BillStime Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Notice who Karen is giving a pass for the horrific events in Moscow? The US warned Moscow that ISIS militants were determined to target Russia in the days before assailants stormed the Crocus City Hall in an attack that killed scores of people, but President Vladimir Putin rejected the advice as “provocative.”
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: Sheep to the TV, is like Greek to the cave wall Is there any reason why you posts tweets about Reuters articles, instead of actual Reuters articles? Curious to know why what some NPC says about the news is more important than the actual news.
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Brit said: Plenty of reasons that there is a difference in reaction. 1. Familiarity. Lots of people have been to Paris, not so many to Moscow. 2. Culture. France is an enlightened democracy with plenty of shared values. Russia is a totalitarian state run by a corrupt despot. 3. Coverage. Paris, as the capital of a democratic country, has a lot of news broadcasters and the amount of footage and reporting was enormous. Moscow is a totalitarian state with few foreign news teams (and limited in what they can do or where they can go). And the state run propaganda chanels are generally crap. 4. A lot of the pro-Paris stuff was from within Europe, whose nations are VERY closely tied to one another these days. Except for Putin's Russia and its satellite states, of course. 5. Unlikely to go to war any time in the next century vs Putin says in his statements that he should be ruling at least half of Europe and have troops in Berlin. So, yeah, there are major differences as to the reaction. With the Russian attack there is empathy for the victims but not the widespread outpouring of support as there was for Paris. It also does not help with the sympathy angele that Putin is blaming the west/Ukraine for the IS attack, which is complete bollocks. The unique circumstance in this attack is the presumption the 4 attackers Russia claims they apprehended heading toward the Ukraine border are the group that actually executed the attack, were captured and not killed. They did not blow themselves up to take as many infidels with them as possible. At a glace this doesn't appear to be a religious motivated attack, more a pay for hire type arrangement. Whether they were part of ISIS-K or Special-K may be immaterial. The handlers of the group of 4 may well be ISIS-K or recruited and paid by ISIS-K but what isn't know is who might be, if anyone, the handlers of ISIS-K here? Russian state security is claiming one of the attackers has already confessed and stated they received their instructions and funding through a Telegram social media channel (something I'm not at all familiar with). How hard can that be to track? If this was simply a terrorist group attack or some orchestrated intelligence operation by some government organization, sanctioned or unsanctioned, they've left a lot of breadcrumbs and a trail to follow. This surely has a way to go before it all plays out. For me that takes the US/CIA or UK/MI6 types out of the picture because their ops are not going to leave any loose ends. But other less skilled State actors, not sure. Edited March 25 by All_Pro_Bills 2
BillStime Posted March 25 Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The unique circumstance in this attack is the presumption the 4 attackers Russia claims they apprehended heading toward the Ukraine border are the group that actually executed the attack, were captured and not killed. They did not blow themselves up to take as many infidels with them as possible. At a glace this doesn't appear to be a religious motivated attack, more a pay for hire type arrangement. Whether they were part of ISIS-K or Special-K may be immaterial. The handlers of the group of 4 may well be ISIS-K or recruited and paid by ISIS-K but what isn't know is who might be, if anyone, the handlers of ISIS-K here? Russian state security is claiming one of the attackers has already confessed and stated they received their instructions and funding through a Telegram social media channel (something I'm not at all familiar with). How hard can that be to track? If this was simply a terrorist group attack or some orchestrated intelligence operation by some government organization, sanctioned or unsanctioned, they've left a lot of breadcrumbs and a trail to follow. This surely has a way to go before it all plays out. For me that takes the US/CIA or UK/MI6 types out of the picture because their ops are not going to leave any loose ends. But other less skilled State actors, not sure. When it comes to Russia, we will receive the "news" that Putin wants us to hear. For further guidance, please consult Karen Psyop.
Tommy Callahan Posted March 25 Posted March 25 44 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The unique circumstance in this attack is the presumption the 4 attackers Russia claims they apprehended heading toward the Ukraine border are the group that actually executed the attack, were captured and not killed. They did not blow themselves up to take as many infidels with them as possible. At a glace this doesn't appear to be a religious motivated attack, more a pay for hire type arrangement. Whether they were part of ISIS-K or Special-K may be immaterial. The handlers of the group of 4 may well be ISIS-K or recruited and paid by ISIS-K but what isn't know is who might be, if anyone, the handlers of ISIS-K here? Russian state security is claiming one of the attackers has already confessed and stated they received their instructions and funding through a Telegram social media channel (something I'm not at all familiar with). How hard can that be to track? If this was simply a terrorist group attack or some orchestrated intelligence operation by some government organization, sanctioned or unsanctioned, they've left a lot of breadcrumbs and a trail to follow. This surely has a way to go before it all plays out. For me that takes the US/CIA or UK/MI6 types out of the picture because their ops are not going to leave any loose ends. But other less skilled State actors, not sure. From the cyber finger prints to any evidence of who put the weapons in that location seems there would be some avenues for actual investigations.
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: When it comes to Russia, we will receive the "news" that Putin wants us to hear. For further guidance, please consult Karen Psyop. The fun part of all this intelligence and spy business absent firsthand knowledge is you don't really ever know who is telling the truth and who is lying. Edited March 25 by All_Pro_Bills 1 2
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 3/23/2024 at 12:42 PM, All_Pro_Bills said: Under interrogation and certain torture we can expect they'll be talking.
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