The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:47 PM, JaCrispy said: The Left wing and msm are forcing me to defend Trump again, on this issue… Just like Charlottesville and the “very fine people” hoax, the Left wing is being purposely deceptive, and taking Trump’s quote out of context, to push another false narrative… They know it’s a lie, but they know their audience is a low info demographic…. Come on guys…Do better! 👍 Expand Go back and read where I picked it apart from a pure textual perspective. Yes, some people are deliberately taking it out of context. But Trump's own explanation makes no sense, so clearly he was getting at some other kind of "bloodbath," which may or may not be a literal bloodbath.
wnyguy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:49 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Go back and read where I picked it apart from a pure textual perspective. Yes, some people are deliberately taking it out of context. But Trump's own explanation makes no sense, so clearly he was getting at some other kind of "bloodbath," which may or may not be a literal bloodbath. Expand Scared? 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:51 PM, wnyguy said: Scared? Expand Sounds almost as if you want a literal bloodbath. You just may fit Trump's "low class" insurrectionist profile.
wnyguy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:53 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Sounds almost as if you want a literal bloodbath. You just may fit Trump's "low class" insurrectionist profile. Expand I'm just asking if you fear there might be repercussions for the ongoing destruction of this country.
Doc Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 6:56 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Like I’m going to believe anything you write…at least you aren’t in jail for your actions Jan 6…at least I don’t think so Expand Yeah, we know one of us is a proven liar and it ain't me, so... On 3/18/2024 at 7:07 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Funny how that goes. The Dems hear Trump say "come to DC on January 6 to Stop The Steal, it's gonna be wild." And they stupidly expect something like a bunch of low-class loons will storm the Capitol or something. Alarmists. Expand It's funny how people hear what they want to hear...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:58 PM, wnyguy said: I'm just asking if you fear there might be repercussions for the ongoing destruction of this country. Expand I don't even know what "ongoing destruction of this country" is supposed to mean. I take it it is something akin to American Carnage, that 2016 slasher film that ran out of steam after the first 20 minutes.
wnyguy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:02 PM, The Frankish Reich said: I don't even know what "ongoing destruction of this country" is supposed to mean. I take it it is something akin to American Carnage, that 2016 slasher film that ran out of steam after the first 20 minutes. Expand You don't know what it means? I'm sorry, I thought you lived in the US. My mistake.
JaCrispy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 7:49 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Go back and read where I picked it apart from a pure textual perspective. Yes, some people are deliberately taking it out of context. But Trump's own explanation makes no sense, so clearly he was getting at some other kind of "bloodbath," which may or may not be a literal bloodbath. Expand When I heard the speech, I interpreted it to be that “bloodbath” was a metaphor for something terrible happening to the country if Biden got re-elected and was able to continue his economic policy with China, regarding EV’s… And honestly, it’s really grade level comprehension we are talking about here…This isn’t rocket science, like the Left is making it out to be… People acting like he’s referring to an actual physical confrontation are just making themselves look rather foolish and simple minded…😉 1 1
wnyguy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:08 PM, JaCrispy said: When I heard the speech, I interpreted it to be that “bloodbath” was a metaphor for something terrible happening to the country if Biden got re-elected and was able to continue his economic policy with China, regarding EV’s… And honestly, it’s really grade level comprehension we are talking about here…This isn’t rocket science, like the Left is making it out to be… People acting like he’s referring to an actual physical confrontation are just making themselves look rather foolish and simple minded…😉 Expand Yeah but it's not as cool as making it out like Trump wants an actual bloodbath. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:08 PM, JaCrispy said: And honestly, it’s really grade level comprehension we are talking about here Expand No, it's grade level verbal expression. If Putin said something like this we'd say, "you clever old dog, insinuating attack if you don't get your way." If Trump says it, his "people" ignore it and say yeah, he wasn't exactly clear about what he meant, but we know it's nothing sinister ...
wnyguy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:14 PM, The Frankish Reich said: No, it's grade level verbal expression. If Putin said something like this we'd say, "you clever old dog, insinuating attack if you don't get your way." If Trump says it, his "people" ignore it and say yeah, he wasn't exactly clear about what he meant, but we know it's nothing sinister ... Expand Use your head, man.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:16 PM, wnyguy said: Use your head, man. Expand OK, well imagine if Biden said it ... it would be dismissed as yet another example of his senility. What the hell is he talking about? A question that applies here.
JaCrispy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 (edited) On 3/18/2024 at 8:14 PM, The Frankish Reich said: No, it's grade level verbal expression. If Putin said something like this we'd say, "you clever old dog, insinuating attack if you don't get your way." If Trump says it, his "people" ignore it and say yeah, he wasn't exactly clear about what he meant, but we know it's nothing sinister ... Expand Out of context, one might need more info…when reading or listening to the speech, it is quite clear what he’s referring to, unless people are wishing he meant a literal “bloodbath” so then they could attack him over it- like many are unsuccessfully attempting to do now…😉 Do better…Truth over cultish ideology will set you free…👍 Edited March 18, 2024 by JaCrispy 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:23 PM, JaCrispy said: Out of context, one might need more info…when reading or listening to the speech, it is quite clear what he’s referring to, unless people are wishing he meant a literal “bloodbath” so then they could attack him over it- like many are unsuccessfully attempting to do now…😉 Do better…Truth over cultish ideology will set you free…👍 Expand Do better. Even assuming the best of your candidate's intentions, call him out for his lack of eloquence when he says "if I'm not elected, the damage caused to the auto industry is the least of our concerns; it will be a bloodbath."
BillStime Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Trump is an undisciplined rambler. It's quite amusing to witness the reactions to his statements. After January 6th and his history of fueling support for political violence - it's not surprising for most to interpret his comments considering his notorious speaking style. 1
JaCrispy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:29 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Do better. Even assuming the best of your candidate's intentions, call him out for his lack of eloquence when he says "if I'm not elected, the damage caused to the auto industry is the least of our concerns; it will be a bloodbath." Expand Yeah he sux at speaking…I hate the way he talks… 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:30 PM, BillStime said: Trump is an undisciplined rambler. It's quite amusing to witness the reactions to his statements. After January 6th and his history of fueling support for political violence - it's not surprising for most to interpret his comments considering his notorious speaking style. Expand Couldn't have said it better myself. Now to be fair: I flipped on MSNBC to see what they're saying. They said he called illegal aliens "not human." THAT one isn't a fair characterization. THAT one clearly related to his ongoing rant about MS-13 gangsters supposedly flooding into that country. THAT one is easy. THIS one ("bloodbath") is either a nonsensical rant calling into question this old man's mental status, or it's some attempt to suggest mass civil disorder if he isn't elected.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:36 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Couldn't have said it better myself. Now to be fair: I flipped on MSNBC to see what they're saying. They said he called illegal aliens "not human." THAT one isn't a fair characterization. THAT one clearly related to his ongoing rant about MS-13 gangsters supposedly flooding into that country. THAT one is easy. THIS one ("bloodbath") is either a nonsensical rant calling into question this old man's mental status, or it's some attempt to suggest mass civil disorder if he isn't elected. Expand They know he meant political violence. MAGA is constantly giving the middle finger to normal people. It’s the whole point. They’re having us on here. WNYer was almost forthright about it when he asked if u are scared. He’s chomping at the bit.
BillStime Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/18/2024 at 8:36 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Couldn't have said it better myself. Now to be fair: I flipped on MSNBC to see what they're saying. They said he called illegal aliens "not human." THAT one isn't a fair characterization. THAT one clearly related to his ongoing rant about MS-13 gangsters supposedly flooding into that country. THAT one is easy. THIS one ("bloodbath") is either a nonsensical rant calling into question this old man's mental status, or it's some attempt to suggest mass civil disorder if he isn't elected. Expand The guy also seems to have early-stage dementia - he speaks in cursive - malfunctions often - clearly went off script - knew he said something dramatic he shouldn't have - and tried to realign with the initial topic. We have seen this pattern way too many times. And WTF does Trump mean by this comment: "I don't think you're going to have another election in this country, if we don't win this election... certainly not an election that's meaningful.
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