thenorthremembers Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Biden voters are very unlikely to be the people taken in the rapture. 1
Sojourner Posted November 6 Posted November 6 On 3/27/2024 at 7:50 PM, BillsFanNC said: So Biden and Trump 2 are both fraudulent elections by that standard? 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Sojourner said: So Biden and Trump 2 are both fraudulent elections by that standard? Nope. 2020 was the most secure election in US history. 2024 had much less mail in voting, so it can't hope to be declared as secure as 2020.
Sojourner Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Nope. 2020 was the most secure election in US history. 2024 had much less mail in voting, so it can't hope to be declared as secure as 2020. I was being facetious. Sorry. 1
SCBills Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Yea… I’m pretty much open to the idea that 2020 was not on the up and up now. Trump can say it was stolen all he wants.. I can’t blame him anymore. 2
K D Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yea… I’m pretty much open to the idea that 2020 was not on the up and up now. Trump can say it was stolen all he wants.. I can’t blame him anymore. Definitely demands further scrutiny now. But I don't want to make it a thing until they find something. Do it on the down low. If the media thinks Trump is spending all day trying to overturn the 2020 election they will go nuts with the propaganda 1
Ghost_002! Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yea… I’m pretty much open to the idea that 2020 was not on the up and up now. Trump can say it was stolen all he wants.. I can’t blame him anymore. ??? With no evidence..i mean it's been 4 years now, we still on this?
Back2Buff Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: ??? With no evidence..i mean it's been 4 years now, we still on this? People went to jail over it, may still be in jail.
Ghost_002! Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Back2Buff said: People went to jail over it, may still be in jail. What people? This has hit about every court and still, goose eggs. Just speculations. 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: What people? This has hit about every court and still, goose eggs. Just speculations. All rejected on standing. Not so much as an evidentiary hearing. There's mountains of evidence.
Ghost_002! Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, BillsFanNC said: All rejected on standing. Not so much as an evidentiary hearing. There's mountains of evidence. Where is this evidence?? 4 years for this "so-call" evidence and nothing has been proven otherwise.
BillsFanNC Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Where is this evidence?? 4 years for this "so-call" evidence and nothing has been proven otherwise. I understand everything laid out here are things that you don't want to hear, but it's evidence nonetheless. This is my favorite lane of propaganda to debunk. There is no proof that the 2020 election was stolen except: 1. Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020 election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 election. 2. Mark Zuckerberg, hard left, spent $450 million dollars of private money on our elections. After the 2020 election analysis revealed that most of that money went to benefit Democrats. 3. 6 swing states stopped counting the votes on election night for the first time in American history. At the time that they stopped counting the votes, Donald Trump was ahead of Biden in each of them. 4. The unelected tech oligarchs in conjunction with the FBI in this country censored a very important story about Hunter Biden’s laptop and Joe Biden’s corruption. People who worked in the intelligence community, came out and said it was Russian disinformation only to have that laptop be admitted into evidence as part of an FBI investigation and criminal prosecution of Hunter Biden. Polling after the election showed that if people knew about the Hunter Biden laptop story it would’ve changed 17% of the vote. 5. 2,036,041 ballots were touched by anomalies. 6. 923 American citizens filled out affidavits alleging voter fraud, and signed them under penalties of perjury. 7. 50 plus courts blocked evidentiary hearings into the alleged fraud found in 2020. 8. Prior to 2020 there were four other contested elections, one in Florida, one in the 78th district of Missouri, one in the ninth district of North Carolina, and one in the 22nd district of New York. In every single one of those four instances, there was an evidentiary hearing. In the 2020 election, there was no evidentiary hearing. For the first time in American history. 9. No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in various states. 10. 37 states in the United States of America altered their absentee or mail in ballots ballot integrity procedures before the 2020 election. 11. If those 37 states used the same ballot integrity procedures that they used in 2018, swing states would’ve found an upwards of 30,000 more ineligible ballots. 12. In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after the election. 13. Any one of those is enough to say that there was enough fraud in the 2020 election to doubt the outcome. Can I prove Donald Trump would’ve won the election if the Democrats hadn’t cheated? No I can’t prove a counter-narrative, but I can tell you that this amount of fraud leads any reasonable person to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn’t win. 2 3
Back2Buff Posted November 6 Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: What people? This has hit about every court and still, goose eggs. Just speculations. Tina Peters
Ghost_002! Posted November 6 Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I understand everything laid out here are things that you don't want to hear, but it's evidence nonetheless. This is my favorite lane of propaganda to debunk. There is no proof that the 2020 election was stolen except: 1. Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020 election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 election. 2. Mark Zuckerberg, hard left, spent $450 million dollars of private money on our elections. After the 2020 election analysis revealed that most of that money went to benefit Democrats. 3. 6 swing states stopped counting the votes on election night for the first time in American history. At the time that they stopped counting the votes, Donald Trump was ahead of Biden in each of them. 4. The unelected tech oligarchs in conjunction with the FBI in this country censored a very important story about Hunter Biden’s laptop and Joe Biden’s corruption. People who worked in the intelligence community, came out and said it was Russian disinformation only to have that laptop be admitted into evidence as part of an FBI investigation and criminal prosecution of Hunter Biden. Polling after the election showed that if people knew about the Hunter Biden laptop story it would’ve changed 17% of the vote. 5. 2,036,041 ballots were touched by anomalies. 6. 923 American citizens filled out affidavits alleging voter fraud, and signed them under penalties of perjury. 7. 50 plus courts blocked evidentiary hearings into the alleged fraud found in 2020. 8. Prior to 2020 there were four other contested elections, one in Florida, one in the 78th district of Missouri, one in the ninth district of North Carolina, and one in the 22nd district of New York. In every single one of those four instances, there was an evidentiary hearing. In the 2020 election, there was no evidentiary hearing. For the first time in American history. 9. No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in various states. 10. 37 states in the United States of America altered their absentee or mail in ballots ballot integrity procedures before the 2020 election. 11. If those 37 states used the same ballot integrity procedures that they used in 2018, swing states would’ve found an upwards of 30,000 more ineligible ballots. 12. In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after the election. 13. Any one of those is enough to say that there was enough fraud in the 2020 election to doubt the outcome. Can I prove Donald Trump would’ve won the election if the Democrats hadn’t cheated? No I can’t prove a counter-narrative, but I can tell you that this amount of fraud leads any reasonable person to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn’t win. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55016029 https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/almost-third-americans-still-believe-2020-election-result-was-fraudule-rcna90145 Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulent There's no evidence widespread fraud affected the outcome of the 2020 election, but Trump and allies have spent years undercutting the election's legitimacy. .......... There remains no evidence that widespread fraud substantially affected the outcome of the 2020 election, and virtually all of the dozens of legal cases filed by former President Donald Trump and allies were dismissed or withdrawn. ........ But yeah...."there's evidence" 🙄. Ok.
Ghost_002! Posted November 6 Posted November 6 20 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Tina Peters Wasn't she convicted with tampering with machines claiming the election was stolen?
Steve O Posted November 6 Posted November 6 On 3/27/2024 at 9:49 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: Any argument that 2020 was a more secure election than any of the previous ones for at least 100 years is stupid and intentionally ignorant. Everytime you add an additional layer between the voter and machine you add a chance of malfeasance/incompetence. Every time you don't verify the voter you greatly increase the chance of malfeasance. And if the vote is not done quickly and efficiently you add in the ability to mess with it. All three of these items were present in 2020, and GA and PA had them in huge amounts. These points are inarguable to an intelligent person, the only question is what conclusions we teach from these facts. Listen, we're talking about people who believe that an epidemic caused by an experimental virus that originated down the street from a lab where the virus was being studied somehow occurred naturally.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 7 Posted November 7 5 hours ago, Steve O said: Listen, we're talking about people who believe that an epidemic caused by an experimental virus that originated down the street from a lab where the virus was being studied somehow occurred naturally. Hey don't you spread that conspiracy theory here, oh wait we now admitted the obvious, never mind.
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