Aussie Joe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) Would love to see the reaction here if Beane moved up trading 2025 first … and they ended up taking D Line … Edited March 26 by Aussie Joe 5 1 Quote
Virgil Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Would love to see the reaction here if Beane moved up trading 2025 first … and they ended up taking D Line … Who hurt you? 2 1 Quote
papazoid Posted March 26 Posted March 26 no....not a first rounder i would'nt even use a second rounder i would use a 4th.....which might move you up 2 or 3 spots Quote
Boatdrinks Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Watkins comparisons are a bit out of place. Moving up for a WR when your QB is EJ Manuel or the like is never advisable. Not saying I’d do it, but it’s hardly apples to apples. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Sammy seemed like a can’t miss prospect at the position and look at how that turned out. 28 to 17 or 18 for our 2025 1st rounder just feels like too much to give up regardless of what the trade chart says. Quote
qwksilver Posted March 26 Posted March 26 We have so many picks this year and It's such a deep class. I'd do next years 2nd, this year 4, 5 ,6 to go up to 16-19 to get Brian Thomas JR. The top 3 would cost too much for me and hopefully Beane. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 26 Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Watkins comparisons are a bit out of place. Moving up for a WR when your QB is EJ Manuel or the like is never advisable. Not saying I’d do it, but it’s hardly apples to apples. Not entirely. Watkins was not ruined by a bad QB. He would have bust whether he played with EJ, Tyrod or Mahomes. In fact, I think his best year was with Tyrod despite having played with Mahomes. If Watkins was as advertised, he would have still been on the team Allen’s first few seasons in the league and having a positive impact on his development as young QB, regardless of EJ busting. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 4 hours ago, The Jokeman said: No, Sammy Watkins redux 2.0. I don't even disagree with you but this is the worst counter argument. Different players, different team makeup, diff : decade, gm, hc, qb league offense style, roster make up etc etc etc Lazy answer I see parroted non stop on here 1 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 We probably will need to draft WR again next year. So leaning towards no. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 4 hours ago, MPL said: I have this feeling that somebody drafted in round 2 or 3 will end up being the best WR in the draft class. Not saying we don't need to take one at 28, but just this premonition that if we move up, we'll end up wishing we had waited and picked a different guy. This wr class is thick enough with talent I'd be highly surprised if this isn't the case on any WR picked after #4. Puca Nacua and Tank just came out of this draft. I agree with the premise of the point but it's all about who has best scouting staff and trusts them to follow their board (or move up when it's called for). We see this every year with top organizations... and knowing how to develop their prospects. 1 Quote
BobbyC81 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: And I've mentioned this a couple times before, but imagine if Minnesota had spent a boat load of picks to trade up to Draft a higher ranked prospect instead of staying put and taking the 5th WR off the board in Justin Jefferson. It's no guarantee the higher rated prospect at any position in any class is going to end up the better NFL player. It's practically irresponsible to pay a King's Ransom for a "better" WR in a class that has (in my book) EIGHT WR's with a 1st Round grade. How about trading said pick, along with others, to acquire a WR that has turned into a malcontent B****, when you could’ve stayed put and taken Jefferson? 1 Quote
BobbyC81 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I voted Yes but went by the post title before looking at the details. I would trade the 2025 pick to get Harrison or Odunze, not for the other receivers. There’s enough of them that are similar that, Yes, it could be like trading up for Sammy when you could’ve just taken Mike Evans. #hindsight Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Absolutely not. The draft is deep enough with talent at the position that it would make no sense to make that move IMO. This is a draft where I would let the draft come to me. I read this every year... And then it gets to our pick and the position you want is not available do to a (in this case WR run) before our pick and we are forced to do something else. Last year we wanted a WR.. and ended up with TE. It worked out but point being... A Bigger WR run could easily happen this year before our pick... and people will be saying post draft ... we should have moved up. may I remind you, many people wanted Jordan Addison last year... He would have had a 1100 yard year with the Bills easy... You see... its easy to bring up history on a bad move up/down but people have selective memories of who they wanted that would of been an amazing player to have on this team... Do i want to move up? no.. Would I be upset if we did? heck no... 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted March 26 Posted March 26 59 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Not entirely. Watkins was not ruined by a bad QB. He would have bust whether he played with EJ, Tyrod or Mahomes. In fact, I think his best year was with Tyrod despite having played with Mahomes. If Watkins was as advertised, he would have still been on the team Allen’s first few seasons in the league and having a positive impact on his development as young QB, regardless of EJ busting. Didn’t say he was ruined by EJ, but the team wasn’t a contender. That made the move more questionable. Watkins didn’t live up to his billing to be certain, but that is always a risk- even in the first round. My point is that one could make an argument for a move up to snag a top WR for Allen. Still not saying I’d do it, but you could make a case for it. It was more foolish than not for an EJ led Bills team. Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I voted no as I have Sammy PTSD, are we still giving Cleveland draft picks for him? Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I love Odunze but moving up to the top 10 would cost next years 1st. I'd rather pray Thomas is still there around 20 and use a 4th this year and a 3rd next year. I just think Brian Thomas would be special with Josh. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Sammy seemed like a can’t miss prospect at the position and look at how that turned out. 28 to 17 or 18 for our 2025 1st rounder just feels like too much to give up regardless of what the trade chart says. It's an overpay even on the Trade Chart. 17 is worth 296. 28 and 60 equal out to 297. Quote
Behindenemylines Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I said no simply because I don’t believe any of the top 3/4 players will be available then. Most of the remaining talent is a toss up IMO. Quote
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