BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Minimal cap saving of around 1.25m on a cut is now out. Good news is it seems like anyone worrying that Matt Haack was anything but a Camp Leg probably no longer needs to worry. 1 2 1 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 20 Posted March 20 It may come down to who is the better holder. 1 1 Quote
buffblue Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: It may come down to who is the better holder. I hope not. It would be ridiculous if they keep Haack purely for Bass because he stinks as a punter compared to Martin. Bass o matic just needs to get it together. 1 4 Quote
BuffBillsForLife Posted March 20 Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: It may come down to who is the better holder. The Bills will be the first team in league history to dedicate a spot on the 53 to a dedicated placeholder for kicks. Quote
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Just now, BuffBillsForLife said: The Bills will be the first team in league history to dedicate a spot on the 53 to a dedicated placeholder for kicks. And if a team were ever to do it, it would be this one. 3 1 1 1 Quote
WMDman Posted March 20 Posted March 20 17 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: And if a team were ever to do it, it would be this one. After we kept a KOS for a whole season with Rex I wouldn’t be shocked 1 1 Quote
The Helmet of Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) Maybe I'm biased, but I absolutely despise Martin. That play in the WC game where he got hurt last year (PICKING UP HIS HAND WARMER!!!!) before running after the player who recovered the fumble from the blocked punt was one of the worst plays I've seen since the infamous butt fumble. He should have got a lot more criticism for that embarrassing play. He should be run out of town. It also cost us a lot in the KC game since he wasn't 100% Martin is clearly not an athlete. But worse than that, I'm not sure he knows how to stretch properly. A punter should be the most well-stretched player on the field. Has he never run a sprint before? Bean has screwed up the punting situation massively. Years of Brian Moorman led me to believe that it's not that hard to get a solid athletic Punter. Moorman was small AF but he was also a really great athlete. Did he ever get hurt during his long tenure? I don't know what Sam Martin is. I'd say he's a bum. Kick his ass to the curb. Edited March 20 by MarkKelso'sHelmet 3 1 3 4 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Maybe I'm biased, but I absolutely despise Martin. That play in the WC game where he got hurt last year (PICKING UP HIS HAND WARMER!!!!) before running after the player who recovered the fumble from the blocked punt was one of the worst plays I've seen since the infamous butt fumble. He should have got a lot more criticism for that embarrassing play. He should be run out of town. It also cost us a lot in the KC game since he wasn't 100% Martin is clearly not an athlete. But worse than that, I'm not sure he knows how to stretch properly. A punter should be the most well-stretched player on the field. Has he never run a sprint before? Bean has screwed up the punting situation massively. Years of Brian Moorman led me to believe that it's not that hard to get a solid athletic Punter. Moorman was small AF but he was also a really great athlete. Did he ever get hurt during his long tenure? I don't know what Sam Martin is. I'd say he's a bum. Kick his ass to the curb. One of my biggest takeaways from that fiasco was, how bad was Haack punting in practice that you let Martin punt injured? AND why did you then bring Haack back after the playoffs? Edited March 20 by PetermansRedemption 3 4 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: One of my biggest takeaways from that fiasco was, how bad was Haack punting in practice that you let Martin punt injured? AND why did you then bring Haack back after the playoffs? Had the exact same thought. Watching him limp around and kick lame ducks, I remember thinking "man, Haack must have been shanking literally everything in practice for this to make any sense". 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 20 Posted March 20 46 minutes ago, buffblue said: I hope not. It would be ridiculous if they keep Haack purely for Bass because he stinks as a punter compared to Martin. Bass o matic just needs to get it together. That's kind of like saying on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the worst, Haack is a 2 and Martin is a 3 and it's not a log scale either. All I remember last season was all the complaints about what a poor punter Martin was. Quote
Saxum Posted March 20 Posted March 20 18 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Maybe I'm biased, but I absolutely despise Martin. That play in the WC game where he got hurt last year (PICKING UP HIS HAND WARMER!!!!) before running after the player who recovered the fumble from the blocked punt was one of the worst plays I've seen since the infamous butt fumble. He should have got a lot more criticism for that embarrassing play. He should be run out of town. It also cost us a lot in the KC game since he wasn't 100% Martin is clearly not an athlete. But worse than that, I'm not sure he knows how to stretch properly. A punter should be the most well-stretched player on the field. Has he never run a sprint before? Bean has screwed up the punting situation massively. Years of Brian Moorman led me to believe that it's not that hard to get a solid athletic Punter. Moorman was small AF but he was also a really great athlete. Did he ever get hurt during his long tenure? I don't know what Sam Martin is. I'd say he's a bum. Kick his ass to the curb. Bills should bring Moorman as a part-time coach - he was an athlete not just a punter. 1 1 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted March 20 Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: That's kind of like saying on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the worst, Haack is a 2 and Martin is a 3 and it's not a log scale either. All I remember last season was all the complaints about what a poor punter Martin was. Is this true prior to the hammy? Perhaps I've just forgotten. Quote
Saxum Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Complaints are like dung holes almost everyone has one and most stink. Bills Punter Sam Martin Wins AFC Special Teams Player of the Month https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-sam-martin-afc-special-teams-player-of-the-month#:~:text=Bills punter Sam Martin was named the AFC,punter to earn the accolade since November 2006. He got an award in December of 2023 and then she got injured running on a football field chasing after a player making a play after a block. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, buffblue said: I hope not. It would be ridiculous if they keep Haack purely for Bass because he stinks as a punter compared to Martin. Bass o matic just needs to get it together. Tell Bass to grow up and make his damn kicks. He doesn't get his self appointed holder. What's really sad in all this is both Martin & Haack are mediocre punters. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 15 hours ago, WMDman said: After we kept a KOS for a whole season with Rex I wouldn’t be shocked There's about five or six teams that have kept a kickoff specialist in recent years even if for short stints ... The Patriots had two kickers active versus US 2 seasons ago No team keeps a holding specialist They are not even comparable 14 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why did we sign Haack???? Because you need extra legs throughout mini camp and training camp sometimes An NFL punter only has x amount of good punts in his leg every year... So somebody else punting or kicking off still helps returners and keeps a leg fresher A boxer can't fight 20 times in a year... You can overextend kicking leg so you at least want somebody in MC or TC usually so returners can get practice Even if it's a udfa punter so your returners gets more reps Edited March 20 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote
The Helmet of Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Punching Bag said: Complaints are like dung holes almost everyone has one and most stink. Bills Punter Sam Martin Wins AFC Special Teams Player of the Month https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-sam-martin-afc-special-teams-player-of-the-month#:~:text=Bills punter Sam Martin was named the AFC,punter to earn the accolade since November 2006. He got an award in December of 2023 and then she got injured running on a football field chasing after a player making a play after a block. You forgot the part where he stopped to pick up his handwarmer! He needed that before making the tackle. 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Is this another ***** punter thread? My god. It's the offseason and it's an important position. Why wouldn't there be? 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: In NFL punter only has x amount of good punts in his leg every year... A boxer can't fight 20 times in a year... You can overextend kicking leg so you at least want somebody in camp usually so returners can get practice How much do you think Haack will understand he's getting paid despite not being able to make the team? Quote
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