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3 hours ago, vincec said:

Unless Allen starts to play on defense too, I don’t think he can do much more. Allen has been good enough to win a Super Bowl for a few years now. The problem is on the other side of the ball.


I get that the defense hasn’t exactly been stellar in the brightest moments. It could be that facing guys like Mahomes and Burrow defenses aren’t going to hold up. Those guys will find a way to score if you give them the ball last. 
 

So when you get the ball back with a drive to win against Mahomes in the playoffs you gotta deliver if you’re that guy (and he is). You can’t fumble trying to fight for meaningless extra yards. You’d have to manage the clock and try to score last at the same time. It isn’t easy to do but that’s why there are elite QBs. It’s not just arm talent. Most of the time it’s the mental aspect of the game that separates winners and losers for the top of the top QBs.

 

Hopefully this last playoffs failure could provide Allen with another learning opportunity and building block for the future. Next time he’s in that situation it might be a different outcome.

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6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

My bias against McDermott is well documented. 

Wondering how others view his post-season PC and recent interview calling critics narrow minded. He also stated its hard to win in the NFL. I recall a prior HC pilloried on this site for saying the exact same words. 

My take on the PC was that he was very defensive. Without even being asked. He launched into a defense of his tenure as coach even dating back to prior seasons. 

And now he calls critics narrow minded for wondering if the Bills will win a SB with him as HC. You have to belive at this point the thought has crossed Beane and Pegula's mind. He's trying to defend at best status quo to perhaps taking a step or two back from 13 seconds. 

Then the most ridiculous statement of all. 

"We're looking for Josh to really be that face of the franchise, like he's been, and continue to evolve." 

I mean WTF. What team has he been coaching? Does he think Hyde and Poyer were the face of the franchise?? Is he trying to lay blame on Allen? Without Allen McDermott might be coaching DBs in Kansas City.  Was Allen on the field when the defense crumbled multiple times against Denver,Philadelphia, and others. KC only stopped themselves in the playoff game. If not for a goal line fumble the Bills are not even close in that game. 

 

It may not seem that I'm open minded but I really try. I've gave McDermott praise many times last year.

 

So what does the board think? 

For those that crucified Jauron how do you take the It’s hard to win in the NFL line?

For those that defend McDermott, what do you all think?

 

You know how people sometimes see what they want to see?

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Why is McDermott under pressure when it is Beane who broke the bank for Miller and Floyd who have failed to deliver the promised sacks?

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McD probably really regrets trading the best QB in football to a conference rival and one of the greatest coaches in the NFL, moreso now that none of the yields of that trade are even on the roster.

 

I would feel bad too.

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I was one that wanted McDermott gone this offseason but it's time to move on. He's our coach this year love it or hate it. I'll criticize him plenty in September and beyond, I just don't have it in me to care what he says in response to vapid questions at press conferences in March.

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24 minutes ago, FireChans said:

McD probably really regrets trading the best QB in football to a conference rival and one of the greatest coaches in the NFL, moreso now that none of the yields of that trade are even on the roster.

 

I would feel bad too.


Can we get past this? How could he have known who KC was picking ? It’s not like he’d draft Mahomes if they had kept the pick. He would’ve taken a defensive player at 10 as well. So he did the right thing by trading down for more picks. They landed on Allen the next year so all that is moot. KC has got their franchise guy. Bills got theirs. Everyone is happy. There are plenty of things to bash McD about without ever bringing this up again. lol 

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32 minutes ago, 90sBills said:


Can we get past this? How could he have known who KC was picking ? It’s not like he’d draft Mahomes if they had kept the pick. He would’ve taken a defensive player at 10 as well. So he did the right thing by trading down for more picks. They landed on Allen the next year so all that is moot. KC has got their franchise guy. Bills got theirs. Everyone is happy. There are plenty of things to bash McD about without ever bringing this up again. lol 

I'm not bashing him. I don't think he made a crazy, ridiculous decision.

 

It was just the trade that enabled KC to become a new dynasty that sends us home every year in the playoffs. I would still feel bad about it.  Being the architect of your own destruction and all.

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Ill care more about how people feel about our HC when we dont make the playoffs every year.

 

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18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I'm not bashing him. I don't think he made a crazy, ridiculous decision.

 

It was just the trade that enabled KC to become a new dynasty that sends us home every year in the playoffs. I would still feel bad about it.  Being the architect of your own destruction and all.


I know what you mean. Just gotta find a way. 

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I believe that every man who has ever coached in the NFL has at one time or another said “it’s hard to win in the NFL.”

 

There are well over 20 NFL clubs right now who would kill to have McD as their head coach.

 

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16 minutes ago, eball said:

I believe that every man who has ever coached in the NFL has at one time or another said “it’s hard to win in the NFL.”

 

There are well over 20 NFL clubs right now who would kill to have McD as their head coach.

 

 

Yep. It is absolutely stock NFL coach speak 101. Belichick used to say it all the time. 

 

The joke with Jauron was it was particularly hard for him to win in the NFL. 

9 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

 

To put it another way, any of those 31 other coaches wins 9 games with Allen at QB. Many of them win the division.  Some make the SuperBowl. But our HC can't beat KC at home. 

 

How many of them beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs? Because that is the question. 

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13 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I think you're wrong.  

 

Your evidence that he's feeling the pressure is based on you evaluation of his performance in a press conference.  He's ALWAYS been bad in press conferences.  He's uncomfortable, he doesn't like it, and he isn't good at figuring out how to give useful answers to questions without saying too much.  

 

It's ridiculous, meaning it's fair to subject you to ridicule, for you to compare McDermott to Dick Jauron.  McDermott has built a perennial top-five favorite to win the Super Bowl, and Jauron went 7-9 three years in a row before the team fell apart.  There is NO meaningful comparison.  

 

You're free to not like McDermott, but you're not going to convince anyone who knows football.  The 49ers aren't firing Shanahan and the Bills aren't replacing McDermott.  


As always Shaw, well written.  I like Ethan, but his bias gets in his way.  He has a right to his opinions, I just disagree as is my right.  I think McD is a good coach but like 31 others has flaws.  There is no perfect coach.

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All i know is that the NFL Network has been running continuous "classic" games lately and unfortunately, our Bills have been the brunt of some real turd burners.

 

* 13 seconds.........ugh

* the collapse against the Texans in our divisional round a few years back.......up 16 points at the half and then a total meltdown in the 2nd.

* the collapse against the Vikings........giving up 4th and 18 to JJ and losing the game miserably.

* Hail Murray

 

.......just to name a few.

 

In every one of these games, it was the D that lost the games. The O played just well enough to win, however, the D had a meltdown every time and gave up the ghost. As fans, it's disgusting to watch the collapse because we all know that no lead is safe with this HC.

 

For a Defensive HC that prides himself on being current and "on the ball", he has a lot to prove this season. Is he on the "hot seat"?.....no, but he should be.......he definitely should be.

 

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4 minutes ago, Sweats said:

All i know is that the NFL Network has been running continuous "classic" games lately and unfortunately, our Bills have been the brunt of some real turd burners.

 

* 13 seconds.........ugh

* the collapse against the Texans in our divisional round a few years back.......up 16 points at the half and then a total meltdown in the 2nd.

* the collapse against the Vikings........giving up 4th and 18 to JJ and losing the game miserably.

* Hail Murray

 

.......just to name a few.

 

In every one of these games, it was the D that lost the games. The O played just well enough to win, however, the D had a meltdown every time and gave up the ghost. As fans, it's disgusting to watch the collapse because we all know that no lead is safe with this HC.

 

For a Defensive HC that prides himself on being current and "on the ball", he has a lot to prove this season. Is he on the "hot seat"?.....no, but he should be.......he definitely should be.

 

 

I don't think the offense played well enough to win at Houston. It threw up on itself second half of that game, turned the ball over and opened the door for Houston. It did play well enough vs Minnesota.... but the defense had stopped them and the game was done if Mitch and Josh could execute a snap. 

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think the offense played well enough to win at Houston. It threw up on itself second half of that game, turned the ball over and opened the door for Houston. It did play well enough vs Minnesota.... but the defense had stopped them and the game was done if Mitch and Josh could execute a snap. 

 

 

 

Did the O play perfect against the Texans?.......no, but they still had the team up by 16 points at the half.

Watch the game again and you'll see the monumental collapse of the D in the 2nd half. It was totally and utterly disgusting. All the D had to do was hold on to the lead......just stop something, which they couldn't.......which is what Bills fans expect every time the D takes the field.

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Haven’t had a chance to read the whole thread. Has anyone pointed out that back-to-back defending champ Andy Reid was also just quoted as saying “it’s hard to win in the NFL”? Is it time to just get over Dick Jauron saying a true statement that no one wants to hear during a mediocre stretch of football, or should the Chiefs be looking to move on from Reid?

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3 minutes ago, Cash said:

Haven’t had a chance to read the whole thread. Has anyone pointed out that back-to-back defending champ Andy Reid was also just quoted as saying “it’s hard to win in the NFL”? Is it time to just get over Dick Jauron saying a true statement that no one wants to hear during a mediocre stretch of football, or should the Chiefs be looking to move on from Reid?

 

 

 

 

Well, when a HOF multiple SB winning HC says it, then it sounds believable, acceptable and meaningful.

 

When McClappy says it, he sounds like a whiny little *****, with zero answers and trying to show some self-justification to the media and why he should keep his job.

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26 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Did the O play perfect against the Texans?.......no, but they still had the team up by 16 points at the half.

Watch the game again and you'll see the monumental collapse of the D in the 2nd half. It was totally and utterly disgusting. All the D had to do was hold on to the lead......just stop something, which they couldn't.......which is what Bills fans expect every time the D takes the field.

 

But you don't win playoff games on the road with 16 points, especially not when you turn it over. The entire team was very good first half and bad second half. 

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