The unsexy, unexciting first round pick

[Matt_In_NH]

I would not expect an IOL with the first round pick, the value of the player could be there but the value of the position makes it tough.  Last year people mocked Torrence to the Bills in the first and they got him in the second.  I fully expect DE, DT or WR with the first pick.  If it were OL, I would think an OT that fell would be more likely than anything inside.

[Yantha]

Torrence was a steal!

 

Hope we see something similar this year.

[T master]

Of course the sexy pick is WR at 28 in the first but Beane is building the team to be sustainable for the future & if this guy is looked at as having a high ceiling with the possibility of being elite then why not ? You have a elite QB & this guy could be Josh's Kent Hull .

 

I trust Beane has watched his tape & knows all he needs to know about him then the thought of him being able to have Kromer be his coach the possibilities are endless for his career . 

 

It will be interesting to say the least but which ever way they go i'm sure the player will be a good one for years to come . 

 

GO BILLS !! 

[Thurman#1]

I doubt they go with him. But I would understand.

 

If the WRs and DEs, and maybe DTs that they like as first-rounders are gone, I'd expect them to try to trade down. If they couldn't do that effectively, I'd expect him to be near the top of their options at that point.

[Logic]

I have a simple rule:

No matter how tempted I may ever be because I have other personal preferences...

I never, ever get angry at the Bills for drafting linemen on either sides of the ball. They may be the least exciting draft picks, but you win and lose football games in the trenches.

Nine times out of ten, if you want to know who is going to win a football game, watch the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Whoever is winning those battles usually wins the game. The best way to win those battles is to have talented players on both lines.

So a blue chip center at 28? Great. Fine. No problem here. Not my preference at all (I think you can get good interior linemen later in the draft, and I also like Alec Anderson), but...if that's what they wanna do, I won't complain.

[Kaenon]

3 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I’d love that pick if he was there but I think the Steelers will get him at 20

They want another Pouncey 

[Prospector]

3 hours ago, Yantha said:

Hi all.  Haven't posted on here for a long long time.  Let's have a conversation and see if we can do it without the use of the term WIDE RECEIVER that I think we all (myself included) are excited about adding a few from this draft.

 

I'm here to talk about the possibility of investing in a new, long term, potentially dominant anchor for our O-line.

 

OC Jackson POWERS-Johnson.  Mitch Morse was a stable and good player.  Arguably not elite.  I watched this analysis on JPJ that I thought was spot on.  Last time I brought up drafting Center on this board I got destroyed.  I still expect a lot of barf emojis and nay-sayers.... but again, I'm ONLY suggesting Center if there is a run on WRs and JPJ is the value pick.

 

I feel that there might be a RUN on wide receivers in round one and without trading up, we might miss on the top WRs that we have been mocking at pick 28.  Watching Beane talk about draft strategy, I'm thinking that they won't take a WR at 28 if they have the board looking like top round 2 players.  Beane himself said he would pass on WR if that were the case, selecting the higher ranked player.

 

At 28, I think that's a pretty good spot for the top center in the draft.

 

Could they go DT?  Safety?  Edge? other?  Well of course......

 

But let's not sleep on center.  We COULD move one of our Guards over..... or just pick our Center that would likely be our guy for a decade.

 

Here's the link:

 

I would not hate this. I actually think he may get drafted before our pick... this guy is really dang good!

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I’d love that pick if he was there but I think the Steelers will get him at 20

I’m worried Pgh goes WR!

[Alphadawg7]

Im not against it, I am all for taking talent at 28.  I am skeptical he reaches 28 though and it will depend on who is on the board at 28, especially at WR and DL.  

[RyanC883]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

Im not against it, I am all for taking talent at 28.  I am skeptical he reaches 28 though and it will depend on who is on the board at 28, especially at WR and DL.  

Agreed.  I’d take Powers over WR 6 and over any DL likely to be there except the DT from Illinois. Then trade up in 2 for WR Polk or Legette.  

[Einstein's Dog]

The problem w drafting center at 28 is the odds of the Bills getting one of the top 8 or so WRs drops dramatically.  Waiting until #60 for a WR is way too risky for my blood. 

 

I'm not against trading down and then if available getting a top C and one of the top 8 WRs, but I don't think that would be a FO thought.  i don't think they'll go with offense the first two picks again.

[Dillenger4]

Our pick is DE: Latu. Moving up to get him. I'm all in.

[LABILLBACKER]

If most of the first round rated wrs are gone and someone like JPJ or Jared Verse are there then yes grab them.  JPJ would make a nice long term anchor for our OL.

[Sweats]

3 hours ago, SoTier said:

I'm in!     I've already advocated drafting a center at #28 in a couple of other threads.  Even if there's not a run on WRs, the fact is a great center will help Allen more than a good WR, and you're more likely to get a great IOLer than a great WR at #28

 

 

 

You know, for years i've always just wanted the big "splash" player in the drafts, but i saw an interview with The Hoodie a couple of years back and it completely changed my mindset.

 

I can't remember the interview word for word, but it was basically about how a good OLineman can anchor the trenches for years, help protect the QB (arguably a teams biggest asset)....they are for the most part fairly cheap at re-negotiating contracts, no divas involved and can play the position for a long time.

The interview actually made a lot of sense to me and completely changed my whole mindset.

[Rigotz]

I was considering making another thread, but this seems as good a place as any.

 

It's "lying season" for GM's. We've seen Beane lie before about team needs during this time of year.

 

Let's say, hypothetically, McGovern isn't actually planning to move to Center. What's the biggest hole on this team?

 

McDermott and Beane have always said they would "prioritize the trenches."

 

If the world knew that we had a glaring hole at Center, it would put us at a significant disadvantage going into the draft, as there are only 3 top talents at Center (Jackson Power-Johnson, Zach Frazier, Sedrick Van Pran) and arguably only one elite talent (JPJ).

 

Solution? Tell everyone McGovern is moving to Center.

 

What does Beane always say? Look at how you lost the last game of the season and that will tell you your needs.

 

How did the Cheifs destroy us? The most elite interior O-line in the league and a nasty defense. It wasn't with WR talent.

 

All of this adds up to drafting a Center with the 1st round pick. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 hours ago, mrags said:

First I don’t think he’ll be there. 

second, if MHJ, Nabors, Odunze, Thomas, Franklin, Mitchell are all gone, and Sweat is gone, sure. 
 

In also don’t think the Bills see it as a need as they seem committed to McGovern there. 
 

im also not positive the Bills take WR in rd 1 even if one of those guys is there. I think they’ll go defense somewhere but it could be almost any position imo. Corner, safety, D-end, DT. About the only position on defense I think is safe they won’t draft early is LB. 

I hope he doesn’t wear that stupid looking helmet thing we do pick him 

Brother you know they are going defense in round 1, they can't help it.

[Billl]

3 hours ago, Yantha said:

It's a fair point but you can't sign a probowl center.  They all have jobs with other teams at this point.

Kansas City has an all Pro center playing on the last year of his rookie contract. They’ve also got Trey Smith and Nick Bolton who are up for new contracts after this season as well. I don’t think they can sign all three of them. 
 

Buffalo has a need at Center and is without a third round pick. Creed and a third round in exchange for Buffalo’s first would be an interesting option, IMO.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Bills need WR and Edge in the worst way for 2024 but even more so for 2025. 

I don't hate taking a C in the first round but they can do that next year. This year getting younger better pass rush and planning for a life without Diggs is the priority. 

 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Rigotz said:

What does Beane always say? Look at how you lost the last game of the season and that will tell you your needs.

 

Correct. So based off that game our #1 need is an outside WR that can win vertically. A close 2nd is a pass rusher that can actually take down Mahomes. We didn't lose to the Chiefs because of our IOL.

[Mat68]

I wouldnt like it but I would respect it.