Jon in Pasadena Posted March 18 Posted March 18 3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: it moved a little At your age, that's really about the best you can hope for. 🤷♂️ 5 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted March 18 Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I see shades of Chad Johnson. Pretty high praise either way. Chad could take the big hits. Think Ray Lewis. Not sure about Franklin. Quote
glazeduck Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I think A- Antonio Brown (seems quite a bit more mentally stable, however 😀) fits pretty well. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Ideally we manage to pull Thomas Jr / Legette / AD Mitchell in the 1st. Then if we still have pick 60, move up for him Lol...I can pretty much guarantee that we are not taking a WR in the first and then trading up from 60 to get another. You do realize we just signed Samuel for 3 years right? Unless this all about your crusade to trade Diggs before the draft...also something not happening. 2 1 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I'm 5'9 and have bigger hands than Troy Franklin (9 inch span versus 8 5/8). Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 2 hours ago, section122 said: Normally I am all about trading down and accruing more capital. This year I thought when they got a 4th instead of a 3rd that I would certainly again love the idea. The reality though is it gets a little dangerous. The first real trade partner that could give a 3rd back would be Wash at 36 and the pick would be #100. That puts Baltimore, KC, Carolina, and NE/Arizona (depending on who picks MHJ) that could potentially all draft a wr. Missing out on guys just for pick 100 doesn't seem worth it. Moving back to 40 with Wash means also getting 78 but giving up a 5th rounder (no big deal) but also adding the Chargers and Tenn who could also grab a wr. Basically the cupboard could go from full to bare real quick. I think the best option is to hang tight and grab their favorite WR at 28. Although I think they are eyeing Coleman as he is a Kelvin Benjamin comp and I just have that feeling. I prefer others but am bracing for it lol. I don't think Beane would do a significant trade back and can see him including another one of our Day 3 picks to try and get the 3rd rounder without moving back too far. There are days I feel like Beane is gonna be aggressive and go get someone like Thomas (or Odunze if he falls far enough between a QB run and something insane like Worthy going ahead of him) in the late teens to early 20's...then moments I see him staying put at 28...and then other moments where a small trade back comes into play. This far out its hard to get a good read on the situation, but all 3 are equally viable options as we sit here today. 1 Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 19 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, glazeduck said: I think A- Antonio Brown (seems quite a bit more mentally stable, however 😀) fits pretty well. I only read the first page of this thread. Went to YouTube and watched a Franklin highlight reel, and I came here to post that he reminds me so much of Antonio Brown. 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 He was sick (as in unhealthy) at the combine which led to his bad performance. At his pro day he was back up 8 pounds, to 186. He has height and speed and if the bills think he’s worth #28 I’m in. 2 2 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted March 19 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, DeltaDigital said: You take this kid at 28. all effin day. Agreed unless Brian Thomas is there or they really think they can get the most out of AD Mitchell’s potential Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 19 Posted March 19 I've been saying right along that I like Cooper DeJean and if he somehow fell to the Bills I'm ok with taking him at 28. Then Joel Klatt posted his updated mock and has DeJean falling to us and the Bills selecting him at 28... and then closes the round with the Chiefs taking Troy Franklin at 32. I had such an instinctual reaction of disgust from actually hearing it that I think it's changed my mind. Gimme Franklin at 28. I'm also concerned the Chiefs jump us once again and nab the WR we want, so I hope Beane is ready to move. 3 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted March 19 Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Agreed unless Brian Thomas is there or they really think they can get the most out of AD Mitchell’s potential Franklin is a larger faster jalen waddel. SOLD. 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: I'm 5'9 and have bigger hands than Troy Franklin (9 inch span versus 8 5/8). Has he had drop problems in college though? If he has, that would be a big red flag with how hard Josh throws Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 12 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: I see Justin Jefferson-like skills in those clips. Pickens dropped because of character concerns not separation ability. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/george-pickens/32005049-4357-6156-653f-e3c2b6d1b9bc https://steelersdepot.com/2023/05/scouting-report-the-pros-and-cons-of-wr-george-pickens/ There were character concerns too Edited March 19 by Solomon Grundy Quote
HappyDays Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I've been saying right along that I like Cooper DeJean and if he somehow fell to the Bills I'm ok with taking him at 28. Then Joel Klatt posted his updated mock and has DeJean falling to us and the Bills selecting him at 28... and then closes the round with the Chiefs taking Troy Franklin at 32. I had such an instinctual reaction of disgust from actually hearing it that I think it's changed my mind. Gimme Franklin at 28. I'm also concerned the Chiefs jump us once again and nab the WR we want, so I hope Beane is ready to move. There really is no excuse not to take a WR with our 1st pick. I'll be viscerally angry if Beane flubs it. I don't even mind if KC jumps us. There will be multiple 1st round WR talents available at #28. 2 2 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 19 Posted March 19 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol...I can pretty much guarantee that we are not taking a WR in the first and then trading up from 60 to get another. You do realize we just signed Samuel for 3 years right? Unless this all about your crusade to trade Diggs before the draft...also something not happening. I wish we would. Lock up our #1 and #2 WR’s for the future near entire prime of Josh’s career. Especially when a mid second round WR this draft would likely go much higher in future years. 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 19 Posted March 19 16 hours ago, Jon in Pasadena said: At your age, that's really about the best you can hope for. 🤷♂️ 3 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Did he update his testing at his pro day or just weigh? Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 11 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I only read the first page of this thread. Went to YouTube and watched a Franklin highlight reel, and I came here to post that he reminds me so much of Antonio Brown. Everyone’s highlights are good. Quote
NewEra Posted March 19 Posted March 19 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: There really is no excuse not to take a WR with our 1st pick. I'll be viscerally angry if Beane flubs it. I don't even mind if KC jumps us. There will be multiple 1st round WR talents available at #28. There is one great excuse/reason. If a player they have rated much higher than the highest rated WR falls to them, it’s a valid excuse, especially if that player is a pass rusher. There’s a chance that 5,6,7 WRs are off the board when we pick. If Thomas goes in the teens and Mitchell shortly after, teams could be more apt to trade up ahead of us because everyone knows we’re targeting WR. If we select Keon Coleman over Latu, I’d have to question whether or not Beane has a clue. If we took Legette or Franklin over Latu, I wouldn’t be furious but I’d think that they bypassed the better player at another position of need. The excuse/reason is really only valid if players we had rated very high, fall further than expected. Lots can depend on how the draft falls. Quote
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