'm excited to see Joe Brady calling plays, and Josh Allen distributing the football, COMPLETELY FREE of selfish egos in the huddle and on the sideline. The Diggs+Allen political marriage had obviously fractured over the years. Time to let Josh lead the ticket in this election cycle. I like Kincaid as a potential WR1a, with Samuel as WR1b, and some weekly blend of a 1st rd rookie WR, Shakir, and Cook as WR3s, depending on the matchups and tendencies. 

 

KC has won b2b championships with Kelce as WR1 and a mix of WRs and RBs filling roles behind him. I like the Bills going for something similar but with a more consistent and dangerous and multiple run game to boot. Gotta have multiple solutions to every problem NFL defensive coordinators throw out you in a given season. 

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Are you basically saying the Ravens offense wasn’t good that year?  Yes or no the Ravens were 7th in the league scoring that year? 

 

What did I say?  

 

That's what I said.  

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Could we see any other moves for picks?

 

Rasul Douglas? Dawson Knox? 
 

not saying I’d be in favor or against

 

maybe each of those players could get a 4th though?

 

Dare I say it… Milano? I wouldn’t want to move him, curious what value teams would put on him

Edited April 4 by Warriorspikes51

[NickelCity]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Could we see any other moves for picks?

 

Rasul Douglas? Dawson Knox? 
 

not saying I’d be in favor or against

 

maybe each of those players could get a 4th though?

 

Dare I say it… Milano? I wouldn’t want to move him, curious what value teams would put on him

 

I got to give it to ya, you do love a trade

[Shortchaz]

This trade makes the Texans better and the bills worse this year. 
 

addition by subtraction isn’t likely this year. 
 

hopefully this pays off 2-3 years from now for the bills. 
 

I can see beane trading up in the first round for something splashy. I’d rather they trade down and try to acquire even more 2025 draft capital.

 

This team is only going as far as Milano takes them this year.