ngbills Posted April 11 Posted April 11 I do not expect any jail time etc. It will be a suspended license, probation, fines and community service. Kind of ridiculous if you think about it - because he got lucky no one died he does not end up like Ruggs. So the luck of the outcome is what is more important than the action. You should definitely get more severe punishment if someone dies...but if you do the exact same thing and no one dies it should not be the difference between many years in jail and nothing. That wont stop anyone from actually killing someone next time. 5 Quote
SectionC3 Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, muppy said: greetings. My thinking is that by fleeing the accident he did save himself the DUI charges that he allegedly could have had otherwise. It REEKS of being circumstantial he was partying when this all went down So he did get over on that. How much penalty he saved himself by doing that is an interesting thought. Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the circumstances leading up to the collision. If the DA can prove that he was boozing/smoking, and then driving erratically immediately thereafter, then he might have a problem with any crime analogous to what’s called common law DWI in New York State. 1 hour ago, Logic said: Right. But in this case, Rice has admitted full guilt, turned himself in, is fully cooperating, and is going the total contrition, "throw himself on the mercy of the court" route. In these types of cases, it's my understanding that prior legal history and a stance of remorse both play big parts, and Rice has been in absolutely no prior legal trouble, and is at least feigning (if not actually feeling) remorse. At the end of the day, I STILL expect this to be plead down to lesser misdemeanor chargers, a hefty fine and financial restitution paid, no jail time, and no more than four games suspension. Likely just two. That's my prediction and I'm stickin to it! It’s not unheard of for something like this to get resolved through a plea to a misdemeanor, or to multiple misdemeanors. If that’s your definition of special treatment, then . . . We simply may disagree there. I don’t think it’s outrageous to suggest no jail time for something like this. Based on what little I know he probably deserves a little alone time, but a big fine, probation with some onerous terms (no drinking, IID, no drugs, no excessive speeding tix, maybe even a curfew), and perhaps some community service probably does the trick, too. The problem for Rice remains that there’s a lot of people looking at this case now, and he has a raft of pending felonies that the DA may not wish to resolve through a plea to a misdemeanor. So this is going to take a little work. 1 1 Quote
Buckets Posted April 11 Posted April 11 23 hours ago, Beast said: Couldn’t they have waited until after the draft for this? LOL Speaking of the draft, he was a second round pick, #55 Quote
Toyo321 Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) What makes this different was that 4 other innocent people were injured in this street race. Rice if he pleads guilty, to any one of these 5 felonies, he is going to be sued by the drivers that were injured in the crash. That will lead civil trials and multi-million dollar lawsuits. Both of those drivers of the vette and lambo are screwed. He is done playing in the NFL once he goes to court. KC will dump him. Good riddance. Edited April 12 by Toyo321 4 1 Quote
NewEra Posted April 12 Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 4:46 PM, FireChans said: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/rashee-rice-dallas-texas-crash-charges-kansas-city-chiefs-nfl/287-55b4ae10-a0c3-4bc3-b82d-a826d4b80ddf DALLAS — An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies What’s the nervous level at ? @Billl 1 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted April 12 Posted April 12 16 hours ago, Toyo321 said: What makes this different was that 4 other innocent people were injured in this street race. Rice if he pleads guilty, to any one of these 5 felonies, is going to be sued by the drivers that were injured in the crash. That will lead civil trials and multi-million dollar lawsuits. Both of those drivers of the vette and lambo are screwed. He is done playing in the NFL once he goes to court. KC will dump him. Good riddance. I don't know that KC will dump him. Why would they dump him? Rice will be sued by the drivers that were injured in the crash no matter what. A civil lawsuit has a lower standard of proof 'more likely than not', and they have all kinds of evidence. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) On 4/11/2024 at 10:53 AM, Logic said: Right. But in this case, Rice has admitted full guilt, turned himself in, is fully cooperating, and is going the total contrition, "throw himself on the mercy of the court" route. In these types of cases, it's my understanding that prior legal history and a stance of remorse both play big parts, and Rice has been in absolutely no prior legal trouble, and is at least feigning (if not actually feeling) remorse. At the end of the day, I STILL expect this to be plead down to lesser misdemeanor chargers, a hefty fine and financial restitution paid, no jail time, and no more than four games suspension. Likely just two. That's my prediction and I'm stickin to it! Very nice breakdown, but I'm going to go with a 6-8 game suspension. I don't know what the legal standards are to guess prison time or not, but I wouldnt imagine it'd be more than a few months. On the heels of Henry Ruggs and Britt Reid, I think the NFL wants this to look "right" and not like a slap on the wrist. Rice is so lucky no one died. I bet he's on the straight and narrow for the remainder of his career. Edited April 12 by Chicken Boo Quote
Spiderweb Posted April 12 Posted April 12 On 4/11/2024 at 12:13 PM, ngbills said: I do not expect any jail time etc. It will be a suspended license, probation, fines and community service. Kind of ridiculous if you think about it - because he got lucky no one died he does not end up like Ruggs. So the luck of the outcome is what is more important than the action. You should definitely get more severe punishment if someone dies...but if you do the exact same thing and no one dies it should not be the difference between many years in jail and nothing. That wont stop anyone from actually killing someone next time. Injuries count too And there were injuries. Quote
Billl Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, NewEra said: @Billl I’m sure they’ll bury him under the prison, and the Chiefs will tear down the team and relocate to Portland. Before this happened, the Chiefs were the Superbowl favorites at +600. Now they’re the favorites at +550. Edited April 12 by Billl Quote
Toyo321 Posted April 12 Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't know that KC will dump him. Why would they dump him? Rice will be sued by the drivers that were injured in the crash no matter what. A civil lawsuit has a lower standard of proof 'more likely than not', and they have all kinds of evidence. These are all Felony charges and and they are not going to reduce all 5 to misdemeanor counts, if he is convicted of any of the felony charges he's going to jail. Quote
Beck Water Posted April 12 Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: These are all Felony charges and and they are not going to reduce all 5 to misdemeanor counts, if he is convicted of any of the felony charges he's going to jail. I thought there were 8 felony charges? Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Billl said: I’m sure they’ll bury him under the prison, and the Chiefs will tear down the team and relocate to Portland. Before this happened, the Chiefs were the Superbowl favorites at +600. Now they’re the favorites at +550. But.. 1 Quote
Billl Posted April 12 Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: But.. Not sure what you think you’ve done here, but I said he was likely driving the Lambo, and he was. Quote
major Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Both Von Miller and Rice turned themselves in to the Glenn Heights police department. This is a tiny suburb outside of Dallas. Someone should investigate why nfl players turn themselves in there instead of Dallas police or other bigger suburbs Quote
NewEra Posted April 12 Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Billl said: I’m sure they’ll bury him under the prison, and the Chiefs will tear down the team and relocate to Portland. Before this happened, the Chiefs were the Superbowl favorites at +600. Now they’re the favorites at +550. And what does this have to do with all the nonsense you spewed regarding the seriousness of the offenses! 1 1 Quote
julian Posted April 12 Posted April 12 3 hours ago, Billl said: I’m sure they’ll bury him under the prison, and the Chiefs will tear down the team and relocate to Portland. Before this happened, the Chiefs were the Superbowl favorites at +600. Now they’re the favorites at +550. I don’t think anyone believes another POS player will effect their ability to win a championship, if there’s a team who’s shown the ability to win with garbage character, It’s KC. Quote
freddyjj Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Ah the Kansas City Chief Offenders continue their stranglehold on immature, dangerous and knucklehead behavior. Sure the 4 model citizens involved sauntered off as likely Under the Influence, holding some and in possession of firearms. Ain't got time for dat! Quote
Billl Posted April 12 Posted April 12 43 minutes ago, NewEra said: And what does this have to do with all the nonsense you spewed regarding the seriousness of the offenses! What’s changed? They’ll book him, and that will be that. This was always going to happen. I’m curious what you think this means for him. Go on record. Do you think he serves time? Will he play in the NFL this year? 1 Quote
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