Diggs traded to Texans for picks

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 minute ago, 4thandGoal said:

I do not think we are the ones getting the 5th and 6th--- I believe we are sending those to Houston

ah, my bad. I misread that.

[boyst]

i would have preferred a player involved in this so we can at least say we got a shinny new object to obsess over. even if a backup LS.

[KOKBILLS]

3 minutes ago, buffblue said:

We were at a 27-28 million hit before the trade. Now it's 31 million. So only a few million additional cap hit was added. It's just all dead now

 

Oh...OK I see... Much better way of explaining it. Thanks! 

[uticaclub]

1 minute ago, Pirate Angel said:

When they traded Watkins and Darby the same belief was had by many

We got way more back and didn’t lose the dead cap. Also a Whaley move, not Bad Move Beane

[LarryMadman]

1 minute ago, Allen2Moulds said:

So would Moulds.

Maybe Lee Evans too

[TheFunPolice]

pending the results of the draft the Jets (if healthy) could actually win this division this year. 

 

they won 7 games without playing offense last season 

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We started that 3rd Q by going 75 yards for a TD in 4 minutes.  Diggs was not on the field.  

 

Yup. I hope that watching it from the sidelines in the midst of his tantrum made him feel stupid. But knowing his personality I'm sure it didn't change a thing in his ego poisoned mind.

[Mango]

49 minutes ago, muppy said:

ahem well who are you to chastise anybody. Get a grip on your high horse there pal. SMH  

 

I am not your buddy pal. 

It isn't a high horse. I merely pointed out that nearly an entire year went by where dozens of posters explained that Diggs contract is actually very movable if the Bills wanted to. Some posters just plugged their ears. 

Edited April 3 by Mango

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, Pirate Angel said:

When they traded Watkins and Darby the same belief was had by many

Diggs was 1000000% better than Watkins

[Last Guy on the Bench]

10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

But teams can go outside of that formula. It literally happened when Texans traded Osweiler to Cleveland just to get his guaranteed money off their books.

I don't think so. Browns took on the guaranteed salary that was still owed, not bonuses that had already been paid out. Don't think you can do the latter. Of course you can trade any future obligations. But not past payments. The dead cap is all the bonus money already paid out to Diggs but prorated over the life of the contract in terms of cap accounting - can no longer be prorated because we don't hold the contract anymore, so all the money left to be prorated gets immediately acclerated to this year's cap. But again, it's just accounting for money that has already been spent (paid to Diggs).

[MikePJ76]

man i just checked and backwards hat guy on youtube is deep in the analysis of this.

[PBF81]

14 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

He ain’t gonna be any worse than diggs was the second half of last year to be fair 😂. This could be anything between ‘Texans fleeced us’ to ‘we fleeced the Texans’ depending on what diggs has left in the tank lol 

 

You sure about that?  

 

Diggs played slot half the time under Brady.  Is that really where Diggs should have been playing?  If Diggs posts another huge season in Houston, with what appears to be the next great QB, this trade is going to make McBeane look like morons and it will say even less for Brady.  

 

We'll see.  But for Samuel to even match Diggs' numbers under Brady, on average for a season, he'll have to post a season that's pretty close to his career best and better than 6 of his 7 seasons.  Samuel will be fine, but he's not going to replace Diggs.  

 

We are about to find out though.  

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Houston is building their team right. Going all in on OFFENSE. This is an offensive league and whoever scores the most points wins. The Bills are trying to run the ball more and play good defense. Someone needs to tell this isn't 2005

 
The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl as the #15 in offensive scoring.

[Roundybout]

 

The only thing that would make me happy right now 

 

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Houston is building their team right. Going all in on OFFENSE. This is an offensive league and whoever scores the most points wins. The Bills are trying to run the ball more and play good defense. Someone needs to tell this isn't 2005

Running the ball and playing good defense is how the two superbowl teams play. KC has been prioritizing their defense for awhile, expending high draft picks. They started prioritizing running the ball and that freed up their offense more, especially with the lack of talent they have at receiver. And, of course, the 49ers run the ball and prioritize defense too.

 

It's not 2015 anymore. It's 2024.

[Pirate Angel]

2 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

We got way more back and didn’t lose the dead cap. Also a Whaley move, not Bad Move Beane

No it wasn't a Whaley move

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Last Guy on the Bench said:

I don't think so. Browns took on the guaranteed salary that was still owed, not bonuses that had already been paid out. Don't think you can do the latter. Of course you can trade any future obligations. But not past payments. The dead cap is all the bonus money already paid out to Diggs but prorated over the life of the contract in terms of cap accounting - can no longer be prorated because we don't hold the contract anymore, so all the money left to be prorated gets immediately acclerated to this year's cap. But again, it's just accounting for money that has already been spent (paid to Diggs).

 

Correct. You can't trade money already paid. Reason being it has already been paid. The person in possession of that money that lies on the Bills cap as dead money is Stefon Diggs. 

[london_bills]

Giants are at 6. Maybe we trade to there

[Buddy Hix]

The Diggs extension is a fireable offence by itself. Couple that with other horrible deals (Knox, Miller), and Beane should be canned.

[Neo]

11 minutes ago, cale said:

In what planet does this make sense?

 

1) 2025 2nd round pick

2) 31M in dead cap space

 

Our draft better be a 10/10. Or they just plan to tank.

One that cures you of cancer and sends a down sloping diva to another time zone.   I have more confidence in Beane’s ability to work with a complicated salary structure than a complicated head.   One is predictable, dependable and adds up.   One is unpredictable, undependable, and subtracts.

 

The calculus here is as much “are 51 other guys better or worse with Diggs” as it is  “are we WR1 better or worse with Diggs.”