Niagara Bill Posted Friday at 08:25 PM Posted Friday at 08:25 PM 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Dude, nobody cares about Canada. They are the little brother we don't really need. Do you drink and post everyday? You care about nobody...we get it, so don't expect respect from anyone. 1
4th&long Posted Friday at 08:30 PM Posted Friday at 08:30 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Dude, nobody cares about Canada. They are the little brother we don't really need. Do you drink and post everyday? White trash moron trump supporter. I would say you post and drink but you are just an idiot. Edited Friday at 08:30 PM by 4th&long
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted Friday at 11:16 PM Posted Friday at 11:16 PM 2 hours ago, 4th&long said: White trash moron trump supporter. I would say you post and drink but you are just an idiot. I'm intrigued, what makes me white trash? I cut my mullet years ago.
Andy1 Posted Saturday at 02:45 AM Posted Saturday at 02:45 AM I’m still waiting for a rational explanation for the need for the Trump tariff taxes. No respected economist endorses the Trump tax as a cure for the American economy. Hell, I don’t even know what the problem is aside from some inflation in America which has also happened in every other developed nation. If there was any sound economic reasoning for the tariffs, any rational sane president would explain to the country why tariffs are necessary and why America will benefit from them. They would be implemented in a planned manner to minimize financial losses to American businesses. There would also be a “Buy Made in America” PR campaign to raise support for the policy. Instead, Trump lies to Americans that other nations will be paying the tax money to America, like his “Mexico will pay for the wall” fantasy. There is no logic to how they are implemented. They are On, Off, On again, Off, maybe On again in the future…He gives no or very little advance notice to the American businesses affected. Clearly he is not doing this in a way to help businesses adapt or minimize the negative financial impact to our economy. So why the hell is he doing it? No one in the government can give a rational answer yet the Republican Party seems all for it since no one objects. Ostensibly, the administration claims the tariffs on products from Mexico and Canada are necessary until those evil countries stop the illegal fentanyl and migrants crossing the north and south borders. Illegal immigration is down 94% from a year ago so that doesn’t make sense. Over 90% of the fentanyl enters the country through legal border crossings with the vast majority being carried by American citizens. Why should all Americans pay thousands $ more each year to live because some stupid people choose to do drugs? Even if the most gullible person believes the immigrant/drugs BS, it doesn’t explain why tariffs are needed on products coming from other countries. Here is the bogus White House fact sheet explaining why tariffs are needed: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/ There is no reason on this document to rebuild American manufacturing industry. There are no government incentives for businesses to build manufacturing plants in America. So it’s not about that. So why the hell is he doing it? Here are the options I’ve got so far: 1. This point is from Frankish Reich: Tank the economy, make a great recession and take the opportunity to use the bogus Emergency powers. I guess this theory would be to cause maximum stress and pain for Americans, divide the nation more than ever, get people marching in the streets, then he can claim the powers he so desires. Plausible. 2. Trump is a demented psychopath who enjoys using his power to inflict pain on others. He wants and gets off on other billionaires coming to him to beg for tariff relief for their business. He likes having the leaders of other nations calling him, asking for a policy change. His ego is happy when he sees others in pain. 3. He is trying to break and poison our relationships with our traditional trading partners and allies. His expansionist plan to take Canada and Greenland are consistent with this plan. Like WTF, who can be angry with Canada? He is preparing to leave NATO. America vs the world! America alone, or with our great ally Russia is best. These are all the desires of daddy Putin whom he is always trying to please. 4. Tariffs are a source of entertainment for him and his feeble brain. He loves the publicity and attention he gets from it all. He just wants to see what happens if he goes all in on tariffs, just because he can. Basically like a mad experiment on the economy. 5. Tariffs are a means he can use to extort millions of $$ from businesses owners for his personal enrichment. Corruption to the max. 6. He wants Americans to pay more to live so he can pay for his future tax cut for his billionaire friends. This is often speculated but I don’t think Trump cares about paying for anything. He never has cared about paying his bills. 7. The MAGA dream: Tariffs are bargaining chips the master deal maker will use to create a better world than any of us can imagine. 8. #s 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 above. That’s all I got. If you have a rational reason, voice it. 1 2
JFKjr Posted Saturday at 03:52 PM Posted Saturday at 03:52 PM 13 hours ago, Andy1 said: I’m still waiting for a rational explanation for the need for the Trump tariff taxes. No respected economist endorses the Trump tax as a cure for the American economy. Hell, I don’t even know what the problem is aside from some inflation in America which has also happened in every other developed nation. It's a negotiating tool. I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal."
4th&long Posted Saturday at 03:56 PM Posted Saturday at 03:56 PM 3 minutes ago, JFKjr said: It's a negotiating tool. I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal." You mean the art of going bankrupt?
JFKjr Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM 25 minutes ago, 4th&long said: You mean the art of going bankrupt? If it keeps you up at night so be it. Glad I have YOU to worry about it.
The Frankish Reich Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM Author Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM 1 hour ago, JFKjr said: It's a negotiating tool. I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal." OK, so tariffs are used as leverage to exact concessions from our trade partner. Makes sense so far, although the legality of using tariffs for that purpose under the guise of national security sounds a little suspect ... ... but tariffs are also supposed to replace other taxes - like income tax revenue, right? I mean, Trump said it himself when he coined the term "External Revenue Service" (a/k/a the United States Customs Service). So if his tariffs as bargaining ploy work, his tariffs as revenue generators fail. So it's pretty much bs. Or he really doesn't understand the zero sum nature of these two conflicting purposes. Or both. You are more adept and grammar/spelling/usage than at economics/game theory.
dgrochester55 Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM (edited) Dems: We hate how everything is going, it is a threat to democracy! It is making things tough for the people Rational person: What are your plans in doing something about it? Dems: Continuing the plan under Biden, four years of Whining, bitching, gaslighting, frivolous abuse of the court system......and oh yeah, we added the smashing of Teslas this time around. Rational person: You see, this is why you lost last time, and why your approval is still at an all time low despite what is happening with Tariffs, the Ukraine and DOGE. Dems: But Trump is hiiiiiiitleeeeeeeeeeer!!!!! Edited Saturday at 05:43 PM by dgrochester55
Doc Brown Posted Saturday at 06:06 PM Posted Saturday at 06:06 PM 5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: About 90% of Americans use the standard deduction and don't itemize their taxes. A few hundred a month you can write off won't move the needle as the standard deduction will still be the better option. So, this really only positively impacts the well off.
Niagara Bill Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM Posted Saturday at 07:24 PM 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: It's a negotiating tool. I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal." Art of the Deal, Like the Apprentice, pure fiction 1 2
SectionC3 Posted yesterday at 11:26 AM Posted yesterday at 11:26 AM (edited) 17 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: Dems: We hate how everything is going, it is a threat to democracy! It is making things tough for the people Rational person: What are your plans in doing something about it? Dems: Continuing the plan under Biden, four years of Whining, bitching, gaslighting, frivolous abuse of the court system......and oh yeah, we added the smashing of Teslas this time around. Rational person: You see, this is why you lost last time, and why your approval is still at an all time low despite what is happening with Tariffs, the Ukraine and DOGE. Dems: But Trump is hiiiiiiitleeeeeeeeeeer!!!!! You have a lot of time on your hands. Get a job. And get off of welfare. 19 hours ago, JFKjr said: It's a negotiating tool. I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal." How many chapters are dedicated to emerging from chapters 7/11? Edited yesterday at 11:27 AM by SectionC3
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted yesterday at 12:52 PM Posted yesterday at 12:52 PM No one in the WH even knows what the clown will do on "Liberation Day" It's just chaos with a crazy, ignorant man in charge https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14551217/White-House-officials-quietly-freaking-Trump-upcoming-Liberation-Day-tariff-announcement.html 1
JFKjr Posted yesterday at 03:01 PM Posted yesterday at 03:01 PM 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: How many chapters are dedicated to emerging from chapters 7/11? Ironically that's exactly what Trump's going to need to do with the U.S. We've been driving toward insolvency for decades, and there is no amount of tinkering with the system that's going to fix that. I expect him to usher in an entirely new system. But, carry on with the Libnut interpretations of Economics 101.
B-Man Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Who ? Trump’s Auto Tariffs Just Got a Huge Endorsement Matt Margolis United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain, who backed Kamala Harris in last year’s election, just delivered the most significant endorsement yet of President Donald Trump’s tariffs on foreign-made automobiles. Defying the left’s narrative, Fain called the tariffs a necessary tool to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. Speaking on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Fain agreed with Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro’s assessment that American auto plants are operating at only 60% capacity, which leaves plenty of room to ramp up production domestically. “He’s spot on,” Fain said, citing the example of Stellantis, which recently laid off 2,000 workers in Warren, Mich., after shifting Ram truck production to Mexico. “They could shift that work back in very short order and be producing Ram trucks right back there and put those people back to work.” https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/03/31/this-is-the-most-significant-endorsement-of-trumps-auto-tariffs-yet-n4938440
Big Blitz Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago But why oh why do these tariffs exist on us? Good thing the Old Media, like Old Europe, is dead.
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