Which round are the Bills more likely to trade up....1st or 2nd??

[gonzo1105]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I can. We do these terrible draft day maneuvers to move up or down a handful of spots. Whenever we move up it seems we have to overpay and whenever we move down it seems we get the minimum.

We gave up a 4th rounder to move up two spots to select Elam, Moved back twice in the second round for a total of 6 spots getting two 6th round picks.
We gave up a 4th rounder to move up two spots to get Kincaid. Even though it looks like he'll be a good player, i still hate that value.

If two 6th round picks can get you 6 spots int he second round, just try to do that or move up int he 3rd every year. If we can get 3 starting caliber players out of a draft and once in a while get one stud every two years, that's a good standard bar. If we want to build a SB roster while paying a $55M cap hit for a QB, we're gonna need 3 studs every two years.

read a trade value chart. 6 spots in the 2nd is an 80 point difference. That would require both 5ths and our top 6th to do. 
 

All 3 6th rounders don’t equal 80 points. The Bills also draft  a lot of starting and depth guys on day 3. With your mindset we wouldn’t have Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, Christian Benford, Tyler Bass, Dane Jackson the last 4 years, Gabe Davis the last 4 years

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

read a trade value chart. 6 spots in the 2nd is an 80 point difference. That would require both 5ths and our top 6th to do. 
 

All 3 6th rounders don’t equal 80 points. The Bills also draft  a lot of starting and depth guys on day 3. With your mindset we wouldn’t have Taron Johnson (4th), Matt Milano (5th - Whaley), Christian Benford, Tyler Bass (Kicker), Dane Jackson the last 4 years, Gabe Davis (4th) the last 4 years

I mean, I guess if you make things up, anything can be true.

[First Round Bust]

hoping for the best outcome which would be a run of qbs like Penix Jr (wash) and JJM (Mich) and OL and edge studs push the second tier of WRs further down the first round...but that creates a pent-up demand for WRs and likely more trade-down competition plus I dont want KC to get their hands on a WR in the first-round as well and they are not a trade partner (see Mahomes, Patrick).

 

co-related...

 

This AM WGR mentioned that Beane is the only GM not to take a WR within the first 100 picks of his draft and that he has taken the most RBs within the first 100 as well (Singletray, Moss, Cook)...the WR avoidance undestandable because of Gabe Davis most likely as Beano wasnt about to use a high pick to be a 3rd stringer....this is the year and damn we needed that 3rd round comp pick...

 

[Estro]

What they should do is trade down out of the 1st and pick up a 2nd and 3rd for moving down 12 or so spots.

 

Then use those multiple 4ths and 5th to moves around in rounds 2 and 3 and come away with 5 picks between selection 40-120.

[Fan in San Diego]

I can see a trade up into the third round.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I would trade Diggs and two 1st rd picks if we could get into the top 10 and have a chance at Harrison Jr or Nabers. 

[First Round Bust]

4 hours ago, Estro said:

What they should do is trade down out of the 1st and pick up a 2nd and 3rd for moving down 12 or so spots.

 

Then use those multiple 4ths and 5th to moves around in rounds 2 and 3 and come away with 5 picks between selection 40-120.

trading back from pick 28 to say 40 (second round) the gain is 160 points which is third round pick 86 (2/3 of down the third round)  our two 4ths put together equal a move up to near the 4 th round but still in the fourth round and adding the fifth to that does not move that much either...its that missing third rounder that is now a fourth that hurts as that differnece is  72 points...those points alone would enable a move from pick 28 to 24; or those 72 points alone is valued at pick 111a  mid-4th rounder

 

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[T master]

Seeing as the Bills got totally screwed on the conpensitory pick for Edmunds it wouldn't surprise me if Beane bundled some lat round picks to get into the 3rd round .

[Turbo44]

On 3/29/2024 at 4:45 PM, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would trade Diggs and two 1st rd picks if we could get into the top 10 and have a chance at Harrison Jr or Nabers. 

The salary cap says it would not make this trade

[Bills4ever123]

Why not stick at 28 and use 60 and a couple other pics to move up to 29/30 or 31 for a second receiver? Now you have no excuses on offense and you can focus defence the rest of the draft.