Is drafting Diggs replacement a priority in this draft?

[3rdand12]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Why not defensive line?  
 

After this year, we will be back to having minimal depth.  Von could be gone.  I would not be surprised if they went DL if a BPA is there 

Sweat for president !

And the WR , order does not matter. Maneuvering might be required

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Why not defensive line?  
 

After this year, we will be back to having minimal depth.  Von could be gone.  I would not be surprised if they went DL if a BPA is there 

Because since 2019 the Bills have spent 2,622 points of draft capital on the defensive line. By comparison, in the same time period they have spent 126 on WR

 

They have invested over 20x as much draft capital into dline as they have into WR...time for a new approach

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Because since 2019 the Bills have spent 2,622 points of draft capital on the defensive line. By comparison, in the same time period they have spent 126 on WR

 

They have invested over 20x as much draft capital into dline as they have into WR...time for a new approach

So, the data would suggest they are more likely to value defensive line 😋.

 

To be clear, I’m with you.  I have too much ptsd from their drafting DL early.  However, if there is a game wrecker there at Edge, I’d support it.  I don’t think that person will be there at 28 though.  

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I would trade Diggs and two 1st rd picks right now if it meant we could get into the top 10 for Harrison Jr or Nabers 

[stuvian]

if you have a chance to get a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase level talent on a rookie contract, you do it

[BillsFanForever19]

40 minutes ago, stuvian said:

if you have a chance to get a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase level talent on a rookie contract, you do it

 

You talk of it as if taking a guy in Round 1 means that's what we're getting. Ideally, we're able to Draft a guy who becomes that. But that's a MASSIVE ask at 28.

 

Jefferson was drafted at 25 and was WR5. But he's very much the exception, not the rule. And Chase was drafted 5th overall.

 

I think we should take a WR in Round 1. But invoking the names of Jefferson and Chase are some mighty lofty expectations.

Edited March 31 by BillsFanForever19

[stuvian]

3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You talk of it as if taking a guy in Round 1 means that's what we're getting. Ideally, we're able to Draft a guy who becomes that. But that's a MASSIVE ask at 28.

 

Jefferson was drafted at 25 and was WR5. But he's very much the exception, not the rule. And Chase was drafted 5th overall.

 

I think we should take a WR in Round 1. But invoking the names of Jefferson and Chase are some mighty lofty expectations.

Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp say Hi

[BillsFanForever19]

20 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp say Hi

 

That's awesome, but again, the exceptions - not the rule.

 

I'm simply saying that you HOPE that whomever we take is good and can become great. But there's no guarantee that simply taking one means you're getting a Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, or Cooper Kupp level talent.

 

Round 1 at WR doesn't guarantee we've just gotten ourselves one of the best WR's in the NFL - like the names you're invoking imply. You could draft the next Justin Jefferson. Or you could end up with the next Quentin Johnston, Treylon Burks, Kadarius Toney, Rashod Bateman, Henry Ruggs, Jaelon Raegor, or N'Keal Harry level talent.

 

The only prospects that you can consider "Ja'Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson level talents" are Marvin Harrison Jr. or Malik Nabers. Even they're projections and we aren't sniffing either one of them.

Edited March 31 by BillsFanForever19

[stuvian]

17 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's awesome, but again, the exceptions - not the rule.

 

I'm simply saying that you HOPE that whomever we take is good and can become great. But there's no guarantee that simply taking one means you're getting a Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, or Cooper Kupp level talent.

 

Round 1 at WR doesn't guarantee we've just gotten ourselves one of the best WR's in the NFL - like the names you're invoking imply. You could draft the next Justin Jefferson. Or you could end up with the next Quentin Johnston, Treylon Burks, Kadarius Toney, Rashod Bateman, Henry Ruggs, Jaelon Raegor, or N'Keal Harry level talent.

 

The only prospects that you can consider "Ja'Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson level talents" are Marvin Harrison Jr. or Malik Nabers. Even they're projections and we aren't sniffing either one of them.

I'd rather see us go defense personally I don't expect a world beater at our draft spot there either

[Ralonzo]

On 3/23/2024 at 2:28 PM, BarleyNY said:

So we’re pretty flush with Y and Z types in Diggs, Samuel, Shakir and Kincaid. But we don’t have that X. It is difficult to find an X who can do it all. It’s easier to find a Gabe Davis who can get deep, but isn’t good at uncovering quickly on shorter routes. Obviously if you can find someone who is big, fast and agile you go get that guy. But if you can’t, then what’s your next best option? 

 

The next best option to an all-purpose WR1 playing the X is a Gabe Davis replacement who's not on a Jacksonville contract. It may be Shorter. It may be somewhere in this draft in that Gabe Davis zone - not at the top, but early Day 3 where the Bills happen to be flush with picks, maybe a guy like Devontez falls, or get value on a Cornelius Johnson or Johnny Wilson. If you're feeling sporty go back to UCF for Javon Baker, he can't run worse routes than Davis, can he?

[3rdand12]

15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's awesome, but again, the exceptions - not the rule.

 

I'm simply saying that you HOPE that whomever we take is good and can become great. But there's no guarantee that simply taking one means you're getting a Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, or Cooper Kupp level talent.

 

Round 1 at WR doesn't guarantee we've just gotten ourselves one of the best WR's in the NFL - like the names you're invoking imply. You could draft the next Justin Jefferson. Or you could end up with the next Quentin Johnston, Treylon Burks, Kadarius Toney, Rashod Bateman, Henry Ruggs, Jaelon Raegor, or N'Keal Harry level talent.

 

The only prospects that you can consider "Ja'Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson level talents" are Marvin Harrison Jr. or Malik Nabers. Even they're projections and we aren't sniffing either one of them.

Bills also have the " issue " of coaching up draft picks quickly and completely.

My main reason for not reaching up the board much if at all.

and certainly not next years first

Now for the actual Jefferson or Chase  ....😍

13 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

The next best option to an all-purpose WR1 playing the X is a Gabe Davis replacement who's not on a Jacksonville contract. It may be Shorter. It may be somewhere in this draft in that Gabe Davis zone - not at the top, but early Day 3 where the Bills happen to be flush with picks, maybe a guy like Devontez falls, or get value on a Cornelius Johnson or Johnny Wilson. If you're feeling sporty go back to UCF for Javon Baker, he can't run worse routes than Davis, can he?

Agreed about where you find an X receiver with wheels. 

 But i do want the Bills to try and get a starter at WR early enough to make impact.

and why I say 2 Wrs from the draft possibly. One early and one who has a nice ceiling and speed already.

[Nephilim17]

Now's a deep draft for receiver. Considering the Bills should be competitive most years and picking in the mid to low 20s (hopefully 32 some years)... if now now, when?

We have an aging number 1. No proven young boundary receivers. When should we wait to draft a potential number 1 to replace Steph? Not every year will be loaded at WR like this. Look at last year.

[Turbo44]

On 3/29/2024 at 12:49 PM, 3rdand12 said:

Sweat for president !

And the WR , order does not matter. Maneuvering might be required

28 is too early for sweat. Wouldn’t mind a wr at 28 and a trade up from 60 to the mid 40s for sweat though

[3rdand12]

On 3/31/2024 at 4:14 PM, Turbo44 said:

28 is too early for sweat. Wouldn’t mind a wr at 28 and a trade up from 60 to the mid 40s for sweat though

Agreed about the maneuvering for sure

 I feel much depends on the WRs they feel could jump the Offense. Could be two of em if they dont push hard

My priority and , I should be BPA  lol

is nailing the WR room for tomorrow and the future

 Thanks Turbo

[Mikie2times]

I think we need a WR to supplement our WR position. It has nothing to do with Diggs. Further, I don't even know how much any WR will contribute year one. WR is a complicated position and multiple Bills are on record with how complicated it is to play for us. Josh just did a video and he made this facial expression when asked about it as if to reinforce just how difficult it is. I do think we could see a draft pick potentially turn it on late in the year which is fine, that is when we need it most. 

[DCofNC]

I look at Nacua last year and wonder how he dropped, Jefferson was late round 1, etc.  those are just lately.

[Nihilarian]

I think so! 

[Virgil]

Just curious to see what people think now

[JDubya76]

If it wasn’t before, it is now. 
 

maybe just a little

[DJB]

I already thought drafting a WR at 28 had to happen and was a massive need. 

 

Its now situation critical that we do