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While appearing on "The Danza Project," former Bills safety Jordan Poyer was asked about the drive in which the Chiefs tied the game.

"From getting the ball back without much time, without squibbing the ball, and then [we] give up a freaking screen that goes 30 yards down the field to Tyreek [Hill]," Poyer said. "We [were] just playing soft zone. And you look back and you look at the "NFL Films" and you just see really how much more like connected [the Chiefs were] and they were just way better than us in that time."

 

 

Poyer was asked about the soft zones, and it was pointed out that Leslie Frazier seemed to call a lot of those styles of defenses, but Poyer didn't point any fingers. 

"You can point fingers here and there and elsewhere," Poyer said. "It was just an entire operation. There's not really one finger that you can point at all because it was the entire end of our game operation that wasn't good enough."

 

Sounds like a McDermott issue

 

https://atozsports.com/buffalo/former-buffalo-bills-safety-jordan-poyer-13-seconds/

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I'm just gonna keep posting this anytime someone brings up that game....

 

Several factors contributed to the loss

1) 13 seconds

2) they had all three time outs left

3) they had Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill

4) some Bills players and coaches were already celebrating on the sidelines like the game was over

5) they only needed a FG to tie and go to OT. 

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4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

 

Sounds like a McDermott issue

 

 

Nice subjective reading.  He said "we all made mistakes."  He included himself.  Not just McDermott.

 

There is no question the team wasn't prepared for the moment, and that of course is on McDermott.   However, he said "we all made mistakes, and the clear implication is that a lot of different people could have done things differently.  

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8 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

 

While appearing on "The Danza Project," former Bills safety Jordan Poyer was asked about the drive in which the Chiefs tied the game.

"From getting the ball back without much time, without squibbing the ball, and then [we] give up a freaking screen that goes 30 yards down the field to Tyreek [Hill]," Poyer said. "We [were] just playing soft zone. And you look back and you look at the "NFL Films" and you just see really how much more like connected [the Chiefs were] and they were just way better than us in that time."

 

 

Poyer was asked about the soft zones, and it was pointed out that Leslie Frazier seemed to call a lot of those styles of defenses, but Poyer didn't point any fingers. 

"You can point fingers here and there and elsewhere," Poyer said. "It was just an entire operation. There's not really one finger that you can point at all because it was the entire end of our game operation that wasn't good enough."

 

Sounds like a McDermott issue

 

https://atozsports.com/buffalo/former-buffalo-bills-safety-jordan-poyer-13-seconds/

 

Blaming that loss on McD is the same as blaming the super bowl loss to the Giants on the kicker Norwood . 

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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

Nice subjective reading.  He said "we all made mistakes."  He included himself.  Not just McDermott.

 

There is no question the team wasn't prepared for the moment, and that of course is on McDermott.   However, he said "we all made mistakes, and the clear implication is that a lot of different people could have done things differently.  

Everything falls at the feet of coaching. If “we all made mistakes” than coaching didn’t prepare them like they should have. 

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2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Nice subjective reading.  He said "we all made mistakes."  He included himself.  Not just McDermott.

 

There is no question the team wasn't prepared for the moment, and that of course is on McDermott.   However, he said "we all made mistakes, and the clear implication is that a lot of different people could have done things differently.  

It's exactly this, he doesn't say who called the defense he ways it's on all of them, and he's right. Did Frasier call the defense, maybe but McDermott is the defensive minded HC who should see that and say Hell NO! So it doesn't matter if it was Fraisier or McDermott who called that series we still should have done better and that's on the defensive system as a whole.

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11 minutes ago, Just Jack said:


I'm just gonna keep posting this anytime someone brings up that game....

 

Several factors contributed to the loss

1) 13 seconds

2) they had all three time outs left

3) they had Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill

4) some Bills players and coaches were already celebrating on the sidelines like the game was over

5) they only needed a FG to tie and go to OT. 

I'll keep posting this:

 

1) A colossal failure on the part of the Coaches. 

2) See #1 

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He didn’t say anything new. He could’ve easily thrown coaching under the bus and didn’t. 

1 minute ago, Green Lightning said:

I'll keep posting this:

 

1) A colossal failure on the part of the Coaches. 

2) See #1 

I think the fact Tyreek Hill went 60 yards the previous play terrified the coaches. I wish they just played it tight with safety help but that’s the exact defense they played the play before 13 seconds that Hill torched every single player on defense.


The big issue was likely the deep kick. They would only have time for 2 plays not 3. But the Chiefs would’ve won on a Hail Mary touchdown pass anyways.

 

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In a previous playoff game against KC & Mahomes, the then mighty Patriots gave up a scoring drive in 16 seconds.

 

It's football. It happens. It's not a desirable outcome, but even the best make mistakes & stuff happens.

 

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21 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It's exactly this, he doesn't say who called the defense he ways it's on all of them, and he's right. Did Frasier call the defense, maybe but McDermott is the defensive minded HC who should see that and say Hell NO! So it doesn't matter if it was Fraisier or McDermott who called that series we still should have done better and that's on the defensive system as a whole.


add on the same commentary on the kickoff debacle and…. 
 

the whole operation was bad is coded “leadership failed”

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It has been beat to death about the squib kick. There is a reason the ST coach was fired and Leslie didn’t come back. 

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35 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Nice subjective reading.  He said "we all made mistakes."  He included himself.  Not just McDermott.

 

There is no question the team wasn't prepared for the moment, and that of course is on McDermott.   However, he said "we all made mistakes, and the clear implication is that a lot of different people could have done things differently.  

 

36 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Nice subjective reading.  He said "we all made mistakes."  He included himself.  Not just McDermott.

 

There is no question the team wasn't prepared for the moment, and that of course is on McDermott.   However, he said "we all made mistakes, and the clear implication is that a lot of different people could have done things differently.  

Poyer: " and you just see really how much more like connected [the Chiefs were] and they were just way better than us in that time."

 

Why were the Chiefs so much better than us in that time ?

 

The buck stops at McDermott.

 

He's the HEAD coach !

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4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

 

Poyer: " and you just see really how much more like connected [the Chiefs were] and they were just way better than us in that time."

 

Why were the Chiefs so much better than us in that time ?

 

The buck stops at McDermott.

 

He's the HEAD coach !

Kelce and Mahomes literally drew up a play in the dirt based on the look they got. 

Think about the final 3 offensive plays the Chiefs ran in the 4th. That was all the players.

 

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15 minutes ago, Beast said:

It has been beat to death about the squib kick. There is a reason the ST coach was fired and Leslie didn’t come back. 

Those were the guys who fell on the sword for what happened.

 

But McDermott never took any responsibility.

 

In fact, he avoided talking about it at all.

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13 seconds was mainly a McDermott issue. From the squib decision to the defences called to the 2nd timeout. But we also know Levi screwed the second play up and played the wrong leverage. And Jordan knows that because he was madly gesturing at him before the play. He could see it was about to go wrong. 

 

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On first down I still don't understand why the Defense didn't hold Hill and Kelce right off the line. Sure we'd get the 5 yard Defensive holding call but it would've been a play that killed 5 seconds. That leaves them 1 play to get into FG range.

 

Thumbs up to Poyer for not really throwing anyone under the bus.

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Of course it was a coaching issue. We all know that. The defense they lined up in was 100000% a play you call in the very specific situation where the offense has very little time and ZERO TIMEOUTS. They lined up way back and we're defending the sidelines. 

 

Whoever was calling the plays had a panic attack and forgot KC had timeouts. It's the only explanation.

 

That's why he mentions that even a college team could have went down the field. Because KC didn't have to do anything. We left the middle wide open as if time would run out. 

 

It was an all time blunder. One of the biggest botched endings in NFL history. 

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Great of Poyer to not point fingers even though he’s no longer on the team. You can tell it still bothers him.

 

The team really need to let this go and move forward. It seems like they’re still stuck on this game and what could’ve been. I know most fans definitely are. Time to move on. 

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3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Those were the guys who fell on the sword for what happened.

 

But McDermott never took any responsibility.

 

In fact, he avoided talking about it at all.

McDermott literally said it was on him.

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