The Frankish Reich Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Any more you have to read multiple sources for information, then double check, (often by reading the source documents.) Certainly a good habit. But what are your regular go-to sources? Which twitter accounts? YouTube or other video commentaries/new sources? Where do you start?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 25 Posted March 25 I like Drudge a lot. Leads me to topics, often from world sources which can then be followed up on. No finance reads except I like the Economist and check yahoo finance for numbers. Figured out a while ago that managing money was better done by someone other than me. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 6 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Any more you have to read multiple sources for information, then double check, (often by reading the source documents.) Certainly a good habit. But what are your regular go-to sources? Which twitter accounts? YouTube or other video commentaries/new sources? Where do you start? What you are talking about is fine in theory. But what I often see here is ass backwards. People read a commentary critical of (or even mocking) the MSM or the official (government) account. Then they don't go back and read the official story. They just rely on the commentary on Twitter or whatever. Better to read the official or MSM account first, then keep an open mind and look for reasoned criticism of it. But that's not what I usually see. Instead it's just a snarky dismissal (or angry and embittered one if you are a sex-starved Tarheel) of the MSM or government account without any kind of analysis other than "you are sheeple" or "they always lie."
boyst Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: @B-Man Used to be a Fox Grandpa, now majority MAGA Mind-Melder @BillStime Liberal warrior @Tiberius Liberal warrior, with a healthy dose of Elite Power Consumer @Joe Ferguson forever Elite Power Consumer with a healthy dose of Financier @Tommy Callahan 80% Musk-eteer, 20% MAGA Mind-Melder @L Ron Burgundy see Tiberius @ComradeKayAdams Liberal Warrior with a pinch of Elite Power Consumer I think we call this The Misanthrope. isn't that just a $5 word for liberal? 1 hour ago, sherpa said: I'd rather make news than get news. In the OP, CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin is a tried and true NYC liberal. No issues with that, but I'm a Squawk Box watcher every day, from 6-7, then Today Show for ten minutes as the Mrs. joins me, then back to CNBC once Al Roker starts his weather histrionics or they do anything entertainment industry related, which I have zero interest in. First selection on the laptop every AM is google news, and I avoid known biased sites. No Fox. No MSNBC. No CNN. For accurate middle east and specifically day to day Navy operations, I watch Ward Carroll on Youtube. Extremely well informed, honest and not the usual knucklehead that you see on networks. news.google is a wonderful source of all things that has it all in the open and eventually can deliver some interesting personal news stories. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 Just now, boyst said: isn't that just a $5 word for liberal? I never thought of Scrooge as a liberal
boyst Posted March 25 Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I like Drudge a lot. Leads me to topics, often from world sources which can then be followed up on. No finance reads except I like the Economist and check yahoo finance for numbers. Figured out a while ago that managing money was better done by someone other than me. i remember 25 years ago Drudge and the WSJ were tremendously unbias, unfiltered, and boring. it's amazing how the drive for a buck has changed it all. Just now, The Frankish Reich said: I never thought of Scrooge as a liberal think deeper on it and revert to the true definition and not the johnny come lately rebrand.
ChiGoose Posted March 25 Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Not a terrible plan. My go-to news sources: WSJ and NYT digital subscriber. There's your center-right and center-left. Memeorandum as the best news aggregator to quickly browse. No Twitter account. No Facebook. No Tik-Tok. I just don't like getting inundated with stuff they think I'd like. Some blogs that point me to interesting stuff: marginalrevolution (right-libertarian leaning economists), themoneyillusion (Scott Sumner, economist, similar but also a good film critic on the side), astralcodexten ("Scott Alexander," very libertarian, just an interesting thinker about lots of things) TV: not an everday regular of any program, but I often check out CNBC (umm, waiting for Deirdre Bosa to appear while I get my financial news; I'm a fan of Rick Santelli too for very different reasons). I will watch the opening 10 minutes of a Morning Show (they all irritate me, but it's a quick news review); BBC America half hour evening news sometimes - much, much better international news coverage. Same with the CNN World coverage late at night if I'm up. MSNBC/Morning Joe last hour only sometimes (the hour aimed a DC newsmakers, not Joe's annoying rants with nodding head Mika). I also record Fareed Zakaria's GPS show. Pretty much avoid the other Sunday morning public affairs shows now. I also subscribe to NYT digital but can’t bring myself to spend money on a Murdoch property. I do get the print editions of The Economist which gives center-right perspective with an international focus I find very informative. Twitter tends to be what you make of it. I’ve mostly curated my news feed towards beat reporters instead of publications or outlets. Like following people on the Bills beat as opposed to ESPN or the official Bills accounts. I don’t watch tv news with the exception of major events or occasionally watching WGN for local news here. Generally, CNN is only on for NYE because my wife likes to watch the hosts get drunk on air. I’d much rather read an article or listen to a podcast than watch a show. Feels like a lot of the show format is to either evoke emotional reactions to keep you invested through the ad break or to fill time to meet their 30 or 60 minute air time. I’m not familiar with half the shows people talk about here. I’ve only started getting into financial news in the last two years. My last job barred me from trading stocks due having access to MNPI. That’s not an issue anymore so I have a small brokerage account just for fun. Haven’t really gotten into too much though.
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Rather then where you get your news the question is how do you know who to believe and who not to believe? What sources to trust and what sources not to trust? Does anyone actually know these people personally? Know them well enough to say they have trust in them? Know their character and ethics? Most I suspect rely on confirmation bias. For example, the New York Times. Its known they have an activist approach to journalism heavily skewed to the left. Why should I believe their reporting is going to be an unbiased fact driven news story rather than something else if the "facts" contradict their beliefs and telling the truth "hurts" their interests? Why should I believe Fox reporters are giving me straight fact and truth driven news rather than a sprinkling of personal op/ed and a conservative slant? Why do most trust one or the other, while few trust both, and even fewer trust neither? 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Allow me to help: Musk-eteer. Interesting...I don't listen to Joe Rogan, have no idea what "All In" is, my podcasts (thus far) are limited to financial hosts/channels, and am unfamiliar with Bari Weiss. My social media presence is a Fb page started to follow my children, that has now grown to tens and tens of friends. However, I have to acknowledges that your timing and delivery on this one was spot on--I was waiting on an appointment at my doctor's office and I'm sure they were wondering what I was laughing at as I read your reply. 2 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) Drudge is one of my go to for its index of sites both foreign and domestic. I have some favorites from greenwald to cover1. And depends on the topic. and a handful of local news sources in my favorites. Edited March 26 by Tommy Callahan 1
Precision Posted March 25 Posted March 25 8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: 1. The Musk-eteers: This is a fast-growing, mostly male group who feed off Twitter, podcasts (especially "All-In" and Joe Rogan), and follow independent reporters, led by Bari Weiss, through social media or newsletters. *** 3. TikTok kids: This is where most kids get most of their information about the world and hot news topics. They scroll, fast and furious, through pictures and microbursts of information — and trust people most parents have never heard of. Think MrBeast, Addison Rae and Zach King. *** 5. Right-wing grandpas: Senior citizens, especially men, still flock to Fox News — especially in prime time, and especially around popular personalities. They would have been big Rush Limbaugh fans back in the '90s. 6. MAGA mind melders: The new conservative news ecosystem would seem like a distant planet to anyone whose habits were formed pre-Trump. People like Charlie Kirk (massive because he's multiplatform), Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich are dominant voices. Then there are folks who are taken seriously only in Trumpworld (Laura Loomer, Alex Bruesewitz), but can really move the needle there. No one rivals Tucker Carlson with the base, even without his Fox News platform. Don Jr. is second, with his massive X, Facebook and Instagram engagement. "He's the meme lord of the right," a MAGA insider told us. Steve Bannon's WarRoom remains a juggernaut. Breitbart's Matt Boyle is a go-to newsbreaker on the right. Plus there's a potent crew of video clip guys. 7. Liberal warriors: Think of Rachel Maddow as patron saint of this bloc. Hence her sky-high ratings. This crowd feeds daily off The New York Times (especially opinion pieces) and prestige magazines (especially The Atlantic and The New Yorker). They once were addicted to Twitter but left, or lessened their dependency, after Musk turned it into X. Elite power-consumers: This is the Axios base. These are mainly college-educated, ambitious professionals — we estimate 25 million-45 million nationally — who seek out news near-daily, partly for passion and partly for professional enhancement. This group is most likely to overlap with other bubbles and lap up "Morning Joe." These power-users are huge fans of newsletters, which in some respects mimic in shrunken form newspapers: a beginning and end, punctuated with pictures and visuals. LinkedIn is a hot, if still small, pipeline for content. 8. Elite power-consumers: This is the Axios base. These are mainly college-educated, ambitious professionals — we estimate 25 million-45 million nationally — who seek out news near-daily, partly for passion and partly for professional enhancement. This group is most likely to overlap with other bubbles and lap up "Morning Joe." These power-users are huge fans of newsletters, which in some respects mimic in shrunken form newspapers: a beginning and end, punctuated with pictures and visuals. LinkedIn is a hot, if still small, pipeline for content. 9. The financiers: This is the base of The Wall Street Journal, CNBC (especially "Squawk Box") and DealBook, the newsletter by New York Times and "Squawk" star Andrew Ross Sorkin. Lots of rich, white, older East Coast or big-city professionals live here. https://www.axios.com/2024/03/25/news-media-filter-bubble-different-realities (I didn't paste certain categories that seem pretty rare around here) Do you recognize yourself here? I think I'm a mix of the about 50% category 8, 30% category 9, 20% category 7. I do get more than my fair share of MAGA Mind Melders, Fox Grandpas, and Musk-eteers second hand, by reading posts here, but I read those more like an Anthropologist on Mars. I think your categorization is broad and I expect most consumers of the news access content based on the subject matter that interests them. I expect you are probably referring to "political news" but I will respond as if you are not. I read the local paper (on-line addition) and watch local channels for weather and stories in my area. For international content I might watch a US MSM outlet or the BBC. For sports it varies on the team/sport. I read the WSJ for the financial content and participate in a few message boards for that as well. For politics I will go to a few websites/message boards as I find the content and discussions are more in depth than can be offered by any of the above sources. Additionally, most of the above content is a one-way feed from the source to the consumer which I find as mentally stimulating as watching SpongeBob. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: So says master prognosticator Scott Adams, who somehow didn't see his 3rd wife's divorce filing coming ... 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Drudge is one of my go to for its index of sites both foreign and domestic. I have some favorites from greenwald cover1. And depends on the topic. greenwald cover1 sounds like a spy agency. I think drudge is fair and balanced as they say. Edited March 26 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
ChiGoose Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: greenwald cover1 sounds like a spy agency. Cover1 is an excellent Bills content site. Greenwald is a hack. 1 1
SCBills Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Definitely X As someone stated above, it can be what you make of it. Want a MAGA echo chamber, go ahead .. follow a bunch of MSM accounts, there ya go.. hammer & sickle vibes, it’s there for you too. I follow mostly younger conservative non-MAGA people, which is basically what I am. Mix in some more moderate/conservative Dem accounts like Chris Cuomo (who’s not bad in his new gig) and that’s my arena. Tim Dillon has the best socio-political podcast. 3
Andy1 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) I’m in a vehicle for about 2.5 hours a day so I listen to NPR or various podcasts like The Bukwark, Ted Talks, Michael Steele, Buffalo Plus, Locked On Bills, Post Reports, The Economist and various ones on science or geography topics. I watch local TV news and PBS evening news. Cable news is often lacking since they often don’t take the time to explain complex issues or they keep hammering the same story to death. I like 60 Minutes in depth reporting on Sundays. I usually do an X check each day and check news.google a few times a week and talk about bigger events with friends who are all over the political spectrum. This is a good thread giving me some sources to check out. Edited March 26 by Andy1 2 1
Westside Posted March 26 Posted March 26 10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: greenwald cover1 sounds like a spy agency. I think drudge is fair and balanced as they say. Do you think msnbc and cnn are fair and balanced? And no, I don’t think fox is either. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 26 Posted March 26 24 minutes ago, Westside said: Do you think msnbc and cnn are fair and balanced? And no, I don’t think fox is either. Cover 1 does great film breakdowns of the bills. They hate Greenwald because he was a DEM that saw the lies and now reports on the BS no matter what side. the articles drudge wants you to read are crap. but below are links to hundreds of other sites.
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