wnyguy Posted March 21 Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hah. I've always been kind of a centrist on the whole COVID response thing. It's fair to say that Biden (and a lot of governors) kept distancing/masking/remote schooling/whatever rules in place far too long. But it's also fair to say that Trump's initial response to COVID was comically bad, ending in the perfect comeuppance: he gets COVID himself and has to be airlifted to Bethesda. I remember Trump being called racist for wanting to ban travel from China, remember that? No one knew what the implications would be from this man made virus in the beginning and throughout it's span. We were fed lies from everyone, even the ones we thought we could trust. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 21 Posted March 21 32 minutes ago, wnyguy said: I remember Trump being called racist for wanting to ban travel from China, remember that? No one knew what the implications would be from this man made virus in the beginning and throughout it's span. We were fed lies from everyone, even the ones we thought we could trust. I'm not denying that re: travel from China. All I'm saying is that Trump's overall score for his pre-election handling of the pandemic: D And the only reason he doesn't fail is Operation Warp Speed, which he seems uncomfortable about touting. 1
wnyguy Posted March 21 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: I'm not denying that re: travel from China. All I'm saying is that Trump's overall score for his pre-election handling of the pandemic: D And the only reason he doesn't fail is Operation Warp Speed, which he seems uncomfortable about touting. Maybe he suspected that the vaccine was a huge problem?
Doc Posted March 21 Posted March 21 4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hah. I've always been kind of a centrist on the whole COVID response thing. It's fair to say that Biden (and a lot of governors) kept distancing/masking/remote schooling/whatever rules in place far too long. But it's also fair to say that Trump's initial response to COVID was comically bad, ending in the perfect comeuppance: he gets COVID himself and has to be airlifted to Bethesda. Joke got Wuhan virus twice despite "following the science," but he was vaccinated and there were treatments. Unlike when Trump got it. As for the comically bad initial response, what makes you think Hilly's would have been any different? I'd figure it would be the same as Joke's and several waves of variants came in under him. The difference (again) being vaccines and treatments available that weren't under Trump.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 21 Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, Doc said: As for the comically bad initial response, what makes you think Hilly's would have been any different? Well maybe the response would've been just as bad. Who knows. But not as comically bad. That was a Trump Special.
Pokebball Posted March 21 Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: Are you better off? Schools were closed, kiddos were stuck at home to roam through kitchen cabinets 1
BillStime Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Schools were closed, kiddos were stuck at home to roam through kitchen cabinets Yeah, that's it.
Doc Posted March 21 Posted March 21 31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well maybe the response would've been just as bad. Who knows. But not as comically bad. That was a Trump Special. It would have been just as bad. Possibly even worse.
BillStime Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 19 days later: US recorded 556,044 Coronavirus cases and 22,073 deaths while millions of Americans celebrate Easter 1
JaCrispy Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Worse off now…my dollars don’t go as far, and my government has decided to put foreigners before American citizens, for potential future votes…👎 1 1
Big Blitz Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/21/2024 at 5:43 PM, BillStime said: Are you better off? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Bill was CC’d by the Democrats to get the latest ridiculous talking points. Posting it here like CCP sheep that told us to do what the CCP says and where masks and stay 6 feet apart because science. Hahahahahaha what freaking losers. 1
4th&long Posted March 24 Posted March 24 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Worse off now…my dollars don’t go as far, and my government has decided to put foreigners before American citizens, for potential future votes…👎 I find this hard to believe that people are actually worse off? Personally I am way better and I have a family of 6 too but stuff for. I don’t base my life off the cost of groceries! I don’t base my life off of people crossing a border! My kids are doing great, they are healthy. My wife is healthy and happy! We have everything we need. Are people really this ***** shallow? Never mind it’s obvious that they are. People aren’t happy unless they are bitching about something. if your life is in the toilet because you spend $25 more per week on groceries you have a lot more problems than spending $25 more per week on groceries. Don’t let these dumb ass politicians tell you you are worse off today, even if you don’t like Biden and vote Republican, I don’t care. Enough of the stupidity! Did you sleep on the street last night? Did you go to bed hungry? No, then stop crying and help someone who might have!! 1
JaCrispy Posted March 24 Posted March 24 22 minutes ago, 4th&long said: I find this hard to believe that people are actually worse off? Personally I am way better and I have a family of 6 too but stuff for. I don’t base my life off the cost of groceries! I don’t base my life off of people crossing a border! My kids are doing great, they are healthy. My wife is healthy and happy! We have everything we need. Are people really this ***** shallow? Never mind it’s obvious that they are. People aren’t happy unless they are bitching about something. if your life is in the toilet because you spend $25 more per week on groceries you have a lot more problems than spending $25 more per week on groceries. Don’t let these dumb ass politicians tell you you are worse off today, even if you don’t like Biden and vote Republican, I don’t care. Enough of the stupidity! Did you sleep on the street last night? Did you go to bed hungry? No, then stop crying and help someone who might have!! I am happy if you are so well off that you don’t notice the effects of inflation the passed 3 years- or that the effects of massive illegal immigration is causing on inflation- paid for by our tax dollars… You saying people are only spending $25 more on groceries, shows that you may not have a full grasp of how much prices have gone up… People today, are literally paying DOUBLE, for groceries, as well as other consumer goods, than what they paid under Trump…And for lower and working class Americans, that means EVERYTHING!
4th&long Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I am happy if you are so well off that you don’t notice the effects of inflation the passed 3 years- or that the effects of massive illegal immigration is causing on inflation- paid for by our tax dollars… You saying people are only spending $25 more on groceries, shows that you may not have a full grasp of how much prices have gone up… People today, are literally paying DOUBLE, for groceries, as well as other consumer goods, than what they paid under Trump…And for lower and working class Americans, that means EVERYTHING! I call BS. I do our shopping. It has not doubled . They have gone up no doubt and it suck’s. I’m sure your wages have gone up to help. My brother likes to cry about prices. He calls me one day to tell me he just got a job for $32 an hour plus ot and benefits on top of it. Nice raise for him. Every day since or everyone I talk to him all he does is B word about prices, no mention of how good he has it working in this country or the fact that they have way too much money in their savings account. Prices going up sucks. but get sick or suffer a serious injury. Have a major health issue or death in your family. Then come talk to me about being “worse off”. Edited March 24 by 4th&long
4th&long Posted March 24 Posted March 24 And I’m not well off. I haven’t gone on vacation in 15 years. I just don’t base weather I’m better off than 4 years ago based on some idiot politician of what makes one better off.
sherpa Posted March 24 Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Prices going up sucks. but get stock out suffer a serious injury. Have a major health issue or death in your family. I'm not sure what this sentence is trying to convey, but that's another issue. Retirees, or people on fixed income might have a different view re inflation of the past couple years. I don't blame any politician for all of it, but they all share in the blame for crazy fiscal policy. 1
BillStime Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: I'm not sure what this sentence is trying to convey, but that's another issue. Retirees, or people on fixed income might have a different view re inflation of the past couple years. I don't blame any politician for all of it, but they all share in the blame for crazy fiscal policy. Can you imagine what will happen to these individuals if Republicans regain control and cut programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and ObamaCare, which assist people with fixed incomes?
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