Saint Doug Posted March 23 Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Augie said: ….with blue cheese, right? This is always fun, like when you go to bed with a MegaMillions ticket in your wallet. It could happen…… For the record, forget all you people, if I get to choose between winning the MegaMillions and the Bills getting MHJ, I will gladly buy you ALL a beer instead. 😋 That’s going too far. Let them have ranch. 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 23 hours ago, julian said: Please baby Jesus allow for a MHJ gas mask photo to suddenly surface hours before the draft. sending it out now. 3 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 11:15 PM, Dan in Owego said: I heard on the dark web there is videos of him kicking puppies, and even worse things i don't dare mention🤐 Yeah but the puppies told him they were 18 (in dog years).... Quote
Sargent Hulka Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/22/2024 at 3:05 AM, Brand J said: To put it into perspective, let’s attach some names to the draft picks. Is MHJ worth: Kaair Elam, Boogie Basham, Greg Rousseau, O’Cyrus Torrence, and Matt Milano? (I mixed in busts and successes for an accurate portrayal of what those future picks might look like). What if Beane got supremely lucky and hit on all those picks? Dalton Kincaid, James Cook, Tre White, Dion Dawkins, and Khalil Shakir. Is one MHJ, who’s talent could range anywhere between HoFer to an injury prone bust, worth giving up 4-5 years of five young, cost controlled contracts? You don’t trade the farm for a non-QB. End of discussion. Let the draft come to you and select the best wideout available at 28 if that’s the path you want to take. You absolutely do make that trade. Reason: the future is now with Allen, not 4-5 years of cost controlled contracts. 1 Quote
Maynard Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Arizona has made it clear that they are open for business. Damn it’s tempting, but bears a lot of risk. Quote
Augie Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Maynard said: Arizona has made it clear that they are open for business. Damn it’s tempting, but bears a lot of risk. I enjoy watching the Bills drafts. I’d hate for that 4th pick to eliminate my enjoyment for the rest of this draft and the best part of next year’s draft. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 23 Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Maynard said: Arizona has made it clear that they are open for business. Damn it’s tempting, but bears a lot of risk. I'd be willing to be a little reckless to make it happen, but I'm afraid it might require much more than sustainable crazy to grab the pick. You're probably talking #28, #60, and next year's first and second, plus. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted March 23 Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Sargent Hulka said: You absolutely do make that trade. Reason: the future is now with Allen, not 4-5 years of cost controlled contracts. No offense, but I’m glad you’re not running the team. 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/22/2024 at 5:22 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: 3 1sts would be a non-starter for us since it’s not a QB. 2 1sts & 2 2nds is a fair starting spot IMO. Even if we had to add something else Bears at 9 for Nabers Broncos at 12 for Odunze Seahawks at 16 for Thomas Jr Would be more realistic move ups for us with Brady’s connections to LSU, I’d think Nabers or Thomas Jr would be the trade up targets. Also Brady recruited Troy Franklin even though he didn’t end up at LSU Recall KC trade up with buffalo….. 10 for 27+ late 3rd+1st following year 1 Quote
Sargent Hulka Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Augie said: I enjoy watching the Bills drafts. I’d hate for that 4th pick to eliminate my enjoyment for the rest of this draft and the best part of next year’s draft. You can watch the Bills draft every year. I'd rather watch them win the Super Bowl next year. Make the trade! 1 hour ago, Brand J said: No offense, but I’m glad you’re not running the team. Some times you have to swing for the fences, which are not for the faint of heart. Edited March 23 by Sargent Hulka Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: Recall KC trade up with buffalo….. 10 for 27+ late 3rd+1st following year That was an outrageously low pay for KC to move up, for Mahomes yet. No one's going to reciprocate for the Bills' try to move up, and this time the cost would be for a top 5 pick. Edited March 23 by Dr. Who 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: That was an outrageously low pay for KC to move up, for Mahomes yet. No one's going to reciprocate for the Bills' try to move up, and this time the cost would be for a top 5 pick. The trade chart says it is value 1 Quote
BBFL Posted March 24 Posted March 24 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: That was an outrageously low pay for KC to move up, for Mahomes yet. No one's going to reciprocate for the Bills' try to move up, and this time the cost would be for a top 5 pick. You’re absolutely right. Thought we got a little less than we should have at the time. Ball park to get into the 10-15 range would be what? Pick 28 and next years 1st & 3rd? Quote
Brand J Posted March 24 Posted March 24 15 minutes ago, Sargent Hulka said: You can watch the Bills draft every year. I'd rather watch them win the Super Bowl next year. Make the trade! Some times you have to swing for the fences, which are not for the faint of heart. You don’t swing for the fences on any position that isn’t a QB. You can’t win in the NFL without a QB, so those trades are justified. You especially don’t throw away multiple 1sts, 2nds, and whatever else the Cardinals want because it’d mean sacrificing numerous other significant contributors. The NFL is a team game, one all pro WR isn’t more impactful than a collective great WR, a very good edge rusher, a very good safety, and a very good defensive tackle. And even if one or two of those positions bust, you still have a chance that the rest become high level players, including the receiver you could’ve just stayed pat and selected at 28. No one knows how any of these players will pan out. You want to take a swing? Do it for already proven NFL talent. Quote
BBFL Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: The trade chart says it is value Can always get a little more when you know the options are very thin and they want the position that’s of need to them… 2 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 24 Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, BBFL said: You’re absolutely right. Thought we got a little less than we should have at the time. Ball park to get into the 10-15 range would be what? Pick 28 and next years 1st & 3rd? The chart I looked at has #28 worth 660 points. #10 is 1300 and # 15 is 1050. My guess is your price might get you #10, but I suppose it depends on the negotiators and how desperate the team is to move up. 1 Quote
BBFL Posted March 24 Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: The chart I looked at has #28 worth 660 points. #10 is 1300 and # 15 is 1050. My guess is your price might get you #10, but I suppose it depends on the negotiators and how desperate the team is to move up. It’ll be a long shot but the Bears are probably the best team to trade with. They have nothing this year to work with and might be willing to part with #9 for a couple later picks, and 2025 1st & 3rd. Would love that to be the case of Nabers or Odunze are still on the clock. However, if that’s the case I see a few teams calling them… 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 24 Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, BBFL said: It’ll be a long shot but the Bears are probably the best team to trade with. They have nothing this year to work with and might be willing to part with #9 for a couple later picks, and 2025 1st & 3rd. Would love that to be the case of Nabers or Odunze are still on the clock. However, if that’s the case I see a few teams calling them… I've been hoping for a big X, but if Nabers is available there, push all your chips in. It wouldn't be a total shock if Nabers is the first WR off the board. 2 Quote
BBFL Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I've been hoping for a big X, but if Nabers is available there, push all your chips in. It wouldn't be a total shock if Nabers is the first WR off the board. Yeah, it’s Nabers & MHJ as the 1 and 2. Take your pick as whos first. Personally, it’s MHJ for me but each to their own. Odunze isn’t that far behind. I’d actually group Odunze and Thomas as the 3 & 4. Edge goes to Odunze due to back to back solid seasons @ Washington. They measured similarly across the board at the combine drills with the only obvious difference being the 40 time where Thomas was noticeably faster than expected. Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 24 Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, BBFL said: Yeah, it’s Nabers & MHJ as the 1 and 2. Take your pick as whos first. Personally, it’s MHJ for me but each to their own. Odunze isn’t that far behind. I’d actually group Odunze and Thomas as the 3 & 4. Edge goes to Odunze due to back to back solid seasons @ Washington. They measured similarly across the board at the combine drills with the only obvious difference being the 40 time where Thomas was noticeably faster than expected. I mostly agree. I think you are correct, actually, but I am inclined to gamble on Thomas over Odunze because of the speed. I know he is a one-trick pony right now, but it's a damn fine trick, and I believe there is lots of room to grow. 2 Quote
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