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[Mike in Horseheads]

On 3/29/2024 at 8:48 AM, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Gross

 

Always had a soft spot for the O's. Growing up Rochester was their farm team, and my friend was big into the O's because of that. 

Thats how I became a O's fan as a little chipper, Orioles AA team was in Elmira

[major]

I wish the Oakland A’s would pull a major league and win it all while the owner is trying to get them out of town 

[US Egg]

40 minutes ago, major said:

I wish the Oakland A’s would pull a major league and win it all while the owner is trying to get them out of town 

That would be ironic considering the A’s owner in the early ‘70’s, Charlie Finley, did a bit of a fire sale of players after they had won three straight World Series.

 

He was easily the most reviled franchise owner in Oakland, until Al Davis, and maybe now this guy.

[Fleezoid]

 

[BADOLBILZ]

On 3/29/2024 at 1:22 AM, US Egg said:

Orioles drafted quite well. Going from 100 losses to 100 wins in 3 seasons is…..unprecedented?

 

 

The O's are the latest to try to copy the Astros tanking model.   It's not hard to get into contention that way but it's a lot harder to sustain momentum than it would seem it should be.   Cubs did it, won a WS by the skin of their teeth and then quickly faded back into mediocrity and their stars fell to earth and changed teams.   The Blue Jays were supposed to be owning the AL by now after their 2017-2019 tanking yielded a team full of sons of former HOF/star players.  

[4merper4mer]

15 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The O's are the latest to try to copy the Astros tanking model.   It's not hard to get into contention that way but it's a lot harder to sustain momentum than it would seem it should be.   Cubs did it, won a WS by the skin of their teeth and then quickly faded back into mediocrity and their stars fell to earth and changed teams.   The Blue Jays were supposed to be owning the AL by now after their 2017-2019 tanking yielded a team full of sons of former HOF/star players.  

Tell me you’re clueless about the Orioles without saying you’re clueless about the Orioles.

 

1. It is highly questionable whether they were tanking by design or whether it was simply a function of ownership’s unwillingness to spend.

2. Characterizing how the Orioles have gotten into contention as “not hard” should mean the Marlins, A’s, Tigers, Royals, Guardians, Nats, Pirates, Reds, Giants, D-Backs, Mariners, are all similarly positioned.  Of those maaaaaaybe you could make a thin case for the DBacks and Reds.  
3. Henderson, Holliday, Kjerstad, Cowser, Westburg, Rodriguez, Mayo, Basallo, Rutschman, Norby, Bradfield.  Easy?  Oh, and that’s after trading Ortiz and Hall for Burnes.  They also developed Kremer, Bradish, Bautista, and others far beyond their original profiles.
 

You’re going to lean on the fact that they haven’t gone to 7 straight ALCS like the Astros and that’s true, so you’re right…..what they’ve done is “easy”.  Now list the other teams that have gone to 7 straight AL or NL CS’s since that is your standard.  Yanks?  Dodgers?  

Edited April 11 by 4merper4mer