Goin Breakdown Posted April 6 Posted April 6 I wonder how high they were when they walked away? In NY we get to worry about texting, smoking and drinking while driving. It's a joy when you have young drivers in your house. I don't lack for worry Quote
Billl Posted April 6 Posted April 6 4 hours ago, Logic said: For what it's worth, I've since seen the "this much pot is a felony!" part redacted, and the correction noted that it is in fact a misdemeanor. Nevertheless, between the pot and his admitting that he was driving the Lambo, chargeable offenses are starting to pile up for Rice. The main questions are: How lenient will the judge be, given that he's a start athlete? How effective will his lawyer be in pleading the deal down to a lesser offense and avoiding jail time? I think that the key determining factor in Rice's NFL career going forward will be whether or not he serves time in jail. If he winds up, say, paying a fine and settling out of court with the victims and doing community service, I think he'll get a 2-6 game suspension, do the usual Mea Culpa token apology tour, and go on with his career. If he serves time in jail, all bets are off. He’s not serving time in jail. What are you on about? 1 Quote
Logic Posted April 6 Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s not serving time in jail. What are you on about? I'm on record here as agreeing with that take. I believe a plea to a lesser charge, a fine, and minimal league discipline is the most likely outcome. I do not believe for a second that Rice will go to jail, because that's not how the American justice system tends to work for rich athletes. Still, the possibility of jail time exists, and to pretend that it doesn't is silly. Quote
MJS Posted April 6 Posted April 6 5 hours ago, Nextmanup said: 1) In due course, pot will be legal everywhere in America, as it should be, though backward states like Texas may be the last to adapt. 2) If we are going to start caring about pot and enforcing anti-pot policies among ALL NFL PLAYERS, there will not be anyone left to play football. Abandoning an accident scene with injured people who were receiving medical care is a serious offense. The pot thing is not worth discussing. It is worth discussing if someone wants to discuss it, and if you don't think it is a factor in this case than you have your head in the sand. It doesn't matter what your own views on pot are. 19 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s not serving time in jail. What are you on about? Of course not, because he is a pro athlete. But if he was a regular guy he would get locked up. 2 Quote
beebe Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Rice will be punished much more severely by the NFL than he will be by the law. I would bet a lot of money on that. Rice's lawyer is a Texas state senator, Rice doesn't have a history of trouble, KC's owner went to the same school as Rice (SMU) and is also the richest man in Dallas with strong ties to the area that remain today. The level of transparency being brought forth by the lawyer suggests to me that they know Rice will get a slap on the wrist based on Texas law and their connections with people that matter. I think the self accountability act is more directed toward the NFL/Goodell. And it will fail. Even though this isn't comparable to the Henry Ruggs case, I think Goodell will want to come down hard on the speeding/reckless driving aspect of this incident and send a message. Minimum suspension: 4 games. Most likely suspension: 6 games. Possible suspension: 8 games. Quote
Beck Water Posted April 7 Posted April 7 5 minutes ago, beebe said: Rice will be punished much more severely by the NFL than he will be by the law. I would bet a lot of money on that. Rice's lawyer is a Texas state senator, Rice doesn't have a history of trouble, KC's owner went to the same school as Rice (SMU) and is also the richest man in Dallas with strong ties to the area that remain today. The level of transparency being brought forth by the lawyer suggests to me that they know Rice will get a slap on the wrist based on Texas law and their connections with people that matter. I think the self accountability act is more directed toward the NFL/Goodell. And it will fail. Even though this isn't comparable to the Henry Ruggs case, I think Goodell will want to come down hard on the speeding/reckless driving aspect of this incident and send a message. Minimum suspension: 4 games. Most likely suspension: 6 games. Possible suspension: 8 games. I'd just like to throw in here that given the way the league has operated in the past, I would predict that Rice's legal team will delay any legal procedings until well into or after the season, and NFL discipline, if any, will be applied to the 2025 season. So nothing to worry about here for the Chiffs. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 4/3/2024 at 7:42 PM, Just Jack said: He says he's sorry.... Rashee Rice: Police say they've now spoken with NFL player about hit-and-run : NPR The people they hit are already getting lawyers. Of course they are . Who wouldn’t ? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 4/5/2024 at 3:42 PM, Low Positive said: With a couple of quick Google searches, it seems that those guys knew the law very well. The possession charge is a class B misdemeanor as is leaving the scene of an accident. Both of those carry small fines and up to 180 days in the county jail. In Rice's favor, I did see that Dallas County has not been prosecuting low-level weed possession cases in recent years. A DUI accident with injuries, OTOH, is a third-degree felony that comes with 2-10 years in prison. The reckless driving is also a class B misdemeanor unless the other party is injured or they can prove that there was racing involved. All told, leaving the scene was a heartless but probably wise move in this case. He's still in a lot of trouble because there where injuries and it's pretty clear that they were racing. All that said, IANAL but I am an academic librarian so I'm pretty good at looking stuff up. In Texas, leaving the scene of an accident where others are injured isn a felony. On 4/5/2024 at 4:49 PM, Nextmanup said: 1) In due course, pot will be legal everywhere in America, as it should be, though backward states like Texas may be the last to adapt. 2) If we are going to start caring about pot and enforcing anti-pot policies among ALL NFL PLAYERS, there will not be anyone left to play football. Abandoning an accident scene with injured people who were receiving medical care is a serious offense. The pot thing is not worth discussing. in then context of DUI, it's obviously worth discussing. Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 8 Posted April 8 21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: In Texas, leaving the scene of an accident where others are injured isn a felony. in then context of DUI, it's obviously worth discussing. Pot worshippers gonna pot worship. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/rashee-rice-dallas-texas-crash-charges-kansas-city-chiefs-nfl/287-55b4ae10-a0c3-4bc3-b82d-a826d4b80ddf DALLAS — An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies What’s the nervous level at ? On 3/31/2024 at 12:39 PM, Billl said: Why would anyone be in custody? It was a traffic accident. There’s pictures of the drivers walking away on foot. The cars have damage, but they aren’t mangled or anything. Sounds like they were being stupid, but nobody’s getting arrested over speeding on the Dallas expressway unless they were driving impaired. On 3/31/2024 at 2:03 PM, Billl said: Punishable with a maximum fine of $10,000 and loss of a license in TX. Nobody is going into custody. On 3/31/2024 at 2:08 PM, Billl said: You think Rice is getting cuffed over this? On 3/31/2024 at 2:23 PM, Billl said: That’s his Corvette, but he wasn’t driving it. The video shows him getting out of the Lambo. He’s the second guy getting out of the Lambo through the passenger door which likely means he was the driver. On 3/31/2024 at 5:02 PM, Billl said: Not “any” injuries. It’s $10k and a potential loss of license if the injuries are minor which they were. Nobody is going to jail over this. Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but worst case scenario is probably a 4 game suspension. There’s literally video of the occupants of the cars getting out and walking away without so much as a limp. Edited April 10 by FireChans 1 1 1 7 Quote
Beck Water Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Wow! I legitimately Did Not See That Coming. I wonder how many "stick" after Rice's best lawyers get on it? Quote
Just Jack Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) Arrest warrant issued https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/rashee-rice-arrest-warrant-dallas-crash/3511545/ Arrest warrants have been issued for NFL player and North Texas native Rashee Rice and another driver in connection with a hit-and-run crash on Central Expressway last month that injured four people, Dallas Police say. Edited April 10 by Just Jack Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10 Posted April 10 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/rashee-rice-dallas-texas-crash-charges-kansas-city-chiefs-nfl/287-55b4ae10-a0c3-4bc3-b82d-a826d4b80ddf DALLAS — An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies What’s the nervous level at ? You can be a whole different level of petty 😂😂😂. I respect it 😂😂. 1 5 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) Of course he was going to be arrested. You can't street race, cause a multi car accident, and flee the scene without being charged with something. It was ridiculous when Chiefs fan in here was like "no one's going to be arrested". Whether the punishment will be severe or not is a different story. But he was always going to be charged. The "serious bodily injury" is interesting as the injuries were always reported as "minor". Though I did say that could simply mean "minor" in the sense that no one died. I also wonder what the "assault" was. Edited April 10 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
FireChans Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: You can be a whole different level of petty 😂😂😂. I respect it 😂😂. 1 9 1 Quote
Beast Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) Couldn’t they have waited until after the draft for this? LOL Edited April 10 by Beast 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 10 Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, Beast said: Couldn’t they have waited until after the draft tor this? LOL Ofc not Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted April 10 Posted April 10 He’ll get a weekend in jail or something idiotic. I have zero faith in the justice system to actually work when it comes to the uber-wealthy and famous. 1 Quote
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