Does Josh Allen still work as hard in the offseason?

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

 

He’s not into PR stunts. 

That’s not an answer to the question I asked.

[WyoAZBillfan]

You mean the way Brady was constantly working in off season with his revivers?🤦🏼‍♂️ 17 hasn’t been the reason the Bills have not made it to the big dance. Feels like he is always improving. Should he throw the ball to himself, then go play LB too? C’mon man!

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Malazan said:

 

 

We saw them a lot in the 2020 off season. I'm not saying the videos mean anything at all, but he didn't have an issue with them in 2020 so I have my doubts that the bills, his agent, whomever his QB coach is who would be greatly in favor of said things are just being ignored by Allen

 

That's what happens when you acquire a new Pro Bowl WR via trade.

 

Remember all the videos of Tua to Tyreek?

 

We haven't done that since 2020.

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

That's what happens when you acquire a new Pro Bowl WR via trade.

 

Remember all the videos of Tua to Tyreek?

 

We haven't done that since 2020.

Tua posted videos throwing to Berrios and Waddle last off-season.

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Tua posted videos throwing to Berrios and Waddle last off-season.

Similarly Sky Moore and other KC receivers are there with Mahomes as well. Whether these offseason extra work help is debatable.
 

What’s funny is the length some fans go to defend Allen when it really isn’t necessary. It’s ok if Allen doesn’t want to do this. He’s always among the stat leaders during the season so it’s all good. 
 

Edit:

Slight advantage I see with Mahomes’ camp is working with draft prospects. I think Brock Bowers is there and might be others. 

Edited April 5 by 90sBills

[78thealltimegreat]

Man what a thread that’s still going on I guess since the odds are pretty high that they’ll be cutting Tyler bass and his 20 million dollar contract next off season but Josh needs to post videos of him kicking just to make some people feel better.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!

 

 

Ok, y’all beat me up for 21 pages and then go quiet. 
 

I accept all forms of apologies. 😂 

 

I do love all my fellow Bills fans! We ride together!

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!

 

 

 

Has there been even a whisper of resentment towards Josh Allen other than from Diggs?

 

And I will stress the word whisper as Diggs has never said anything negative about Allen in public. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them spends every February and March tweeting cryptic ***** intended to stir up drama. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them skipped voluntary OTAs in 2023 and had the head coach "very concerned". 

 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Ok, y’all beat me up for 21 pages and then go quiet. 
 

I accept all forms of apologies. 😂 

 

I do love all my fellow Bills fans! We ride together!

 

Simmer down, Shorty.  Please explain why you think we should all take the generic "Cover1" account as insider gospel on the Bills?

 

I don't want to diss of the work those guys do breaking down film and talking Bills, but they don't even get inside the locker room.

[78thealltimegreat]

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

Simmer down, Shorty.  Please explain why you think we should all take the generic "Cover1" account as insider gospel on the Bills?

 

I don't want to diss of the work those guys do breaking down film and talking Bills, but they don't even get inside the locker room.

Ever watch Cover 1 Bills videos they literally blame Allen for everything it’s almost comical. I stopped watching them after they couldn’t stop magnifying how the Eagles overtime loss was completely Allen’s fault. 

[Billy Claude]

36 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Has there been even a whisper of resentment towards Josh Allen other than from Diggs?

 

And I will stress the word whisper as Diggs has never said anything negative about Allen in public. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them spends every February and March tweeting cryptic ***** intended to stir up drama. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them skipped voluntary OTAs in 2023 and had the head coach "very concerned". 

 

 

This isn't a new topic, of course their were whispers.  There were whispers last off season also, where people on this board fell over themselves defending Allen.

 

I myself have no problem with Allen taking a few months off.  I am much more concerned that he doesn't  like to watch film to the point that the other QBs in the room tease him about it and no, the  " teams play me differently excuse" is the kind of BS you expect from your high school kid about why they didn't study.

[Brand J]

23 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

 

This isn't a new topic, of course their were whispers.  There were whispers last off season also, where people on this board fell over themselves defending Allen.

 

I myself have no problem with Allen taking a few months off.  I am much more concerned that he doesn't  like to watch film to the point that the other QBs in the room tease him about it and no, the  " teams play me differently excuse" is the kind of BS you expect from your high school kid about why they didn't study.

I think he fears paralysis by analysis and would much rather try to figure it out in real time. It’s no secret why he averages nearly 3 seconds to throw the ball, he’s not always sure where he’s going with it presnap. But like others have said, even if Josh isn’t obsessive about football to the point he lives in the film and weight room, he still has played well enough in the playoffs for the team to win it all. It’s those around him that have let him down. Where would he be if he put in all that extra work? Conventional wisdom says he’d be even better, but he seems to know what’s best for his process, so it’s not necessarily a given that he’d be absolutely better. 

[Billy Claude]

34 minutes ago, Brand J said:

I think he fears paralysis by analysis and would much rather try to figure it out in real time. It’s no secret why he averages nearly 3 seconds to throw the ball, he’s not always sure where he’s going with it presnap. But like others have said, even if Josh isn’t obsessive about football to the point he lives in the film and weight room, he still has played well enough in the playoffs for the team to win it all. It’s those around him that have let him down. Where would he be if he put in all that extra work? Conventional wisdom says he’d be even better, but he seems to know what’s best for his process, so it’s not necessarily a given that he’d be absolutely better. 

 

I feel the "paralysis by analysis" is just an excuse.  Similarly to the "I would get psyched out if I study too much".   There are students who study too much but none of them are the ones who study too much are the ones who worry that they would get psyched out by it.

 

To me, the fact that Allen throws very few interceptions in the playoffs is an indication of what he can be when he is well prepared.   You can't be at the top of your game all the time but you can be more consistent.   Last season there were two or three times where DBs specificly said that they baited Allen into throwing interceptions.   This should not happen (certainly not more than once) if you are prepared as well as you should be.

 

 

[junior]

1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:

 

This isn't a new topic, of course their were whispers.  There were whispers last off season also, where people on this board fell over themselves defending Allen.

 

I myself have no problem with Allen taking a few months off.  I am much more concerned that he doesn't  like to watch film to the point that the other QBs in the room tease him about it and no, the  " teams play me differently excuse" is the kind of BS you expect from your high school kid about why they didn't study.

 

Where did you see that? 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:

 

This isn't a new topic, of course their were whispers.  There were whispers last off season also, where people on this board fell over themselves defending Allen.

 

I myself have no problem with Allen taking a few months off.  I am much more concerned that he doesn't  like to watch film to the point that the other QBs in the room tease him about it and no, the  " teams play me differently excuse" is the kind of BS you expect from your high school kid about why they didn't study.

 

Can you provide a link to a source for these "whispers" from a player or coach on the Bills?

 

I've yet to see one myself, but always willing to look at new data points. 

 

I couldn't care less what random analysts post on twitter with regards to Josh's offseason preparation when they have as much first hand knowledge as I do (exactly none). 

 

[Billy Claude]

47 minutes ago, junior said:

 

Where did you see that? 

 

 

Last off-season there was a very similar thread after a "story" from Jason Whitlock about the Diggs-Allen relationship.  I understand that Jason Whitlock is not very reliable and I am certainly not saying Whitlock was correct but it definitely counts as a whisper.  We had essentially the same thread last off-season and that didn't come out of a vacuum.

 

As stated upthread,  I don't begrudge him taking a few months off and having a little fun to recover mind and body. I am much more concerned about  how little film he watched which was confirmed on the McAfee show.   McAfee asked Allen about it, which  means that Allen not watching much film is a well known fact around the NFL. There was also a story that the backup QBs (Case Keenum and Matt Barkley) used to tease Allen about how little flim he watches. These would also count as whispers.

 

Before people come back with but he explains that "I don't watch a lot of film because teams play me differently",  IMHO, that is a pure BS excuse. 

 

Edited April 6 by Billy Claude

[BananaB]

Hopefully all this talk about him needing Diggs lights a fire in his belly

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!

 

 

Then Diggs go and misses all OTAs. 😂 So ***** stupid

[BullBuchanan]

3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Has there been even a whisper of resentment towards Josh Allen other than from Diggs?

 

And I will stress the word whisper as Diggs has never said anything negative about Allen in public. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them spends every February and March tweeting cryptic ***** intended to stir up drama. 

 

Of those 2 guys only 1 of them skipped voluntary OTAs in 2023 and had the head coach "very concerned". 

 

Of those two guys, only one of them spends that time golfing.

[90sBills]

6 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

 

Last off-season there was a very similar thread after a "story" from Jason Whitlock about the Diggs-Allen relationship.  I understand that Jason Whitlock is not very reliable and I am certainly not saying Whitlock was correct but it definitely counts as a whisper.  We had essentially the same thread last off-season and that didn't come out of a vacuum.

 

As stated upthread,  I don't begrudge him taking a few months off and having a little fun to recover mind and body. I am much more concerned about  how little film he watched which was confirmed on the McAfee show.   McAfee asked Allen about it, which  means that Allen not watching much film is a well known fact around the NFL. There was also a story that the backup QBs (Case Keenum and Matt Barkley) used to tease Allen about how little flim he watches. These would also count as whispers.

 

Before people come back with but he explains that "I don't watch a lot of film because teams play me differently",  IMHO, that is a pure BS excuse. 

 

I’m not sure if the watching film part is true but there seems to be a lot of smoke about it since last season. What’s clearly accurate is his deficiencies in processing reads and game situational awareness. In short the mental part of being an elite qb. Hoping that he recognizes that and is doing everything he can to improve.