BillStime Posted April 2 Author Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Doc said: As you said he was instrumental in getting them out and everyone, especially his supporters, knew that. Whereas Kamala actually said she wouldn't trust the vaccine. You know most Americans do not trust Trump, right? All he did was trash our country, our government, our allies, divide and invoke fear and hate throughout his four years. He cultivated zero credibility outside his gullible cult. Trump's handling of the lead-up to the virus was questionable, given that he didn't build any credibility. He dismissed its seriousness initially, knowing it was bad news. He then promoted unproven solutions like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, potentially causing more harm than good. Furthermore, he endorsed America's Frontline Doctors, who make outlandish claims about witches and demons. As a supposed doctor, would you consider taking any advice from any politician, let alone Donald Trump?
BillStime Posted April 2 Author Posted April 2 4 years ago today: Disaster in motion: 3.4 million travelers poured into US as coronavirus pandemic erupted "It is difficult to estimate the portion of travelers coming from China to the U.S. with COVID-19, but fair to speculate that a large number might have been infected at the time of travel."
Doc Posted April 2 Posted April 2 3 hours ago, BillStime said: You know most Americans do not trust Trump, right? All he did was trash our country, our government, our allies, divide and invoke fear and hate throughout his four years. He cultivated zero credibility outside his gullible cult. Trump's handling of the lead-up to the virus was questionable, given that he didn't build any credibility. He dismissed its seriousness initially, knowing it was bad news. He then promoted unproven solutions like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, potentially causing more harm than good. Furthermore, he endorsed America's Frontline Doctors, who make outlandish claims about witches and demons. As a supposed doctor, would you consider taking any advice from any politician, let alone Donald Trump? Trump didn't push ivermectin. That was more Joe Rogan, who is more of a Democrat. And many doctors were talking about HCQ as a treatment for Wuhan virus before Trump, which is why Trump started promoting it. Fauci even mentioned it as a possible treatment for coronaviridae years prior. You see, there was no treatment for Wuhan virus at all at the time and it was a safe drug and we were trying to save lives. Meanwhile the left did all they could to make it sound like a dangerous drug that Trump invented because he owned stock in it and thus it couldn't be taken under any circumstances. We all know the reason why. And for the love of god stop talking about Trump's "credibility" or how he didn't take it seriously. Biden did a worse job considering he had as many deaths in his first year despite vaccines and treatments. 1
BillStime Posted April 2 Author Posted April 2 32 minutes ago, Doc said: Trump didn't push ivermectin. That was more Joe Rogan, who is more of a Democrat. And many doctors were talking about HCQ as a treatment for Wuhan virus before Trump, which is why Trump started promoting it. Fauci even mentioned it as a possible treatment for coronaviridae years prior. You see, there was no treatment for Wuhan virus at all at the time and it was a safe drug and we were trying to save lives. Meanwhile the left did all they could to make it sound like a dangerous drug that Trump invented because he owned stock in it and thus it couldn't be taken under any circumstances. We all know the reason why. blah blah blah - there was enough people in the right-wing ecosystem pushing conspiracies and unproven drugs, including Trump and his staff. 32 minutes ago, Doc said: And for the love of god stop talking about Trump's "credibility" or how he didn't take it seriously. LMAO - It really bothers you that Trump continually ignored his intelligence, even after learning about the contagious nature of COVID. Despite this knowledge, he still misled everyone by asserting that it would just disappear. Trump started with - "disappear within days, sometimes within one month, and now “at some point”. "By JULY 2020 - the US has seen the world’s worst death toll with some 130,000 American lives lost and 2.74 million infected." “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope”. Coronavirus: All the times Trump has baselessly claimed Covid-19 would disappear Trump Predicted ‘Covid, Covid, Covid’ Would End After The Election. It's Worse Than Ever Six months of Trump's Covid denials: ‘It'll go away … It’s fading’ ‘One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear’: Trump on Covid-19
Westside Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, BillStime said: blah blah blah - there was enough people in the right-wing ecosystem pushing conspiracies and unproven drugs, including Trump and his staff. LMAO - It really bothers you that Trump continually ignored his intelligence, even after learning about the contagious nature of COVID. Despite this knowledge, he still misled everyone by asserting that it would just disappear. Trump started with - "disappear within days, sometimes within one month, and now “at some point”. "By JULY 2020 - the US has seen the world’s worst death toll with some 130,000 American lives lost and 2.74 million infected." “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope”. Coronavirus: All the times Trump has baselessly claimed Covid-19 would disappear Trump Predicted ‘Covid, Covid, Covid’ Would End After The Election. It's Worse Than Ever Six months of Trump's Covid denials: ‘It'll go away … It’s fading’ ‘One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear’: Trump on Covid-19 How do you explain Kamala telling everyone not to trust the vaccine because Trump was the president? 2
BillStime Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 52 minutes ago, Westside said: How do you explain Kamala telling everyone not to trust the vaccine because Trump was the president? Do you think Trump cultivated ANY credibility with the American people with the way he mismanaged the COVID response? When he wasn’t wishing it away and praising China, his desperation led him to jump on every unproven remedy, praising Americas Front Line Doctors and all of this misinformation was repeated throughout the right wing echo chamber. Regarding Kamala: Senator Kamala Harris said during Wednesday's vice presidential debate that she will only follow instructions from health experts on whether to take a coronavirus vaccine, not President Trump. I would never take medical advice from anyone who is not an MD.
Westside Posted April 3 Posted April 3 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you think Trump cultivated ANY credibility with the American people with the way he mismanaged the COVID response? When he wasn’t wishing it away and praising China, his desperation led him to jump on every unproven remedy, praising Americas Front Line Doctors and all of this misinformation was repeated throughout the right wing echo chamber. Regarding Kamala: Senator Kamala Harris said during Wednesday's vice presidential debate that she will only follow instructions from health experts on whether to take a coronavirus vaccine, not President Trump. I would never take medical advice from anyone who is not an MD. The left has flip flopped so many times from the time Trump announced the vaccine for covid and when biden took control, the lefts opinion on the covid vaccine depended on who the president was at the moment. You know that's true, but you're unable or unwilling to tell the truth. 1
BillStime Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 9 minutes ago, Westside said: The left has flip flopped so many times from the time Trump announced the vaccine for covid and when biden took control, the lefts opinion on the covid vaccine depended on who the president was at the moment. You know that's true, but you're unable or unwilling to tell the truth. Oh ok. Who was managing COVID from the start? Who was flip flopping on when it would go away - what to take - what to do- it was a colossal mess and a lot of people won’t be here to vote for Trump in 2024.
Westside Posted April 3 Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh ok. Who was managing COVID from the start? Who was flip flopping on when it would go away - what to take - what to do- it was a colossal mess and a lot of people won’t be here to vote for Trump in 2024. It was a mess from the beginning. The left fought tooth and nail anything Trump tried to do. When he banned travel to and from china, it was the left who called him a racist. Did you forget that? Kamala and other politicians warning people to not take the Trump vaccine. But you already know this. 2
BillStime Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, Westside said: The left fought tooth and nail anything Trump tried to do. Source? 19 minutes ago, Westside said: When he banned travel to and from china, it was the left who called him a racist. The guy was less than forthcoming about the severity of the VIRUS. Again, he cultivated ZERO creditability with every other thing he did... Makes sense people question when he didn't share JACK about the Virus. Regarding the "China" travel ban (that wasn't) - Trump "banned" travel between the US and China in Jan/Feb 2020 - you know what he did on Jan 31, 2020? He banned travel from predominantly African nations as well - which pissed off democrats. Trump has made cracking down on immigration a focus of his 2020 re-election campaign, and his travel ban policy is popular with Republican supporters – but experts say that it will harm US efforts to roll back the growing influence of Russia and China in Africa. Pelosi: Trump’s expanded travel ban is ‘outrageous, un-American’ and threatens ‘rule of law’ “The Trump Administration’s expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law. The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy,” Sorry, right wing media spun it in such a way to purposely confuse and incite you... it happens.
Doc Posted April 3 Posted April 3 19 hours ago, BillStime said: blah blah blah - there was enough people in the right-wing ecosystem pushing conspiracies and unproven drugs, including Trump and his staff. LMAO - It really bothers you that Trump continually ignored his intelligence, even after learning about the contagious nature of COVID. Despite this knowledge, he still misled everyone by asserting that it would just disappear. Trump started with - "disappear within days, sometimes within one month, and now “at some point”. "By JULY 2020 - the US has seen the world’s worst death toll with some 130,000 American lives lost and 2.74 million infected." “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope”. Coronavirus: All the times Trump has baselessly claimed Covid-19 would disappear Trump Predicted ‘Covid, Covid, Covid’ Would End After The Election. It's Worse Than Ever Six months of Trump's Covid denials: ‘It'll go away … It’s fading’ ‘One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear’: Trump on Covid-19 No the impetus for HCQ came from doctors who weren't pushing ay political agenda and were trying to find something to fight a virus with no known treatments at the time. The left trying to claim it was a dangerous drug so that no one used it told me all I needed to know. And no, I wasn't bothered by it. I knew that Hilly would have done no better, if not worse. And I was proven right by Joke's first year in Office. 1
Doc Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Erythromycin and HCQ are/were dangerous. LMAO! Aaron Stupar strikes again. 1
sleeby Posted April 5 Posted April 5 The conservatives were pushing to go herd. Brazil essentially did and filled mass graves - only to see a varient come by less than a year later and reinfect and kill so many more. The GOP was anti medicine and anti science. 1 million Americans died. 1
Pokebball Posted April 5 Posted April 5 8 minutes ago, sleeby said: The conservatives were pushing to go herd. Brazil essentially did and filled mass graves - only to see a varient come by less than a year later and reinfect and kill so many more. The GOP was anti medicine and anti science. 1 million Americans died. Wrong
Irv Posted April 5 Posted April 5 34 minutes ago, sleeby said: The conservatives were pushing to go herd. Brazil essentially did and filled mass graves - only to see a varient come by less than a year later and reinfect and kill so many more. The GOP was anti medicine and anti science. 1 million Americans died. Lie
Doc Posted April 5 Posted April 5 39 minutes ago, sleeby said: The conservatives were pushing to go herd. Brazil essentially did and filled mass graves - only to see a varient come by less than a year later and reinfect and kill so many more. The GOP was anti medicine and anti science. 1 million Americans died. As many people died under Biden's first year as Trump's last year despite there being vaccines and treatments not available under Trump. Biden not only didn't "shut down the virus," you could argue he did a worse job despite "correcting all the things Trump did wrong."
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