Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'd say the Offensive Line he was running behind and the QB and Passing Game, or lack there of, he had to open up the Run game didn't help things. You can point to averages. But considering a.) what's out there and b.) what he was able to put up statistically elsewhere last year as an RB2 - I think he's maybe the top option available. He had one game last season where he was the starter and he basically carried them to victory - https://heavy.com/sports/new-england-patriots/ezekiel-elliott-nfl-cowboys/ My only concern is that he had like... 1 play greater than 20 yards all season. Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 27 Posted March 27 15 minutes ago, boyst said: CEH is my vote. I agree, am a little surprised he hasn't gotten signed yet unless he looking for a starting job or too much money. 1 Quote
boyst Posted March 27 Posted March 27 10 minutes ago, Logic said: I think that signing Dobbins on a cheap, heavily incentive-laden contract would be awesome. He's NOT going to command a big salary coming off those two injuries and with almost no notable NFL production to his name. If he'd sign a prove-it deal and come to camp, I'd be all for it. The upside is ENORMOUS, and assuming it was an affordable deal with low to no guarantees, there is really not much downside. Yes, it's possible he's never the same guy he was at Ohio State. It's also possible that he bounces back from injury and you get a real steal for relative peanuts. Like @boyst, I also think CEH would be a great (and less risky, health wise) choice. I can't imagine either guy costing much. Signing former 1st and 2nd round picks who need a fresh start and a change of scenery seems like exactly the type of thing the Bills should be doing at RB2. I always think of Duke Johnson who never put together the career people hoped for but was able to keep playing successfully for his teams over his career. Give me a guy who can take the ball and give me 400 yards, be a good teammate, and most importantly be available. 1 Quote
stuvian Posted March 27 Posted March 27 He has never distinguished himself even when healthy. I've had him in fantasy much to my regret 1 Quote
Virgil Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Living here in Baltimore and listening to the Ravens radio at times, I can see him holding out for more than the vet min. Not that he deserves it, but he is a bit of a diva 1 Quote
Logic Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, stuvian said: He has never distinguished himself even when healthy. I've had him in fantasy much to my regret While it is indisputable that he has RARELY been healthy in his career, when he WAS healthy as a rookie, I would argue that he did indeed distinguish himself. He averaged 5.8 yards per carry that year. Very good. Now, obviously, we're four years and two major injuries beyond that point. But Dobbins is 25 years old and, in my opinion, worth at least kicking the tires on to see if he has any of that old explosivity left. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I have yet to see a guy mentioned in this thread that is materially better that Ty Johnson. I say we ride it out with cook and Ty, and a 5th-ish round draft pick. can always get one of these aging vets mid season. Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I am holding out hope for Zeke. I want him picked late and at a good value. A veteran who can get the tough short yards and knows how to pass block would be a great fit here. Contrary to the stats provided above, when I saw him in action last year I saw a good RB. Also, Zeke has been kind of humbled and with that can be a chip on his shoulders. I would find it easy to root for him now (I didn't before). 1 Quote
boyst Posted March 27 Posted March 27 29 minutes ago, stuvian said: He has never distinguished himself even when healthy. I've had him in fantasy much to my regret i disagree. he was outshined by the best running back in the league - lamar jackson. when he was engaged in the game and game planned around with Gregg Roman and others he was tremendously efficient and served as a strategy problem for defenses. Quote
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 You want the guy from the Farmers commercials to be our running back? Dude, no thanks. 2 Quote
Clyde Smith Posted March 27 Posted March 27 A lot of capable Rbs in the draft. I rather we go that route. Quote
damj Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Tipster19 said: It was a little surprising for me to see Damien Harris just up and retire like he did but Dobbins would be a great replacement for him. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/j-k-dobbins-cleared-for-football-activities-will-begin-free-agent-visits-soon Hard no. He is less durable than wet toilet paper Quote
MJS Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, boyst said: CEH is my vote. Yeah, why would he not be considered a better option than washed up Zeke Eliott or perennially injured Dobbins? That's an easy choice for me. Quote
BigAl2526 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 The Bills like Cook as their starter, and I think they were impressed by what they got out of Ty Johnson. If the Bills could sign him at vet minimum, I'd be on board. He's not going to get enough playing time to justify any more than that. Combine those factors with the risk of ineffectiveness following two catastrophic injuries, I just don't think the Bills will offer him enough money to make him happy. Quote
boyst Posted March 27 Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, MJS said: Yeah, why would he not be considered a better option than washed up Zeke Eliott or perennially injured Dobbins? That's an easy choice for me. elliot washed up is a better floor than many younger guys ceiling Quote
sven233 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Sure.....providing that he takes a completely non guaranteed fully incentive-laden deal. Quote
Kwai San Posted March 27 Posted March 27 As far as Zeke goes....the first time he does the spoon shoveling thing is when the remote goes thru the screen. Ima hard no on that classless POS. 2 Quote
Logic Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, damj said: Hard no. He is less durable than wet toilet paper I realize he had two major injuries, but...I wouldn't classify a torn ACL or a popped achilles as "durability issues". Both are freak accidents that can happen to anyone, even the most "durable" players. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Logic said: I realize he had two major injuries, but...I wouldn't classify a torn ACL or a popped achilles as "durability issues". Both are freak accidents that can happen to anyone, even the most "durable" players. But they do carry a decent probability of reoccurrence, not to mention the possibility of sapping skill (long layoffs) and explosiveness. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 It'd depend on the price. As a lot of all of this does. My guess is he gets somebody to pay him $3 - 5M, maybe. The guy has had tremendous YPC numbers in all the years except last year when he only had 8 carries. His injuries will push it down of course, but again, I think someone will pay him. And for that money, I'd say no thanks. If we could get him for significantly less, yeah, maybe. Quote
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