Trump​ ❤️ Tariffs

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

Liar. 

So your list of agreements signed by your calculations is? Oh yes...the  USMCA. Oh yes, wait, he violated that himself, even though he signed the agreement, so it no longer exists. 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Here comes the Trump Administration see-saw effect again.

Paul Krugman on how - even if not intentional - it gives a huge advantage to the economic oligarchs:

The content of his remarks aside, what was Bessent even doing at this event? Senior government officials aren’t supposed to be helping investment banks entertain their clients.

First — and why aren’t more people saying this? — what the hell was the Treasury secretary doing giving a closed-door briefing on a significant policy change that hadn’t yet been officially announced? Isn’t that a setup for large-scale insider trading? Indeed, attendees at that conference surely made market bets before Bessent’s remarks became public.

And since when are major policy announcements by government officials made off the record to closed private-sector meetings? One even wonders whether Bessent was announcing policy or making it: Did Trump back him up only after the fact?

 

Bessent's remarks were kinda sorta private and kinda sorta public. But his suggestion that the China tariffs were unsustainable again moved markets, and the JP Morgan Chase folks who invited him got that info at least a minute or two ahead of anyone else. Do you think they traded on it? If you don't think that, as the old timers used to say, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

[US Egg]

[Joe Ferguson forever]

32 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

He won't be making 30k. It will be a unionized slob making more like 75k to sell you a TV that is 4x as much. The entire argument is to shift the playing field to the uneducated, underqualified, generally lower academically performing population in the US. They're Americas new socialist party. The dumb, white, disenfranchised. 

At its core, this has always been a class war.  Both sides need to understand that a strong middle class is and has been the key to our success.  But times change.  We can't compete making TVs, sneakers and iPhones.  Our lane is innovation.  Go after the Chinese on patents and intellectual property.  Don't go after Harvard and the others who produce the innovations..  And don't believe a conman who cares as much for the working man as snakes do.

[Mikie2times]

37 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

At its core, this has always been a class war.  Both sides need to understand that a strong middle class is and has been the key to our success.  But times change.  We can't compete making TVs, sneakers and iPhones.  Our lane is innovation.  Go after the Chinese on patents and intellectual property.  Don't go after Harvard and the others who produce the innovations..  And don't believe a conman who cares as much for the working man as snakes do.

Agree, both sides largely agree with the class war and have similar anger about the upper ____ %. I think both parties are in bed with the wrong people. Our process for funding elections basically guarantees that to be the case. Politicians are indebted to the corporations that got them elected. Neither have represented most of us for a very long time. I wish THAT is something all of us could get together on. Instead we are fragmented on largely social issues.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Agree, both sides largely agree with the class war and have similar anger about the upper ____ %. I think both parties are in bed with the wrong people. Our process for funding elections basically guarantees that to be the case. Politicians are indebted to the corporations that got them elected. Neither have represented most of us for a very long time. I wish THAT is something all of us could get together on. Instead we are fragmented on largely social issues.  

election funding reform is consistently fought against by the R's.  Not to say D's don't take corporate money that buys influence but they generally support reform.  citizens united was decided in favor of corporation by a conservative SCOTUS including Roberts and Scalia.  It's telling the McConnell cheered the decision and Obama hated it.  With the current SCOTUS, things are not going to change.  And the maga's keep voting in candidates who oppose election reform.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

 

As far as the 1%, much the same is true.  D's generally want them taxed more, R's less.  If the maga's are angry at them, they aren't voting that way.

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

It will be a unionized slob making more like 75k

Guess the air is much nicer up there where you are when you think your ***** doesnt stink.

 

Also guess you prefer that “slob” sit home and milk off the public teat.

Edited 19 hours ago by US Egg

[Coffeesforclosers]

9 minutes ago, US Egg said:

 Guess the air is much nicer up there where you are when you think your ***** doesnt stink.

 

*Looks down at his Union card*

 

Life's pretty simple when you never worry about retirement, medical bills, or keeping up with the Jones.

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, US Egg said:

 Guess the air is much nicer up there where you are when you think your ***** doesnt stink.

I worked from nothing to get where I'm at. So I don't feel that way at all, but I never cried about how the game was rigged hoping the rules would change. You know the rules. If you don't get your degree you're looking at about a sub 5% chance of ever clearing six figures. Maybe less than that.

 

If you want to go into the trade? You know what the average pay is, not good. You know what your job stability looks like, not good either. We are responsible for the path we take and the outcomes of that path. So tell me why our society should change the rules, have everybody else who played by them pay more, for those that failed the game? 

[US Egg]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I worked from nothing to get where I'm at. So I don't feel that way at all, but I never cried about how the game was rigged hoping the rules would change. You know the rules. If you don't get your degree you're looking at about a sub 5% chance of ever clearing six figures. Maybe less than that.

 

If you want to go into the trade? You know what the average pay is, not good. You know what your job stability looks like, not good either. We are responsible for the path we take and the outcomes of that path. So tell me why our society should change the rules, have everybody else who played by them pay more, for those that failed the game? 

Yeah and no doubt then you feel the same goes for the foreigners who come here with nothing.

[Mikie2times]

Just now, US Egg said:

Yeah and no doubt then you feel the same goes for the foreigners who come here with nothing.

This has nothing to do with immigration. But if you want to grab those farming jobs the illegals like, you can bring them all back. I'm sure the unions would love it. 

[US Egg]

12 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

*Looks down at his Union card*

 

Life's pretty simple when you never worry about retirement, medical bills, or keeping up with the Jones.

Let’s go bust up those union sucking cops and teachers. 

[Coffeesforclosers]

Just now, US Egg said:

Let’s go bust up those union sucking cops and teachers. 

Get back on the Hamster Wheel, Poors!

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I worked from nothing to get where I'm at. So I don't feel that way at all, but I never cried about how the game was rigged hoping the rules would change. You know the rules. If you don't get your degree you're looking at about a sub 5% chance of ever clearing six figures. Maybe less than that.

 

If you want to go into the trade? You know what the average pay is, not good. You know what your job stability looks like, not good either. We are responsible for the path we take and the outcomes of that path. So tell me why our society should change the rules, have everybody else who played by them pay more, for those that failed the game? 

congrats.  the American dream lives on.  It seems true that doing better than your parents did financially is becoming more difficult.  Perhaps we've passed our peak.  But that alone is not reason to change the rules of the game which have worked extremely well since after WW2.

 

btw, I'm pro union.  without them, workers get crushed.

Edited 19 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, US Egg said:

Let’s go bust up those union sucking cops and teachers. 

Police unions are one of the reasons it’s impossible to get rid of the bad apples. 

[US Egg]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Police unions are one of the reasons it’s impossible to get rid of the bad apples. 

…..and the ones in the Democratic supporting teachers.

[Albwan]

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...the only group of people that hates America more than China.

[Mikie2times]

12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

congrats.  the American dream lives on.  It seems true that doing better than your parents did financially is becoming more difficult.  Perhaps we've passed our peak.  But that alone is not reason to change the rules of the game which have worked extremely well since after WW2.

 

btw, I'm pro union.  without them, workers get crushed.

 

So much good and so much bad and it will probably always be that way. They serve a purpose when they don't get overbearing. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Mikie2times

[4th&long]

Looks like Trump chickened out again. The China men own him. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

This craziness should be the target of both sides ire. Instead, trump appoints multiple billionaires to some of the highest offices. 
https://www.wsj.com/economy/1-trillion-richest-families-wealth-increase-bc13874a