Haason Reddick Traded to Jets

[benderbender]

The Jets currently have the 9th most expensive defense in the NFL before Reddick’s new deal. I hope he takes them to the cleaners.

[BillMafia716ix]

Good get for them. We need a pass rusher in the worst way. Right now we just banking on Von Miller returning to old form at 35 years old. 

[nosejob]

When we land Latu, Sweat and Maason Smith, we'll forget about Reddick. He's due for an injury. I really wanted Huff.

[Not at the table Karlos]

12 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Rumors were that Reddick was unhappy because he wanted a big extension and the Eagles weren't giving him because his best year was 4 years ago and while productive was seeing diminished returns 

 

So hey Banner, load up on aging players on the decline 

Reddick had 16 sacks in 2022. That’s not 4 years ago. 

[dave mcbride]

12 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Who is their OL?

This offseason, they signed Ravens starting guard John Simpson. They traded for Ravens longtime starting RT Morgan Moses. They signed all-pro LT Tyron Smith, who did miss four games last season but was otherwise dominating. They have 2023 2nd round pick Joe Tippman at center, and the highly talented Alijah Vera-Tucker, who is now healthy, will be the other guard.

 

Their problem is no longer offensive line; it’s second receiver. However, this is a great receiver draft and they have the 10th pick.

[SoTier]

9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They’ve been pretty quiet this offseason, just building one of the best rosters in the league. 
 

Say what you want about Saleh but when he arrived they were 2-14 with one of the worst rosters in the league.

 

^^^

 

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

This offseason, they signed Ravens starting guard John Simpson. They traded for Ravens longtime starting RT Morgan Moses. They signed all-pro LT Tyron Smith, who did miss four games last season but was otherwise dominating. They have 2023 2nd round pick Joe Tippman at center, and the highly talented Alijah Vera-Tucker, who is now healthy, will be the other guard.

 

Their problem is no longer offensive line; it’s second receiver. However, this is a great receiver draft and they have the 10th pick.

 

I will address both these posts below:

 

The Jests FO with help from their coaches have again built a great team on paper but we all know that the Jests are the champs of winning the off-season.   They've built a roster filled with lots of expensive, older, often injured players that makes it absolutely necessary for them to make a serious playoff run in 2024 because not only are they're operating in "win now"  mode, but because the owner is likely to fire their collective arses if they fail to make the playoffs again.

 

Salah simply hasn't shown that he's a good enough HC to even get his team to the playoffs much less win in the post-season.   The AFC remains significantly tougher than the NFC, so just getting to the playoffs will be hard.  In the AFCE, the Jets likely have to get past the Bills and/or Fins to grab a playoff berth.  It's likely that multiple AFCN teams make the playoffs again (three made the playoffs last season, including 1 with a backup QB and the other with a pretty poor starting QB).  

 

Moreover, several of the moves the Jests made last season, most notably signing Rodgers' buddies and then failing to sign an adequate back QB after Rodgers' injury, suggests that there's dysfunction and/or incompetence in the FO.   I got the impression that essentially everyone on the Jests bent over backwards to accommodate Rodgers.  Maybe this wasn't their choice but a dictate from owner Woody Johnson.  

 

IMO, the chances of the Jests making the playoffs is south of 50% because they are depending upon a HC who hasn't demonstrated much growth after several years in the job and so many older players with injury histories to make it through the entire season unscathed.

Edited March 30 by SoTier

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 hours ago, Malazan said:

 

So your argument is that the management teams of the Eagles and Bills have made yet another error after disappointing seasons cut short in the playoffs while the current management team of the Jets who hasn't made the playoffs for 5 years is making all the right moves and have assembled a "dream team" with yet another of their annual off-season championships?

 

Robert Saleh has managed to win as many games in a single season as Adam Gase. He's truly reached the heights of success.

 

Gase destroyed that franchise even more than normal. They’re back to respectable and IMO resemble the Tampa Bay Bucs when Brady arrived. 
 

Now they don’t have an Arians but if Rodgers returns and plays a full season they are a top 5 team in the AFC.

[Dillenger4]

35 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

^^^

 

 

I will address both these posts below:

 

The Jests FO with help from their coaches have again built a great team on paper but we all know that the Jests are the champs of winning the off-season.   They've built a roster filled with lots of expensive, older, often injured players that makes it absolutely necessary for them to make a serious playoff run in 2024 because not only are they're operating in "win now"  mode, but because the owner is likely to fire their collective arses if they fail to make the playoffs again.

 

Salah simply hasn't shown that he's a good enough HC to even get his team to the playoffs much less win in the post-season.   The AFC remains significantly tougher than the NFC, so just getting to the playoffs will be hard.  In the AFCE, the Jets likely have to get past the Bills and/or Fins to grab a playoff berth.  It's likely that multiple AFCN teams make the playoffs again (three made the playoffs last season, including 1 with a backup QB and the other with a pretty poor starting QB).  

 

Moreover, several of the moves the Jests made last season, most notably signing Rodgers' buddies and then failing to sign an adequate back QB after Rodgers' injury, suggests that there's dysfunction and/or incompetence in the FO.   I got the impression that essentially everyone on the Jests bent over backwards to accommodate Rodgers.  Maybe this wasn't their choice but a dictate from owner Woody Johnson.  

 

IMO, the chances of the Jests making the playoffs is south of 50% because they are depending upon a HC who hasn't demonstrated much growth after several years in the job and so many older players with injury histories to make it through the entire season unscathed.

I respect your opinion. But this is the furthest ting from reality. Jets will be a power team in the AFCE. We will dog fight it out with them and miami who is also quietly building a good roster. I do believe the Jets will be our main comp in the AFCE no doubt. If they were smart, they will move up and snag a good QB. Not out of the question.....

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:

I respect your opinion. But this is the furthest ting from reality. Jets will be a power team in the AFCE. We will dog fight it out with them and miami who is also quietly building a good roster. I do believe the Jets will be our main comp in the AFCE no doubt. If they were smart, they will move up and snag a good QB. Not out of the question.....

 

Bad HC.

 

Bad OC.

 

Tired old QB.

 

[Buffalo03]

19 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

2.5 sacks in last 8 games including being invisible in the postseason game.  Why they paying 14.5 million for that?

In his defense, everyone was invisible on the Eagles the last 8 weeks

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

This offseason, they signed Ravens starting guard John Simpson. They traded for Ravens longtime starting RT Morgan Moses. They signed all-pro LT Tyron Smith, who did miss four games last season but was otherwise dominating. They have 2023 2nd round pick Joe Tippman at center, and the highly talented Alijah Vera-Tucker, who is now healthy, will be the other guard.

 

Their problem is no longer offensive line; it’s second receiver. However, this is a great receiver draft and they have the 10th pick.

 

Thank you very much for putting this all together.  OK, so in theory....they upgraded bigly.  In practice - we'll see.

 

I will say I'm not sure acquiring OL talent from the Ravens is the best move to establish pass protection.  Those guys have traditionally been 'road graders' in the run game, but Lamar Jackson doesn't get sacked that much because of his escapability - and even so, he took 41 sacks last season.  

Tyron Smith was a great LT in his time, but it's not just that he missed 4 games last season - he hasn't played a full season since 2015, and he hasn't been a first-team all-pro since 2016.  In the last 4 seasons, he's appeared in 2, 11, 4, and 13 games.   There's a reason  why at age 34, Dallas was willing to move on from him and why his contract with the Jets is highly incentivized for playing time.

 

Alijah Vera-Tucker - "now healthy"?  He tore his Achilles October 9th, he had a "procedure" to repair it and was just out of a walking boot in early Jan.  He says it was a "higher up" tear with "better blood supply" and he had a different repair than Rodgers.  So I would say - it's unknown at this point whether he'll be ready at the start of next season, and if so, what level of play he'll be capable of.  Some guys come back from an Achilles, some guys don't but I think it's especially hard for an OLman.  Either way, he's appeared in 7 and 5 games the last 2 seasons, so the Jets ROI for a 1st round guard is not high at the moment.

 

Basically at 2/5 spots on OL, they're counting on guys who have missed a lot of time the last 2 seasons to level up their availability significantly, and counting on a guard and a RT from the best running team in the NFL, with a highly mobile and elusive QB, to provide pass protection for a relatively immobile elder statesman returning from an Achilles injury.

It's a plan, but it's not a slam-dunk good plan, in my opinion.

 

I think the Jets have had a great defense and it will look much better if whoever they have behind center isn't turning the ball over at a top-of-the-league pace.

I think it remains to be seen if they've provided enough of an OL to keep Rodgers upright through much of the season, and of course, if Rodgers will make it through much of the season effectively.

Maybe their offensive plan is a short passing offense and lean on the run game?

 

Edited March 30 by Beck Water

[schoolhouserock]

Do we know the trade terms yet?

[Mr. WEO]

20 hours ago, Low Positive said:

But then the Jets have to pay him.

 

no one else has wanted to pay this guy.  4th team since drafted.

 

weird.

[SoTier]

6 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:

I respect your opinion. But this is the furthest ting from reality. Jets will be a power team in the AFCE. We will dog fight it out with them and miami who is also quietly building a good roster. I do believe the Jets will be our main comp in the AFCE no doubt. If they were smart, they will move up and snag a good QB. Not out of the question.....

 

Building a winning team takes more than simply assembling a group of talented players.   Neither the Jests' FO nor their coaching staff have shown they can turn a bunch of guys, even talented guys, into an effective team, especially on offense.   They also haven't shown that they can handle adversity well as last season demonstrated.   I will remain skeptical that they can even win more games than they lose until they actual do it.   The Jests have the stink of perpetual loser about them, and that's always a sign that the problems with the franchise are much further up the team food chain than the players on the field.  

Edited March 30 by SoTier

[Augie]

4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Bad HC.

 

Bad OC.

 

Tired old QB.

 

 

Let’s not forget the clown of an owner! It starts at the top! They couldn’t do it without him! 

[Paup 1995MVP]

On 3/29/2024 at 4:06 PM, dave mcbride said:

Wow. Good player. I wanted the Bills to consider him a couple of years ago. I am actually getting a little concerned about the Jets. Yeah, I know, they're the Jets, but they are undoubtedly amassing talent and if Rogers is healthy, he'll likely be an upper echelon QB still because of his incredible arm and on-field intelligence.

Rodgers can't move anymore.  And why would Philly get rid of Reddick if they thought he had much left in the tank?

 

I am not concerned about anyone.  Like I have been saying since the season ended.  If we had been healthy on defense, we were going to the Super Bowl.  

 

And I expect to be better overall  next season.

[Malazan]

17 hours ago, Punching Bag said:

Gase should be signed as senior assistant.

 

Shockingly.. he'd be a better choice than Nathaniel Hackett

[JimBob2232]

The thing that scares me is if they hit on a QB.  A good defense.  A solid offense.  And if they get a young QB playing on a rookie deal - they could be a real contender.  Not concerned with Aaron Rodgers though.  Dude is done.

[BobbyC81]

On 3/29/2024 at 3:15 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Jets are going to be good.

The Jets sold their souls to win Super Bowl 3.  They’ll be paying for it forever.  Two years ago, Breece Hall got injured.  Last year it was Rodgers.  I expect injuries on their defense this year.

[Dillenger4]

20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Bad HC.

 

Bad OC.

 

Tired old QB.

 

I agree. And yet they beat us last season and the one before. With their additions this past off-season they will be better. That's all I'm saying. We too have "new" OC and new DC. We will see.

16 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Building a winning team takes more than simply assembling a group of talented players.   Neither the Jests' FO nor their coaching staff have shown they can turn a bunch of guys, even talented guys, into an effective team, especially on offense.   They also haven't shown that they can handle adversity well as last season demonstrated.   I will remain skeptical that they can even win more games than they lose until they actual do it.   The Jests have the stink of perpetual loser about them, and that's always a sign that the problems with the franchise are much further up the team food chain than the players on the field.  

I agree to a point. Highlighted above: If we lost Josh last season on opening day our season would have been even messier than it was. Not many teams in teh NFL can overcome that. Anyway, we will see. Exciting games coming this season that's for sure!